Refuse to give Disney your Finger-print?

[TheDisneyClan]

Unless you have your ID ready, doesn't refusing the finger scan to show them your ID so they can verify that you own the ticket take a bit longer so the Cast Member can give you the green light to go in the park? If you do the finger scan correct it should take 5-10 seconds for the gate to open, so I don't see how your saving time by not doing it.

We have our ID's ready each time. But only one CM ever actually asked to see it. They generally just push some button and let us through.

 

[theresak]

O.k., everybody, no need to rag on the OP, it is a valid point...I'm sure the government has only the best intentions for accumulating the fingerprints of the entire population; oh yeah, next thing you know they'll be eavesdropping on our conversations which I'm sure no one here has a problem with!

If the government wants to hear about teething and first steps - have at it! We did the scan, and big deal. Our 10 year old was required to as well, since he has an "adult" ticket - which is waaaay more infuriating.

I don't care what they want it for, it's Disney - it can't possibly be for nefarious reasons!!

 

[jctwizzer]

O.k., everybody, no need to rag on the OP, it is a valid point...

-R

Well, so far no one has explained why it's a valid point.....the OP says they were "uncomfortable" after reading some obscure, debatable, academic
clap trap...that did nothing more than fill up some space on a page.

Again.....what;s the big deal... and, specifically, why???

 

[Lisa Hale]

Hmmmm.......I smell a conspiracy!

Just kidding, you have every right not to let them scan if you don't want them to. Same as I have the right to prefer that they do scan. You did say that you don't focus on it while you are in the parks, it's just a preference as you are walking through the gates, like my preference to not carry a bag or anything that needs to be searched, so I don't have to stand in a security line.

Now, remember everyone...I warned that there would be jokes...

Now, I would think it odd if you were wearing camo with palm fronds on them the whole time and trying to blend in with the foliage so that you could fly under the radar (so to speak) and not be coerced into having pics taken on Main Street by those highly-questionable photo pass people (who knows what they use "those" photos for!) Or, if you were concerned that using the fast pass system would compromise your standing as a "good" private citizen (you do know that when you utilize a fast pass machine and enter your park ticket, it's scanning for finger prints, right)! But, not wanting a finger scan to be made that enables the park to keep someone from using a stolen ticket is completely cool with me.

Jokes over - continue reading

Seriously, all in good fun. You're not obsessing, it's just a preference that you hadn't seen noted before. Where would Disney World be today if not for someone being an individual many years ago. It's not something I ever thought about before, so it has created thought & discussion. Cool!

Hmmm.... it's getting late here and I'm feeling silly, can you tell????

 

[TheDisneyClan]

O.k., everybody, no need to rag on the OP, it is a valid point...I'm sure the government has only the best intentions for accumulating the fingerprints of the entire population; oh yeah, next thing you know they'll be eavesdropping on our conversations which I'm sure no one here has a problem with!

Anyways, the "finger scans" at WDW are not fingerprint scanners...a close look at the equipment shows it's not that complex (plus the response time is too quick to check a fingerprint even if it is imbedded on your card). From what was explained awhile back, all that is taken is a measurement of your two fingers and a simple algorithm that calculates the total length and the ratio between your two fingers and comes back with a value, which is then checked against the value imbedded in you card. The information "given" is no more unique than what could be checked by using your height, hair color, etc., already on your driver's lic.

It's far different that given any unique personal information such a fingerprint, but I admit, it is a little uncomfortable.

-R

That is all my point really is. Never would I try and convice anybody not to do it that feels comfortable doing so.

But something about for us seems uncomfortable. There have been hundreds of articles written about it, and since its not mandated we just decline in a very quiet polite way and enter the parks like everybody else.

Seems to have struck a nerve with the some folks. No idea why!

 

[Amy&Dan]

I've honestly never even thought about it. Like the previous poster, I would probably let them have a DNA sample to get inside the park. However, I totally suppost your right to NOT do it.

Why is everyone so quick to be so nasty and mean?

Actually on the disboards scale of nasty and mean, this thread hasn't even made it to that realm yet! I think people are just trying to figure out why the OP has this concern (which he/she has very nicely and honestly answered) and why they either do or don't have the same concern. Thankfully, no name calling, or other nastiness has occured that I can see. Which makes this all a good thing and worthwhile discussion!

 

[I'mNoPrince]

My fingerprints are all over different data basis this one will make no difference.

We have to be fingerprinted to get into many of my accounts. I hate when they do a hard copy as that stuff is hard to get off your fingers.

But your right Disney doesn't instist they recommend for quicker access. I thought you were suppose to sign and show ID when they bypass the Bios.

I would be more concerned with the face reconition they use at most places . Now thats something to put a time stamp on you.

 

[DJ Disney Kid]

That is all my point really is. Never would I try and convice anybody not to do it that feels comfortable doing so.

But something about for us seems uncomfortable. There have been hundreds of articles written about it, and since its not mandated we just decline in a very quiet polite way and enter the parks like everybody else.

