Questions for mom's of ADHD kiddos

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How did you know that your child was ADHD? How did you find a good doctor? I'm almost positive that DD needs some help. She's in 2nd grade & struggles more and more with staying on task, getting her work done, and being organized. It turns into a constant battle and involves her homework (and incomplete classwork) taking about 3-4 hours each night. After yet another night of fighting, arguing, and tears, I'm ready to throw in the towel. Help please!
 
Make and appointment with a Pediatric Neurologist. They will be able to diagnose ADHD in your child.
 
Both of my boys have been diagnosed ADHD. We had them tested with a phychologist. It is a challenge but knowing is very helpful. There are many books to help parents cope with true ADHD kids. Be careful with going to the pedi as sometimes they will just drug them and not test them or know for sure if they really are. There is medications that help but only if your child is ADHD.. if they aren't the meds have the opposite effect on them. Yes, we medicate our boys BUT the meds they take do not make them zombie kids or any of that kind of thing. It took my boys from D students to strait 100 averages in school! If you ask my boys (10, 13) they don't like it when they dont take their meds! They prefer them as they can focus on fun stuff as well as school stuff. :rotfl:

The behavior test they do usually lasts 3 hours and is really good. I highly suggest contacting a pro and her tested. ADHD is much more common in boys than girls. Also ADHD are more likely to be gifted so thats actually a good thing;)
 
My DS11 has inattentive ADD, and BOY does that first post sound familiar!

We talked with his teachers and his pediatrician first, then we went to a diagnostician to have him tested. The teachers all had to fill out surveys about his habits in class, DH and I had to complete one about how DS was at home, and then DS had to do several tests. After all of the results were compiled we worked with our pediatrician to find a med and dosage that worked. DS only takes meds on school days, and once we found the right med his grades shot up.

He still struggles with organization and homework, but this is his first year of middle school so there are LOTS of changes to adjust to. He also grew over the summer so we have been trying to get his dosage figured out. The dosage he had at the end of last year wasn't making much difference this year.
 

What's the best way to find a good, qualified doctor to diagnose her? I really don't want DD on meds forever, but I also can't imagine living life this way for years to come. If it will help her, then I have to put her needs first. I just want to be certain that I find a doctor that really diagnoses her rather than simply drugs her.


BTW- Thanks for the encouraging words so far. It's really helping my attitude! (Especially since it's now 8 & she's been doing schoolwork since 3 :eek: )
 
My son is ADHD and we had more problems with the hyperactivity/impulsivity than the attention problems. He is very bright, but does have a tough time staying on task. Looking back, he had the signs from a very early age, but we didn't start medicating until he was going into 3rd grade.

Some signs...
Impulsivity... The self control that seems to come so naturally to other kids just isn't there. This is to an extreme, not just a few things here and there. Things like running into the street, pinching another child, getting into your personal space over and over again.

Strange Noises... This was a big one for us, and became more and more obvious as he got older. He would repeat a word or phrase over and over again. It's as if this word is running on a reel in his head and he opens his mouth and the word keeps coming out. Or he would shout out a noise during class--like he had so much extra energy that this was the only way he could get it out of him.

Never sitting still... NEVER! When he was 3 weeks old my friend babysat for him for a few hours and I'll always remember her commenting to me, "I know why he gave you such a rough time (bedrest, early labor)...He NEVER stops moving!" When he was 3 his teacher had him run up and down the halls of the school when she saw the signs coming. He still stands to do his schoolwork.

Hyperfocus... While ADHD do have attention problems, it's not all of the time. What I see is an inability to "shift gears." If he's playing legos or doing a puzzle, he can concentrate so intently that he doesn't even notice what's going on around him. If it's time to stop working on the puzzle or legos--even to do something else that he enjoys--he has a really hard time shifting away from that activity.

Not quite in sync with the other kids...All kids do some things that look like ADHD, but ADHD kids are always just a bit more...well, more. They talk all of the time and have a harder time socially. They aren't necessarily unpopular, but they often do things that irritate the other kids.

Overstimulization increases the symptoms...When my son becomes overstimulated, the above characterisics are multiplied. Even on the meds this can happen. I keep an eye out for the triggers--the big one for him is crowds, also, something exciting happening like a visit from Grandma, a lot of different things going on around him to catch his attention. Hunger also seems to do it.

