post office didn't deliver to my side of the street

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We had snow today. I had a snow day. I went out about noon and used the snowblower on my driveway and sidewalks. I did notice that the plow for some reason today left a big swath on my side--about 4 feet away from the curb. That's never happened before, but they don't want to pay the plow people overtime and they've said they will be cutting back, so I imagine my street (a cul-de-sac) only got one pass.
I went out later to find the mailman (in the little jeep) had not even attempted to get close to my mailbox. No tire tracks on my entire side of the street. But the people on the other side (where the plow was closer to the curb) all got their mail.
This has never happened before. And when I called they said no, I can't get my mail because the carriers are still out and they close at 4:30.
Shouldn't he have at least made an attempt? It's light, fluffy snow, not the big packed stuff. They tell us to shovel our walks, not 5 feet out from our driveways and off to the sides as well. I would feel better if I'd seen some tracks indicating he had made some kind of effort (isn't this why they have jeeps?), but it looks like he just drove on by.
Robin M.
 
For a while my neighbor was parking in front of our sidewalk right where the mailbox is. After about a week and a half, we found a note from the Mailman stating that if we wanted our mail we needed to move that car. Yup he got out of his jeep and left just the note but not that weeks mail.

So I parked our extra car in front of our neighbors mailbox, next day he moved his car.
 
Wish I didn't get mail today.. just more stupid bills..
 

I cant really comment on snow, but I was a letter carrier in Florida for 18 years. If a mailbox is blocked, we didnt have to deliver the mail. That being said, I usually did, because it usually would an isolated incident with a service vehicle or something. What I found was, it was especially teenage drivers who would block the boxes in other cases. They would have all these other places to park, but no,it was always in front of someones mailbox. In those cases a note and non delivery worked best cause it was the only way to break the pattern. (Then about 6 months later they would start doing it again)
 
I can't speak to it personally, but they should have made an attempt.

However, I don't get my mail delivered anyway (the Post Office actually doesn't deliver mail to about 3/4 of my street). I have to go out (about 3 miles) to a PO Box to get my mail.
 
We've had a similar problem lately. First the plow knocked our mailbox down and it took DH a few days to get it put back up. Then during the next storm the plow guy plowed in the mailbox and at first the mailman drove up and delivered but then I noticed we weren't getting any mail. Yesterday we got 3 pieces of mail- one with a note written on it that he was holding the mail at the post office until he had clear access to our box :sad2: If he could put the 3 pieces in why not the rest? :confused3 We got more snow today so DH is trying to clear it from in front of the mailbox.
 
It is the homeowner's responsibility to ensure access to their mailbox meets postal standards, not their own personal standards. Postal carriers are not authorized to take undue risks, onto themselves, or onto their vehicle.
 
grumble.

Postal people irk me sometimes, no offense to any who might be here. My parents live on a cul-de-sac and if anyone is parked anywhere in the remote vicinity of their mailbox, they don't get mail that day.

It seems like it should be illegal to just not give people their mail simply because you didn't want to get out of your car for two seconds to walk over to the mailbox.

They have had late bills before because of this and it's no fault of their own. They can't help it if neighbor kids etc park in front of their house in the middle of the night or even worse after they leave for work when they can't even seek them out to ask them to move their cars. They've even called the post office to complain but they don't care at all.

Just GET OUT of the car and drop off the mail, a couple extra steps isn't going to kill you! Sheesh! Some people have NO control over people parking near their mailbox!!!
 
If the postal service intended for postal workers to walk to each mailbox, they'd still have that as the standard mode of delivery. That approach is more expensive, factoring in ALL the factors associated with it. The postal service standards are there to ensure there is a clear understanding about what their obligations are with regard to delivering mail and what your obligations are as a home-delivery recipient of mail. If you don't like that offer, you have the option to stop home delivery, and pick up your mail at the post office.
 
It's common thinking in this day and age. In the bus business we get yelled at because we won't stop in front of somebodies house instead of the bus stop. The reasoning is...you are driving right by, what's the big deal with stopping for a couple of seconds. Well, it is a huge deal. It means that people will not get where they want to go when they need to get there. The same applies to the Post Office. If they don't enforce the rule can you imagine how long it would take to deliver the mail once everyone figured out that they will stop and get out of the vehicle to hand deliver their mail.

Rules are put in place for a reason. It isn't just some bureaucrat deciding to make everyone's life miserable and exercise unwarranted power.
 
Our PO sends out notes stating that they will not deliver the mail unless you clear an area in front of your mailbox, the request at least 4 feet of cleared road in front of your box. If the plow comes and doesn't plow close enough to our box we need to snownblow it so the mailwoman can deliver it. We also have to clear it after the plow comes and it all piles in front of the box.
 
We live in a rural area and are well aware that the post office will not deliver if the box has too much snow in front of it. While Dh is clearing with the snow blower he sometimes has to do the mail box too (its on the other side of the road). The plow used to knock it down a lot but Dh got a huge rock (like four feet accross) and blasted a small hole in it. He then cemented a metal stand for our mail box and the neighbor's box. A backhoe had to come and pick it up and place it on the side of the road. It looks neat and now the plow doesn't tip it over - AND - it appears the plow is more comfortable getting closer to the box because we don't have to shovel it out as often either. My Dh is smart
 
when we had huge piles of snow we would always shovel out around the mailbox. He still had to get out of the truck to reach the mailbox but he did not have to walk through deep snow.

