Question for Florida residents.....

I only know the Central Florida area but the saying goes the further South you get the more North you go. As far as Central Florida, anywhere east of Orlando has a more northern feel to me, Oviedo, Waterford Lakes(considered Orlando) and Avalon park are all very nice. The area has everything you need too, right close by. They have a really great outside mall too. Now the further West or North you go from Orlando the more southern it feels and personally I love it, turns out I'm a southern girl at heart.

Also

Here are some links-

-Waterford Lakes Towne Center mall-

http://www.simon.com/mall/default.aspx?ID=394

-Oviedo- Is in Seminole County and they tend to have the best schools-

http://www.cityofoviedo.net/

-Avalon Park-
http://www.avalonpark.com/

You might also want to check out-

-Lake Mary- which is right up 4 from Orlando-

http://www.lakemaryfl.com/

-Winter Springs-
http://www.winterspringsfl.org/

-Longwood-

http://www.ci.longwood.fl.us/


We looked at all the above towns after a pit stop in Ocala ,Fl for 6 months. My favorite areas out of the above are Oviedo, Avalon Park & Waterford lakes but the others are nice too. Winter park is very nice but really close to downtown Orlando, which can be a plus or a minus depending on what you're looking for. Definitely check it out too.

-Winter Park-

http://www.ci.winter-park.fl.us/2005/

I have lived in Avalon Park for 4 years now and love it! Great area, we have everything we need but the traffic stinks! I love my neighborhood and find that the people are much, much friendlier than CT.
 
OP - I did the move in 2002.

I visited Florida 4 times a year so it must be terrific to live there.

We moved to Tampa (Brandon). It was HELL!

There is NO culture - NONE. Want to see a foreign film, opera, great museums? Nope.

Want a restaurant other than a chain? Very limited.

Want a specialty spice or gourmet food item - nope? When you ask the manager for something he says - whats that?

The state is very poor - I was a AVP in HR and the people applying for jobs - their education was laughable.

Very unfriendly - due to the heat - people drive right into their garages and never see or interact with neighbors.

Transient in nature - so many people come and go.

My car insurance went up, and my real estate taxes in Hillsborough County were DOUBLE what I paid here. Now I did not move to Florida to save money, but thought it was funny that people always said it was cheaper to live in Florida.

So after 2 years of trying to love it - I realized living in Florida sucked (for me) and we moved back to Chicago. I could not be happier.

Allow me to be a positive Chicago voice! :flower3:

We moved from Naperville to the Palm Harbor area (northern Pinellas County) about a year and a half ago. I would be lying if I said it was all sunshine and roses, but do I want to go back to the rat race in Chicago? Heck no!

Culture? Yes, Tampa Bay is inferior to Chicago, but it's there if you're looking. There's a great Salvador Dali museum in St. Pete that always has events, Ruth Eckard Hall and other venues in the area are constantly bringing in different shows - everything from Sarah Brightman to New Kids on the Block to Phantom of the Opera to The Lion King. I know it's not the Adler or Science and Industry, but it's there if you're looking.

Restaurants? This is one thing I was very nervous about because I love food and Chicago does it well. I can truly say that I have more to choose from here than back north. I honestly can't remember the last time we stepped foot in a sit-down chain restaurant. If we're craving Greek, we head down to Tarpon Springs for an awesome authentic (and cheap!) meal. We can get a dozen huge oysters on the half shell for about $10, less than half of what we were used to paying at Hugo's Frog Bar or Catch 35. Fresh fish? I can't begin to name all the independent places that serve Grouper or whatever is in season. Breakfast - mmm...we always hit up the local places that have great omelettes with fresh veggies from the local farmers market.

In the fairness of full disclosure, I'll give you the cons of Floriday food - I miss Portillo's. I miss Portillo's more than some people. There is nothing to compare down here. We have Giordano's, so you're safe there. I also crave a good Chicago steak (Gibson's, Morton's) and the closest is Bern's. Good, but not the same. The best steak I've had down here was actually at Yachtsman's Steakhouse, go figure. There's no White Castle, but there is Krystals. And Chic-fil-a. And Whataburger...mmmm.

Specialty grocery items? Hit and miss. Once you figure out what a neighborhood's demographic is, you can go to that grocery store. I know my Publix here is different than the one two miles away. I have yet to make a one-stop grocery shopping trip down here, but I definitely have a handle on it and plan accordingly.

