Question about "faking" age

[umaangel00]

I think all of your a mean and this is not what the dis should be about! Leave the woman alone. She knows that it would be a lie but all she wanted to know is if she would get caught! Now BACK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[beattyfamily]

I think all of your a mean and this is not what the dis should be about! Leave the woman alone. She knows that it would be a lie but all she wanted to know is if she would get caught! Now BACK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MareQ]

I think all of your a mean and this is not what the dis should be about! Leave the woman alone. She knows that it would be a lie but all she wanted to know is if she would get caught! Now BACK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry dear but this is a public message board. Nobody is being mean - we're simply telling it like it is. If somebody wants to save a few $$ there are far more creative and HONEST ways to do it @@

 

[Allison]

I think all of your a mean and this is not what the dis should be about! Leave the woman alone. She knows that it would be a lie but all she wanted to know is if she would get caught! Now BACK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

People are debating with others. They aren't even addressing the original poster. They are debating amongst themselves.

Stop reading if you don't like it.

 

[ujpest_doza]

I think all of your a mean and this is not what the dis should be about! Leave the woman alone. She knows that it would be a lie but all she wanted to know is if she would get caught! Now BACK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lyncruiser]

I have to chuckle because I've often thought Disney cuts off the age for a child at 9 (instead of the more appropriate 11 or 12) because half the so-called 9-years-olds really are 10 or 11 or even 12! If the age cut-off were 11, people would be passing their 13-year-olds off as 11. Seems to me, Disney has already figured out most people knock a couple of years off a kid's age and has dealt with it by making the cut-off artificially young!

As for taking advantage of Disney, I don't personally condone what the OP's sister wants to do, but I simply can't accuse anyone of taking advantage of Disney when their top executives often take home, with stock option exercises, something like $500 million annually!

Finally, is it hard to tell someone's age. You bet it is. My dh was recently carded at the state liquor store -- and he's 48!!

 

[ujpest_doza]

I have to chuckle because I've often thought Disney cuts off the age for a child at 9 (instead of the more appropriate 11 or 12) because half the so-called 9-years-olds really are 10 or 11 or even 12! If the age cut-off were 11, people would be passing their 13-year-olds off as 11. Seems to me, Disney has already figured out most people knock a couple of years off a kid's age and has dealt with it by making the cut-off artificially young!

As for taking advantage of Disney, I don't personally condone what the OP's sister wants to do, but I simply can't accuse anyone of taking advantage of Disney when their top executives often take home, with stock option exercises, something like $500 million annually!

Finally, is it hard to tell someone's age. You bet it is. My dh was recently carded at the state liquor store -- and he's 48!!

I do agree that 9 does seem young for someone to be then classed as an adult.

 

[salmoneous]

I just don't think it is particularly big deal for someone to say a child is a little younger than they are if it will save that person $150 to $200 by doing so, if it is feasible, but you may not get away with it.

When does ti become a big deal? When lying cheats Disney out of $500? Out of $1000? $10,000?

 

[Cmbar]

GOOFYDAD...shh .... Don't tell the moral police that you can do Disney really cheap, they think you should pay rack rate for everything or you aren't allowed to go. I mean I am sure NONE of them have ever used a discount code to stay at a resort. I mean Disney set a price and that's it, don't use discount codes you were told about on the Mousesavers.com or Disboards, that's dishonest.... Disney didn't phone you directly and give you that personal invitation.. Oh an by the way you aren't ALLOWED to bring food into the parks, Disney just chooses to let you bring them in and lets you STEAL from them. Otherwise you have the option of not eating at all because you don't want to/ or can't pay the ridiculously high prices for food. That's right it's just good marketing!

Chill people.... The OP sister is taking it too far, I would never ask my kids to lie, but follow every rule to the T is just a bit ridiculous. And I like GOOFYDAD will take my water bottles into the park and not think twice that I have taught my kids some kind of amoral lesson.

Oh and to the person that insisted on paying for her 3 year old, I do applaude you because being honest is always the better choice. But in my opinion, you were honest by telling them he was three. The DISNEY representative told you you did not have to pay. She wasn;t your friend or relative or someone on the sly you were paying to let him in, she was acting with authority from the DIsney company who sets the RULES! So not to make you feel bad at all because you are obviously a good person, I can understand why you might feel like a chump.

 

[GoofyDad869]

(responding to the poster with the hysterical "GET OFF HER CASE"-type posting)

And as somebody else has already pointed out, his/her original question was answered (maybe you'll get caught, maybe not). At which point, the thread then shifted to a larger discussion on personal ethics and the behavior this can potentially endorse.

If you can't stand the fire, don't get in the pot. I think the original poster already anticipated that (I think he/she said something like "...this will ruffle a feather or two here..." or something to that effect).

We're each our own moral compass. There are lots of things worse in this world that you can do than cheat Disney out of a ticket's price (or the difference in a ticket's price). Or you can suck it up and do what you're supposed to. That is completely your choice. I'm not perfect in that regard, and I don't know anybody who is (well, maybe that one guy, but He lived a looong time ago in another place that was very "un-Disney-esque").