We finally started medicating in third grade for a couple of reasons. It was obvious that he was more and more "different" from the other kids and it was starting to affect him socially. Also, he would be starting the gifted program and we were concerned about him falling behind. We still have issues with him, as he's on a relatively low dosage of Adderall. The big thing we are working on is self control. We're trying to teach him that he might always have these impulses, he just needs to find a different outlet. We try to keep him active as much as possible too.

One last thing--ADHD kids have the opposite reaction to caffeine as most kids. I asked my doctor about this when I noticed that he actually seemed calmer after drinking a coke and she said it was true. On the days that we don't give him his meds, I allow him to drink a coke (preferably diet) at breakfast or lunch.

Good luck! It's a frustrating road, and medication is not a cure all. It just helps them learn how to handle things. One thing that always stuck with me was something I read on a message board when we were researching ADHD. One mom said that medication turned her child into the kid he was supposed to be--the boy that she always knew he could be. I understand what she meant.
 
Thanks for the tip on the coke Vacation lover!
I don't give meds to my boys on weekends but may try giving them some coke. I don't usually let them drink it as I am a big water fan but I might try it.

Both of my boys are huge hyperfocusers!
 
What's the best way to find a good, qualified doctor to diagnose her? I really don't want DD on meds forever, but I also can't imagine living life this way for years to come. If it will help her, then I have to put her needs first. I just want to be certain that I find a doctor that really diagnoses her rather than simply drugs her.


BTW- Thanks for the encouraging words so far. It's really helping my attitude! (Especially since it's now 8 & she's been doing schoolwork since 3 :eek: )

How is she in school? If her school work is being impacted, and she is falling behind, then you can request an evaluation to be done by the school. They will look at her cognitive functioning (how she learns) and her achievement (what she has learned) as well as doing surveys (or checklists) for ADHD. This will also be useful information to have when you see a doctor.

I've been hearing since my DS now 8 was in pre-school that he "wasn't focused", "couldn't finish work", "talked ALL the time" (well, that really doesn't go away;) ) Kindergarten and 1st grade were nightmares for him. He HATED school, and being a teacher, I was heartbroken by that. In 2nd grade I moved him to the school district where I work and he was evaluated in March of last year. The school psychologists report was so thorough that his pediatrician was comfortable trying medication. It made a HUGE difference!! He made huge improvements in 2nd grade and with the caring of a wonderful teacher, had a very positive year. This year has been fabulous!!! He actually stated that he wished school could be 7 days a week!! Homework can still be an issue, as meds have worn off by then. But we modify the length of his assignments as needed, and he does a lot of his written work on the computer which helps keep him organized and less frustrated.

His pediatrician and I have been in constant communication regarding DS's attention and school reports since he was a toddler. She and I were in agreement that we would not try medication until at least 8 years old. There are so many things a school can do to assist with ADHD whether or not you decide to go the medicaiton route. Make sure that if you do request an evaluation through the school, that you ask that Occupational Therepy testing be included. This will see if there are any sensory issues or fine motor issues that need to be addressed as well.

Good luck with everything. It is such an agonizing thing when our children are struggling!:grouphug:

Kim
 
Our son has add not adha. A little different but still isues. He has had a board to follow for ever. If not he still forgets. Has gotten better he is not 12 in the sixth grade. It has been a bit of a struggle. He started meds this year I kept putting them off but he really should have been on them for fifth. I hated the idea but know we are doing the right thing. He seems to be doing better for certain.

Our pediatrician even had a name for him "precocious" was what he called him at 7 mos.
 
one thing i would suggest before you explore an adhd evaluation is to get allergy, vision and hearing tests done-issues with all 3 can result in the types of problems you've posted. i had all 3 done with ds before we explored adhd which he does have, but in the course of the other tests we did discover a minor milk allergy and very sensitive hearing which when we addressed did eliminate some issues.

of the issues you've raised-have you noticed the situation with the school work in previous grades or just this year? it could simply be an issue of the work becoming more demanding/longer in duration and she's just not built speed up yet. with ds we have an issue (separate from his adhd) that makes doing some school work harder for him, and the longer we spend on trying to do it the more frustration and inattentive he becomes. our solution (last year implemented) was to negotiate with his teacher that he had a set amount of time he had to spend on homework each night and had to work to accomplish as much (correctly done) as possible within that timeframe. as time went on he was able to build up his speed such that he was able to complete his homework nightly within a reasonable amount of time. another thing to look at is weather you can identify if there is a pattern of type of subject or instructional means that tie the subjects she's not completing together. i had a co-worker whose daughter was not completing school work each day and it was a nightmare trying to get her to do it at home. come to find out she had an issue with the way she was best able to learn. in her case she could have read the instructions over and over but unless it was discussed with her out loud it just did'nt make sense to her (so when the teacher handed out papers to the kids with no verbal instructions, or she was given a written instruction it was much harder to complete-if she simply read it outloud to herself or someone else read it outloud she did fine).