Florida's reputation is not always the best, that's true. It's the only state that the more north you go, the more southern it gets. :confused3 I still have friends up north that love to send me news snippets with a Floridian doing something extremely stupid, but I've gotten used to it. The education is definitely lacking in this state (we jokingly refer to it as FloriDuh), but there is an effort to rise. I came from Naperville (Money magazine's number two city to live in), so this really was a big adjustment to me. Once I stopped saying "In Chicago..." and realized that different doesn't mean always mean inferior, life became much better.

Unfriendly? Eh, you get what you give. Some neighbors are great, some are horrible - but if you took those horrible people to Chicago, they'd be horrible up there, too.

Transient? Absolutely, but that doesn't make it a bad thing. I think it's great that it's a mixing pot; I find people to be much more accomodating and open because of that. One issue I've always had with the Chicago suburbs is that so many residents firmly believe that life doesn't exist outside of Cook and the collar counties. There's more of Illinois beneath Will County? Blasphemy! Chicagoans aren't always the most open minded.

Cheaper? Yup. My car insurance and our homeowners insurance dropped. Our property taxes dropped so much I almost cried tears of joy (DuPage vs. Pinellas County). Granted, the schools bear the brunt of it, but still. Gas is cheaper. Very few toll roads. Groceries are cheaper and year round farmers markets have definitely helped keep my produce bill down. And there's happy hour! :thumbsup2

Retail shopping? It keeps getting better. We have Kohl's, several different malls (I love International Plaza - it's similar to Oak Brook as far as retailers), all the big box stores you're accustomed to...you won't be missing too much. There's also great outlet malls, either in the Orlando area or in Ellenton.

My biggest gripe? Snowbirds. They clog the roads. They make checking out of any store a longer wait than stand by at Toy Story Mania (especially after church...good Lord). They make driving a hands on lesson in defensive driving. Our worst neighbors are the snowbirds. They have the worst sense of entitlement around here, worse that most of the youth here. I would never, ever work retail or serve down here - they would make me lose it.

To sum it up, it will be what you make of it. If you come down here with a chip on your shoulder and expect everything to be the same, you're going to be miserable. If you do your research and keep an open mind, you should be happy. :thumbsup2

There's so many other things I could touch upon, I'm sure I'll be back with more blabber! :lmao:
 
I REALLY think this is one of those things that just depends on where you are. My best friend has two young boys and she and all the other moms in the area LOVE the schools and rave about them. I went to school in North Lauderdale and our schools were great. I really think it's something that needs to be researched in every area that you're interested in.

Yes, my friends are all happy with their kids' public schools in Florida. Of course, they chose their neighborhoods carefully. There are also good private schools in Florida where some of my friends' children attend.

I went to school in Florida from 3rd grade through college....somehow, I managed to learn to read and write and even do a bit of math.;)
 
I moved here about 2.5 years ago from Lafayette, IN (120 miles or so SE of Chicago). Hmm .. let's see:

SAD: Yep, winters in Indiana (Especially February) would put me in such a funk -- and I still hear my family and friends up there tell me this. I would make a February trip down here almost every year to see my daughter. I fel *so* much better with the sunlight down here.

HEAT: Yeah, it's hot ... but it was hot and humid in Indiana all summer, too. Then you go from that to minus 0 degrees, blowing snow and ice in the winter. No thanks.

An annual pass to Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach is $99 for Florida residents. You can buy an "After 2:00 PM" annual pass for $59. There's our pool .. and what a pool it is!!

CRITTERS: We had spiders, big hairy field spiders in Indiana. Yellow jackets/ hornets in the fall ... Here, I haven't noticed the mosquitos (the little anoles must be doing a good job, and I love my little lizards!) We do pest control. I've seen a black snake in the back yard, but I'd see garter snakes in Indiana.

SHOPPING: We do have Kohl's. The store I miss is *Trader Joe's* -- and I'd drive an hour to visit the one in Indianapolis. We were up there 2 weeks ago for a wedding and they told me they *are* going to be moving into Florida since they have a distribution center developing in Atlanta now. :banana: :banana:

DRIVING: I also know all the backroads from home to Disneyworld. I live about 26 miles NE of Disney, it takes me anywhere from 30-45 minutes to drive in to work, and this is avoiding the "big" roads. I could get on the 429 (toll road) and it would be quicker, but I enjoy seeing the sandhill cranes on the way home from work if I take a certain route.

CULTURE (or, cul-chah): well, we didn't have much in Lafayette. :confused3 We could go to Indy or Chicago, but after working all week, we didn't bother that much.

