That is exactly what I said to my sister who is an avion lover. Her question was .. have you even been able to fly to Orlando on 25K ? - not me. (granted we fly prime season but I am elite and so close to super I can smell it) .. last trip it was 40K economy and don't even get me started on the complications on that trip... this trip I couldn't find anything less than 50K - I finally called in, super frustrated (not the first time time with AC) and managed to find first class united, not showing on the website for 40K each. However, if I could have booked economy for 35K direct with westjet? In heartbeat...