i'll add-not all adhd kids have an opposite reaction to caffeine. my own as well as many others i know have the same reaction any other person would have. my own son however, does have the opposite reaction to some perscription and otc meds that generaly sedate people-give my son benadryl or a codeine based cough syrup and he's bouncing off the walls. this is one of the reasons we have to take extreeme care with dental and medical work that require sedation. we've been fortunate to find pediatric dentists who are trained in administering nitris to adhd kids-if it's not done correctly, instead of a relaxed patient they have one climbing the walls:scared1: when ds had to be totaly sedated for an mri the pediatric anesthitist took great care in reviewing his medical records to determine the right combo of drugs.

i would suggest locating a pediatric neurologist. they can rule out organic issues before begining an adhd evaluation (which should involve evaluations going to teachers, care providers, any adults a child interactes with in a variety of situations in order to get an accurate picture of weather the symptoms are constant or limited to just those situations where a situational trigger-like schoolwork-is occuring).

best of luck.
 
Not all children with add or adhd end up on medicine or the type of medicine you would expect. I work in a school where 80% of children have some form of adhd or add and my ds 6 has add. He did not do well on several typical add meds and is now on a low dose of anxiety meds but his success in school so far this year is due to resource room.( He was not sent here because he is behind he is actually ahead in some things) and only struggles with some writing issues. He just has problems staying on task all day in a big classroom and needs a little more direction.
 
Not all children with add or adhd end up on medicine or the type of medicine you would expect. I work in a school where 80% of children have some form of adhd or add and my ds 6 has add. He did not do well on several typical add meds and is now on a low dose of anxiety meds but his success in school so far this year is due to resource room.( He was not sent here because he is behind he is actually ahead in some things) and only struggles with some writing issues. He just has problems staying on task all day in a big classroom and needs a little more direction.

Man, I wish we had something like this in our district. DS12 really needs to STAY ON TASK. It is a constant battle between him and I. He goes a week with A's and the next week it is F's and missed assignments. I sometimes feel that it will be a miracle if this kids graduates high school. I pray that someday he will succeed in something and it will spark the enthusiasm needed to continue.
 
Petrymom- I wish you all the best with your son and encourage you to look into resourse room or a tutor in school for him. The school I work at is for children with all types of mental health issues some are on meds and some aren't but they have not been successful anywhere if they are sent here. Have you looked into sensory planning I have found a lot of success with this for my son. Sometimes everything is just so over whelming for him and the smaller setting really helps. My ds goes to school in MI and I work in OH and have dealt with Special education in both states sometimes I hate to say it but is knowing the right people and them getting to know your child. I have had pretty good experiences with ds's staff (no interactions can ever be perfect) but it helped that I knew his teacher last year before he entered and she fought for what she thought was right for him with everyone in the school (even me when we disagreed). Im sorry for the ramble I have another son that has cp and a beautiful dd and I tend to worry over the 10 kids in my classroom alot. I wish you all the best and encourage you to continue asking questions of other parent and teachers in your area
 
I figured something was up with my daughter when she was in the 4th grade. Each day after achool, I had to reteach everything. Then, she'd study, know it, and then not do well on the test. She struggled.When I broached her teacher, I was told that she sits quietly in class. My Dh andIi had her tested anyway, she did have ADD. When I told her teacher the diagnosis, she said that her day was filled with having to correct the "bad" students, so my daughter slipped throught the cracks-nice.
After she started her meds, she was a new child. She finally began seeing the results of her studying. She became an honor roll student.
 
Personally, I wouldn't try to confirm ADHD, specifically. I would ask your child's school to evaluate her for services. See what they come up with.
 
Just my two cents, but I would start by having a long talk with her teacher. Ask her what her thoughts are on your daughter's behavior and grades. While she can't diagnose any problems, she can guide you in the right direction. It is usually very obvious in a classroom full of children the difference between the ones that truly need help and the ones that are just behavior problems. Good luck!
 


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