We are out in the rolling hills/orange groves/lakes area (though fewer and fewer orange groves with development). Orange blossoms permeate the air in February/March. Lots of little small towns with locally owned restaurants.

RESTAURANTS: I had my first Portillo's hot dog a couple of weeks ago prior to my stepdaughter's wedding in Chicago. We could definitely use a Portillo's down here.

SCHOOLS: We don't have school-age children, but this would be a big concern.

But every night, if I choose, I can sit on my screened-in lanai and watch the Magic Kingdom fireworks.

And I've seen Snow White walk through the hallway at my job (how cool is that??) Also, I find Mickey Mouse head glitter in the hallways sometimes .. so yeah, I'm not missing Indiana at all. (And my salary started basically at the point it was when I stopped working at my clerical job at Purdue University).
 

I lived in FL (Tampa and Clearwater) for 3 years and discovered it was not for me. I dragged DH back to MA in Nov '99
There were many reasons why I didn't like it. The traffic - it takes a long time to get places that normally I would have lots of available options to get to. The weather - It took me a year for the thrill to wear off before I realized how much I love the change of seasons. Even the winter. The lack of Mom and Pop type food places. No Dunkin Donuts ;) No good homemade Italian food or delis or Chinese food. Far too many strip malls. When DH goes to visit his family in New Port Richey (where they moved when he was 13) every year he always gets lost trying to get around the old neighborhood because there are so many Walmarts, Targets, Sonics, etc... that were never there so his sense of direction is completely thrown off.
There was a lot of anti-Northerner and anti - Catholic sentiment where I lived. Plus they dislike the Red Sox and the Patriots in Tampa :rolleyes1 I just never felt welcome or that I belonged. I had to put my education on hold for reasons that don't apply to your situation so I won't get into.

Bottom line. Florida was just not for me. Or at least that part of Florida. I'm not saying it's a bad place. I'm not saying my experience is common. I'm not saying that there was no positives about my experience (Great Mexican food, Greek food, BBQ, and the beaches. I actually miss the skinks - they were really cute. DH misses Cuban sandwiches).
I get a little concerned when so many people move because of the warm weather and close proximity to Disney because FL is not for everyone. Just like any area is not for everyone. So I would highly suggest visiting a few different areas (rent a condo or a house to get the real living experience - not a hotel) and see if it is a good fit for you. Also I would definitely not recommend moving without a job in place first.
 
Don't want to hi-jack the post, but this is really an enlightening thread! DH and I have been talking for years about moving to the Panhandle's Beach area (PCB, St George Island, Mexico Beach, etc). Although not as warm as Tampa/Orlando area, I would miss some temperature/seasonal change, so this area is a compromise. Love hearing about taxes, insurance, since I always take the info from realtors with a grain of salt. I like SGI the best (we will be retiring, not looking for jobs) and the slower pace of the area.
 
OP - I did the move in 2002.

I visited Florida 4 times a year so it must be terrific to live there.

We moved to Tampa (Brandon). It was HELL!

There is NO culture - NONE. Want to see a foreign film, opera, great museums? Nope.

Want a restaurant other than a chain? Very limited.

Want a specialty spice or gourmet food item - nope? When you ask the manager for something he says - whats that?

The state is very poor - I was a AVP in HR and the people applying for jobs - their education was laughable.

Very unfriendly - due to the heat - people drive right into their garages and never see or interact with neighbors.

Transient in nature - so many people come and go.

My car insurance went up, and my real estate taxes in Hillsborough County were DOUBLE what I paid here. Now I did not move to Florida to save money, but thought it was funny that people always said it was cheaper to live in Florida.

So after 2 years of trying to love it - I realized living in Florida sucked (for me) and we moved back to Chicago. I could not be happier.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I have Very friendly highly educated family in Brandon who love it there. I can assure anyone who wants to move there, that all of these things stated here are not completely tru for every person in every area. It does have a country feel but there are plenty of local eating establishments and I'm a highly experienced cook who has never had a problem finding an ingredient there when cooking with my SIL. It's just a different kind of shopping. Sometimes you might have to search for things but it doesn't mean they aren't available. Also they are friends with everyone in their neighborhood with no one darting like animals from their cars to the air conditioning.

I think it must all depend on the specific area you're in I suppose.
 
If we're craving Greek, we head down to Tarpon Springs for an awesome authentic (and cheap!) meal.


MMMM best Greek food EVER!!!!!!

I also like to buy homemade goatsmilk soaps there!
 
We have Dunkin Donuts in Orlando.

