Question for Moderators? Re: Catholic Posts

[ericamanda01]

I don't think your being too sensative however if the topic is something that might offend you then I wouldn't read it. There will always be something on these boards that will offend someone at one time or another. So my suggestion is to just ignore it.

 

[CEDmom]

It's been all over the news recently that when choosing a new Pope, the conclave is going to be asking itself questions about Catholic dogma, like the issue of priests being able to marry.

So how is talking about it here Catholic bashing?

I was going to say this as well. The church has been all over the news for over a week with the Pope's death and funeral. It's only natural that people would discuss various facets of the church. BTW, for what it's worth I was baptised Catholic, raised Episcopalian, married a practicing Catholic and am now raising DD Catholic (cafeteria style definitely ).

 

[bananiem]

Well, since I am catholic and responded "yes" to that post I guess I don't consider it bashing either. I think it could have just been a discussion, possibly a debate. But it turns ugly when mis-informed posters bring up pedophilia.

 

[snoopy]

Point taken Palm tree and i usually don't.........
But you don't have to open the priest thread to see it and some of the others got their "jist" across in the title also...........

I guess I don't understand what is offensive about asking whether or not a priest should be allowed to marry?! Its not like that discussion hasn't happened a million times in the past, probably among people in your parish. Its a question many Catholics have, and probably has some bearing on why so few men become Priests.

Why specifically do you find it offensive? Because its currently not done, it shouldn't be discussed? Just curious.

 

[jellymanoffspring]

I just went to my JCC's Jewish food festival, and I did ask about the ham issue, LOL! A very nice doctor who volunteers there explained the reasons behind the ham and kosher thing. I guess as long as it can be discussed in an open, and respectful manner it should be okay, right?

Yes , respectful discussion and questioning...but if "recovering Jews" were posing the questions would they be asking from a respectful place?

My Niece is Orthodox so I have learned a lot about "Keeping Kosher"....

 

[beattyfamily]

I think some of the responses have been a bit harsh. I think the OP is questioning if the moderators allow all religions to be bashed or just the Catholic religion. There is some major bashing going on and the thread is still open...but I guess it is only offensive to a few people...so maybe that's why it is still open. I would like to see what the modeatros think though

I agree with this. The threads have been about issues people disagree with and/or don't understand and/or want changed but also about if the Pope will go to Heaven, about practicing Catholics being 'brainwashed' etc...I definitely took offense to some of the comments in a few threads of the threads going. For some reason some people seem to enjoy picking apart the Catholic Church and it seems to be ok for them to do so.

 

[Lisa F]

If I posted a question on this board.... "Should rabbis eat ham?" Would that be taken down as offensive?

I enjoy the varied topics on this board but I am getting a little tired of posts which could be seen as Catholic bashing... "should priests be married?"

Terms such as church "brainwashing" Recovering Catholic" if these were used about other religions or ethnic groups would they remain on the site?

I am just curious ..am I being too sensitive?

I think you are being too sensitive. This kind of dialogue has been going on in Judaism forever. One of the things that makes reform Judaism different from other kinds is that people who are reform do not keep kosher (or they did not for a very long time). The feeling was that basically the laws about keeping kosher were there for health and hygiene reasons that no longer apply. Within the reform movement there are people who have reexamined that point of view and have come up with other reasons that keeping kosher has a spiritual meaning to them besides the practical reasons that no longer apply. So to answer your question, should Rabbis eat ham, I would say it depends on what kind of Rabbi they are and what their reasons are for making the decisions they make.

IMO, in every religion there are a few "fundamentals" that can't be denied, but anything beyond that are just details that are open to discussion/interpretation. At some point you have to make the choice as to whether it is possible to reform your religion from within, whether you can live with some things you don't agree with in order to be part of a cultural community that you identify with, or whether you might want to find a religious affiliation that suits you better... but IMO if you're not even THINKING about these issues (even if you come to the conclusion that you agree 100% with what the leaders say) then you're not doing your religion justice.

 

[KathyTX]

If there's bashing or personal attacking going on, report it using the "report to a moderator" button. Otherwise, you can't assume that the moderators even know about a problem.

I have seen no reports of problems on any of these threads. Not one.

Asking questions or challenging ideas isn't generally offensive; attacking people because of their beliefs is. We don't tolerate personal attacks or arguing, but we probably won't halt a conversation because one poster doesn't agree with what's being said.

