For those who say there is no off-season, I just have to disagree. Go in June. Then come back in February (President's Day excluded). Then tell me there's no off-season.
We used to go summer time only. The last three years we switched to Feb trips. Wait times are half as long or less. Its not even close.
Not to mention, other than the castle, the list from last refurb season was equally long compared to this year's. This year is not precedent-setting. Castle closure is a bummer, though.
You might have a different perception of what constitutes big crowds vs. what someone else perceives as big crowds. This is why we constantly see conflicting reports about crowd levels on this forum. People have different views and perceptions.
What I said on the previous page was, to the average guest, there is not much of an off-peak season anymore.
(**Even the Cast Members in the parks say there is not much of an off season anymore, or that the windows of time for lower crowds are getting narrow.**)
The average guest in the parks sees crowds, and over the years the previously
less busy times have become more crowded. Disney has added in special events and things to lure people in during those previously less busy times. There are more bodies in the parks now than there used to be during the so-called "slow" times of year, so it doesn't seem like there is much of an off-season anymore -- at least, it's not as significant in terms of reliably low(er) crowds anymore.
But by Disney's standards, figures and numbers, they still see lower attendance during certain times of year (spring and early fall -- basically, whenever it's not summer, a major holiday weekend, the holiday season or spring break), even if it seems crowded to the average guest, so to them it has to still be considered the off season, and the main time frame in which they get a lot of their refurbs done.
It's great if someone is expecting big crowds and then gets to the parks to find out that the crowds are not big. That's awesome! That's what we all hope for!
However, if someone goes in under the impression that the crowds are low, only to get there and find that the crowd level is not one that they personally perceive as low, then it's not a good thing. And this sort of thing happens all the time -- people come back and say, "I heard that it was a slow time and yet it was packed!"