The bottom line, as someone who has lived in 7 states, is that is it all what you make of it. You can find positives and negatives to everywhere.
 
Allow me to be a positive Chicago voice! :flower3:

We moved from Naperville to the Palm Harbor area (northern Pinellas County) about a year and a half ago. I would be lying if I said it was all sunshine and roses, but do I want to go back to the rat race in Chicago? Heck no!

Culture? Yes, Tampa Bay is inferior to Chicago, but it's there if you're looking. There's a great Salvador Dali museum in St. Pete that always has events, Ruth Eckard Hall and other venues in the area are constantly bringing in different shows - everything from Sarah Brightman to New Kids on the Block to Phantom of the Opera to The Lion King. I know it's not the Adler or Science and Industry, but it's there if you're looking.

Restaurants? This is one thing I was very nervous about because I love food and Chicago does it well. I can truly say that I have more to choose from here than back north. I honestly can't remember the last time we stepped foot in a sit-down chain restaurant. If we're craving Greek, we head down to Tarpon Springs for an awesome authentic (and cheap!) meal. We can get a dozen huge oysters on the half shell for about $10, less than half of what we were used to paying at Hugo's Frog Bar or Catch 35. Fresh fish? I can't begin to name all the independent places that serve Grouper or whatever is in season. Breakfast - mmm...we always hit up the local places that have great omelettes with fresh veggies from the local farmers market.

In the fairness of full disclosure, I'll give you the cons of Floriday food - I miss Portillo's. I miss Portillo's more than some people. There is nothing to compare down here. We have Giordano's, so you're safe there. I also crave a good Chicago steak (Gibson's, Morton's) and the closest is Bern's. Good, but not the same. The best steak I've had down here was actually at Yachtsman's Steakhouse, go figure. There's no White Castle, but there is Krystals. And Chic-fil-a. And Whataburger...mmmm.

Specialty grocery items? Hit and miss. Once you figure out what a neighborhood's demographic is, you can go to that grocery store. I know my Publix here is different than the one two miles away. I have yet to make a one-stop grocery shopping trip down here, but I definitely have a handle on it and plan accordingly.

Florida's reputation is not always the best, that's true. It's the only state that the more north you go, the more southern it gets. :confused3 I still have friends up north that love to send me news snippets with a Floridian doing something extremely stupid, but I've gotten used to it. The education is definitely lacking in this state (we jokingly refer to it as FloriDuh), but there is an effort to rise. I came from Naperville (Money magazine's number two city to live in), so this really was a big adjustment to me. Once I stopped saying "In Chicago..." and realized that different doesn't mean always mean inferior, life became much better.

Unfriendly? Eh, you get what you give. Some neighbors are great, some are horrible - but if you took those horrible people to Chicago, they'd be horrible up there, too.

Transient? Absolutely, but that doesn't make it a bad thing. I think it's great that it's a mixing pot; I find people to be much more accomodating and open because of that. One issue I've always had with the Chicago suburbs is that so many residents firmly believe that life doesn't exist outside of Cook and the collar counties. There's more of Illinois beneath Will County? Blasphemy! Chicagoans aren't always the most open minded.

Cheaper? Yup. My car insurance and our homeowners insurance dropped. Our property taxes dropped so much I almost cried tears of joy (DuPage vs. Pinellas County). Granted, the schools bear the brunt of it, but still. Gas is cheaper. Very few toll roads. Groceries are cheaper and year round farmers markets have definitely helped keep my produce bill down. And there's happy hour! :thumbsup2

Retail shopping? It keeps getting better. We have Kohl's, several different malls (I love International Plaza - it's similar to Oak Brook as far as retailers), all the big box stores you're accustomed to...you won't be missing too much. There's also great outlet malls, either in the Orlando area or in Ellenton.

My biggest gripe? Snowbirds. They clog the roads. They make checking out of any store a longer wait than stand by at Toy Story Mania (especially after church...good Lord). They make driving a hands on lesson in defensive driving. Our worst neighbors are the snowbirds. They have the worst sense of entitlement around here, worse that most of the youth here. I would never, ever work retail or serve down here - they would make me lose it.

To sum it up, it will be what you make of it. If you come down here with a chip on your shoulder and expect everything to be the same, you're going to be miserable. If you do your research and keep an open mind, you should be happy. :thumbsup2

There's so many other things I could touch upon, I'm sure I'll be back with more blabber! :lmao:

Thank you for posting such a thoughtful post. I was ready to pack up and leave thinking Florida must be an awful place to live. ;)
 


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