 

[palmtreegirl]

Point taken Palm tree and i usually don't.........
But you don't have to open the priest thread to see it and some of the others got their "jist" across in the title also...........

If you feel a thread is offensive then hit the report it to moderators warning sign in the bottom of the post. They will then decide if it should stay or go. Maybe reporting it will help you feel better?

 

[Tigger&Belle]

..sex is ok...I mean talking about it

Glad you clarified that...

T&B

 

[WilmaBud]

Well, I'm Catholic, and I'm finding a lot of these threads offensive. I find the term "recovering Catholic" extemely offensive. You only have to "recover" from something harmful. I also think some of these questions aren't asked with an innocent intent. The question itself may seem harmless enough (ie. "Should priest be allowed to marry?"), but sooner or later, it degrades into bashing of the church (ie. "...if priest could marry, there'd be less pedophilia...." or "...there's a higher percentage of priests who are child molestors than there are in the general population....").

I think if any other religion were bashed like that or if someone's sexual preference were bashed like that (which, come to think of it, it was, with someone pretty much equating homosexuality with pedophia ), the thread would be closed.

I don't think those of us who are offended are being oversensitive at all. I've never reported a post to a moderator because that's not my nature. But I'm enjoying this place less and less lately. The religious and political bashing is getting really old.

 

[chadfromdallas]

Well, I'm Catholic, and I'm finding a lot of these threads offensive. I find the term "recovering Catholic" extemely offensive. You only have to "recover" from something harmful.

To some, maybe Catholicism was harmful

 

[BuckNaked]

To some, maybe Catholicism was harmful

Then why would they want to continue to dwell on it?

 

[Papa Deuce]

Well, I'm Catholic, and I'm finding a lot of these threads offensive. I find the term "recovering Catholic" extemely offensive. You only have to "recover" from something harmful. I also think some of these questions aren't asked with an innocent intent. The question itself may seem harmless enough (ie. "Should priest be allowed to marry?"), but sooner or later, it degrades into bashing of the church (ie. "...if priest could marry, there'd be less pedophilia...." or "...there's a higher percentage of priests who are child molestors than there are in the general population....").

I think if any other religion were bashed like that or if someone's sexual preference were bashed like that (which, come to think of it, it was, with someone pretty much equating homosexuality with pedophia ), the thread would be closed.

I don't think those of us who are offended are being oversensitive at all. I've never reported a post to a moderator because that's not my nature. But I'm enjoying this place less and less lately. The religious and political bashing is getting really old.

It will pass shortly. The Pope's death has just opened thing up for discussion. Soon, it will be business as usual.

 

[jellymanoffspring]

To some, maybe Catholicism was harmful

I would say that they were harmed by someone misusing the Catholic religion ..... not by Catholocism itself........
One poster told of her parent mishandling a situation and forcing her to recieve a Sacrament....how is that the fault of the Catholic Faith?

 

[jellymanoffspring]

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It will pass shortly. The Pope's death has just opened thing up for discussion. Soon, it will be business as usual.

I think it is sad that the Passing of a Faithful, Man of Peace should turn into such ugly discussions.......

 

[BuckNaked]

I would say that they were harmed by someone misusing the Catholic religion ..... not by Catholocism itself........
One poster told of her parent mishandling a situation and forcing her to recieve a Sacrament....how is that the fault of the Catholic Faith?

Her parents were brainwashed, remember?

 

[chadfromdallas]

One poster told of her parent mishandling a situation and forcing her to recieve a Sacrament....how is that the fault of the Catholic Faith?

Its in direct relation...

 

[6_Time_Momma]

Well, I'm Catholic, and I'm finding a lot of these threads offensive. I find the term "recovering Catholic" extemely offensive. You only have to "recover" from something harmful. I also think some of these questions aren't asked with an innocent intent. The question itself may seem harmless enough (ie. "Should priest be allowed to marry?"), but sooner or later, it degrades into bashing of the church (ie. "...if priest could marry, there'd be less pedophilia...." or "...there's a higher percentage of priests who are child molestors than there are in the general population....").

That's pretty much the way I feel as well. Fortunately, I have reached the point that I am now able to let it all slide.

 

[BuckNaked]

Its in direct relation...

Baloney. Everyone has free will, and if people choose to misuse the teachings of the Church, that is their decision, and not the fault of the Church.