Seems to have struck a nerve with the some folks. No idea why!

I think it strikes a nerve because if your going to take issue with something, your expected to have reasons why, and if you can't give reasons, your looked at as just someone causing a fuss for no reason.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

We have our ID's ready each time. But only one CM ever actually asked to see it. They generally just push some button and let us through.

Oh ok then so I can see how that would get you into the parks a bit faster. Although since it is WDW policy for guests to do this, I hope the Cast Members who let you in without your checking ID does not get in trouble.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Since we are AP holders they do know who I am, but like someone else pointed out, if you buy your tickets anywhere OTHER than through a WDTC package then they don't know who you are. On our first trip we bought our park passes from the Disney Store and paid cash for them, so there is no way they could have figured out who those tickets belonged to.

I don't mind them scanning my finger. I also don't mind other guests opting out of the scan. As long as people opting out of the scan aren't in front of me, holding up the line while some newbie CM runs for a manager. That happens way too often with the people who are boggled by the finger scanner!

 

[xyzabc33]

I believe you can refuse to give your fingerprint and you can simply present your ID so that they can check that you are the original ticket holder. I believe that children under a certain age are not subject to this requirement.

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According to CRO, this is true. I asked it about it recently. The CM working the gate is SUPPOSED to ask for your ID if you choose not to do the scan. The OP apparantly has been lucky in getting the CM's they did. Those that did not ask for ID could be reprimanded for not following procedures. Kiddos on the children's tickets (under 10) DO NOT have to scan their fingers.

MY PERSONAL OPINION....The scans are to protect your ticket from being used by someone else. I like this for the fact that I am considering buying an AP and dont want my ticket used by someone else. Comes down to Disney not wanting to lose money on tickets being resold for days left. Plus we had no prob going thru the turnstyles using the finger scans. Took more time manuevering the stroller thru then doing the scan.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

I think it strikes a nerve because if your going to take issue with something, your expected to have reasons why, and if you can't give reasons, your looked at as just someone causing a fuss for no reason.

I have stated the reason the we decline, not that I really need to.

And let me just say for the record... There is a major candidate for President of the United States with one of the two major parties who is on the board of a technology company who developed a microchip that can voluntarily be planted in your head. In fact, they want parents to see the need for this with respect to their children. Moreover, they want parents to have this chip planted in their children. After all this would make finding a missing or abducted child possible in an instant.

Let me just say, I will not be rushing to stand in that line either!! LOL

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I have stated the reason the we decline, not that I really need to.

And let me just say for the record... There is a major candidate for President of the United States with one of the two major parties who is on the board of a technology company who developed a microchip that can voluntarily be planted in your head. In fact, they want parents to see the need for this with respect to their children. Moreover, they want parents to have this chip planted in their children. After all this would make finding a missing or abducted child possible in an instant.

Let me just say, I will not be rushing to stand in that line either!! LOL

I think this Presidental canidate's idea is no where compared to what WDW does with their finger scan, lol.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

According to CRO, this is true. I asked it about it recently. The CM working the gate is SUPPOSED to ask for your ID if you choose not to do the scan. The OP apparantly has been lucky in getting the CM's they did. .

I believe you are correct about the policy. However, it was worded to me that a CM "MAY" ask to see ID if you opt out of the scan.

Since the new scanners were implemented we have entered the parks I would estimate at somewhere around 50 times. One time we had a CM ask for our ID which we always have at the ready,(he also wanted to argue the politics behind the scans as he looked at our ID's, though we did not take the bait to argue and just ignored his prodding..lol) and one other time a CM had to get a Manager becuase she just did not know what to do. Each of the other times, the CM just pushed a button and we walked right through.

 

[happygirl]

Doesn't bother me in the least

 

[Noevo]

I have stated the reason the we decline, not that I really need to.

And let me just say for the record... There is a major candidate for President of the United States with one of the two major parties who is on the board of a technology company who developed a microchip that can voluntarily be planted in your head. In fact, they want parents to see the need for this with respect to their children. Moreover, they want parents to have this chip planted in their children. After all this would make finding a missing or abducted child possible in an instant.

Let me just say, I will not be rushing to stand in that line either!! LOL

this explains a lot. thank you.


i wear size 7 tin foil hat. how about you?

 

[theresak]

this explains a lot. thank you.


i wear size 7 tin foil hat. how about you?

 

[Lisa Hale]

this explains a lot. thank you.


i wear size 7 tin foil hat. how about you?

 

[TheDisneyClan]

this explains a lot. thank you.


i wear size 7 tin foil hat. how about you?

And I feel quite confident that you look quite good in it!

 

[Noevo]

And I feel quite confident that you look quite good in it!

oh, I wouldn't wear it so people could see it. defeats the whole purpose don't ya know.

It's a special occasion thing, like x-files marathons and michael moore documentaries...and don't get me started on that wacky moon landing thing