For my opinion on the original point, I don't know if she'll get caught lying about her kid's age. I don't much care if she does or not. I've never tried it, I don't know how common the practice is, I don't know how often CMs ask for proof. My further opinion is if someone does try it, they should be prepared for the consequences, whatever those consequences may be (up to and including having the kid stuffed & mounted in IASW).

 

[ujpest_doza]

When does ti become a big deal? When lying cheats Disney out of $500? Out of $1000? $10,000?

A good question that i cannot answer

 

[SueM in MN]

Finally, is it hard to tell someone's age. You bet it is. My dh was recently carded at the state liquor store -- and he's 48!!

Uhmmmm, that's probably not because he looked young.
A lot of stores that sell alcohol have added a screen to the register that makes the clerk put something in from the ID to prove that they checked it, no matter what age the person is. The sale can't continue until the screen is dealt with. I've been carded a number of times for that reason - the clerk explained they have no choice but to ask everyone, even if they look old enough to have children who are old enough to buy alcohol.
My 76 yo FIL has even joked that he must be getting younger instead of older because he has been carded.

The DISNEY representative told you you did not have to pay. She wasn;t your friend or relative or someone on the sly you were paying to let him in, she was acting with authority from the DIsney company who sets the RULES! So not to make you feel bad at all because you are obviously a good person, I can understand why you might feel like a chump.

Not exactly. The Disney representative, who knew what the rules were, chose to tell someone to bypass the rules. Just because she said to not buy a ticket for a 3 yr old doesn't mean she was acting with authority from the Disney company when she said it.
So, I applaud the person who bought the 3 year old a ticket, even though the person who was supposed to be enforcing the rule about tickets and age chose to ignore it.

 

[ujpest_doza]

My guess is drug smuggling!
Tara

I am kidding!

I did wonder

 

[TheRustyScupper]

I do not understand people asking questions regarding if they can get away with cheating and lying and stealing. What is next . . . can I shoplift at WDW?

 

[ujpest_doza]

can I shoplift at WDW?

Don't see why not, but i think they do have cctv and security tags on the merchandise so if you're not careful you may get caught.

 

[salmoneous]

Don't see why not, but i think they do have cctv and security tags on the merchandise so if you're not careful you may get caught.

On the merchandise, but not on the food, so I bet you could get away with it at some of the CS restaurants. You could even coach your kids to distract the CM's for a minute for an extra edge. (not that I would ever do such a thing myself, just want to answer the question).

 

[challada]

Drats that I already bought my tickets....

I have a new plan...pass the 6 year old off as a 2 year old, the 11 as a 9 and the 10 as a 9 too...then my DH and myself will walk on our knees thru the turnstiles to see if we can pass as kids too...then we will waddle on our knees to the nearest food stand and get the newly 2 and 9 year olds to distract the CM while we steal the popcorn and churros!

 

[Mariposa]

I can see how you or other posters may be offended by the drug dealing comment, but I'm not sure why you would be since you just advocated that stealing is ok. It's funny that people pick and choose their levels of morality: stealing is ok, but drug dealing is not. Sorry, but they are both one and the same.

I'm sorry.. While I agree that lying about your child's age to get a deal is wrong... I am absolutely amazed at the idea that all things wrong are on the same level.. So, telling your spouse that a shirt looks great on them when, in fact, it looks horrid (white lie) is on par with killing people for the heck of it (cold blooded murder)?? (I KNOW I took the two extremes here.) Of course they're on different levels of morality. And I'd say that lying to save oneself some money and dealing drugs (which kills people in a variety of ways) are two ENTIRELY different levels of wrong. Not that I condone doing either, but I'd much rather live next door to someone who lied to Disney than someone who deals crack. YMMV.

 

[DVCJEN]

Drats that I already bought my tickets....

I have a new plan...pass the 6 year old off as a 2 year old, the 11 as a 9 and the 10 as a 9 too...then my DH and myself will walk on our knees thru the turnstiles to see if we can pass as kids too...then we will waddle on our knees to the nearest food stand and get the newly 2 and 9 year olds to distract the CM while we steal the popcorn and churros!

I nearly choked on my diet coke---I was laughing so hard!!! Good one!

 

[AUDramaQueen]

Of course this has turned into a moral debate but I think some of us are going a little too far with "a lie is a lie". Yes, it's true a lie is a lie and while I think it is wrong to lie about your kids' ages to save a buck, I don't beleive all lies are equal. I have lied to my kids several times.

Just got thru putting a major one over on them this Christmas and will continue to do so every Christmas until they find out that Mom and Dad are really eating those cookies they left out. I doubt however, that my kids will become horrible people because of it.

I also told them we were going hiking last year and then we really went to WDW! What a terrible parent I am.

There I've confessed, Whew, I feel much better. Continue with your judgements...