I am sure we would not have gotten the mail if we did not.

Mikeeee
 
If the postal service intended for postal workers to walk to each mailbox, they'd still have that as the standard mode of delivery. That approach is more expensive, factoring in ALL the factors associated with it. The postal service standards are there to ensure there is a clear understanding about what their obligations are with regard to delivering mail and what your obligations are as a home-delivery recipient of mail. If you don't like that offer, you have the option to stop home delivery, and pick up your mail at the post office.

I totally agree. While it is frustrating when the plow blocks the way to the mailbox (this happened to us yesterday!), it's not the mailman's responsibility to get the mail there in that case. They are under no obligation to deliver if they do not have a clear & unobstructed path directly to the mailbox, or if they feel the driving conditions are unsafe. They are also under no obligation to leave their vehicle for any reason. Mail delivery is a free service. If someone doesn't want to respect that they're not going to do everyone a favor by wading through snow or walking the mail to the box, then they should pay for a PO box & go pick it up at their convenience.
 
does everyone have a mailbox by the road? Mine is attached to my house.. everyones around here is.. Our mailman/maillady has to walk to everyones house. Sounds like your mail people have it rather easy compared to ours!
 
I live on a cul de sac as well. 14 houses. Our mailman parks his jeep on the end of the street and walks. Most of the homes here do not have the mail box at the end of the drive way.
 
does everyone have a mailbox by the road? Mine is attached to my house.. everyones around here is.. Our mailman/maillady has to walk to everyones house. Sounds like your mail people have it rather easy compared to ours!

Hi Helene! :wave2:

In the town limits here, mailpeople walk, as mailboxes are on houses. I'm in a rural area outside of town, so everyone that wants mail delivery must have a mailbox, and they drive.
 
well now the want to only deliver 5 days a week


WASHINGTON – Massive deficits could force the post office to cut out one day of mail delivery, the postmaster general told Congress on Wednesday, in asking lawmakers to lift the requirement that the agency deliver mail six days a week. If the change happens, that doesn't necessarily mean an end to Saturday mail delivery. Previous post office studies have looked at the possibility of skipping some other day when mail flow is light, such as Tuesday.

Faced with dwindling mail volume and rising costs, the post office was $2.8 billion in the red last year. "If current trends continue, we could experience a net loss of $6 billion or more this fiscal year," Postmaster General John E. Potter said in testimony for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee.

Total mail volume was 202 billion items last year, over 9 billion less than the year before, the largest single volume drop in history.

And, despite annual rate increases, Potter said 2009 could be the first year since 1946 that the actual amount of money collected by the post office declines.

"It is possible that the cost of six-day delivery may simply prove to be unaffordable," Potter said. "I reluctantly request that Congress remove the annual appropriation bill rider, first added in 1983, that requires the Postal Service to deliver mail six days each week."

"The ability to suspend delivery on the lightest delivery days, for example, could save dollars in both our delivery and our processing and distribution networks. I do not make this request lightly, but I am forced to consider every option given the severity of our challenge," Potter said.

That doesn't mean it would happen right away, he noted, adding that the agency is working to cut costs and any final decision on changing delivery would have to be made by the postal governing board.

If it did become necessary to go to five-day delivery, Potter said, "we would do this by suspending delivery on the lightest volume days."

The Postal Service raised the issue of cutting back on days of service last fall in a study it issued. At that time the agency said the six-day rule should be eliminated, giving the post office, "the flexibility to meet future needs for delivery frequency.

A study done by George Mason University last year for the independent Postal Regulatory Commission estimated that going from six-day to five-day delivery would save the post office more than $1.9 billion annually, while a Postal Service study estimated the saving at $3.5 billion.

The next postal rate increase is scheduled for May, with the amount to be announced next month. Under current rules that would be limited to the amount of the increase in last year's consumer price index, 3.8 percent. That would round to a 2-cent increase in the current 42-cent first class rate.

The agency could request a larger increase because of the special circumstances, but Potter believes that would be counterproductive by causing mail volume to fall even more.

Dan G. Blair, chairman of the Postal Regulatory Commission, noted in his testimony that cutting service could also carry the risk of loss of mail volume. He suggested Congress review both delivery and restrictions it imposed on the closing of small and rural post offices.

The post office's problem is twofold, Potter explained.

"A revolution in the way people communicate has structurally changed the way America uses the mail," with a shift from first-class letters to the Internet for personal communications, billings, payments, statements and business correspondence.

To some extent that was made up for my growth in standard mail — largely advertising — but the economic meltdown has resulted in a drop there also.

Potter also asked that Congress ease the requirement that it make advance payments into a fund to cover future health benefits for retirees. Last year the post office was required to put $5.6 billion into the fund.

"We are in uncharted waters," Potter said. "But we do know that mail volume and revenue — and with them the health of the mail system — are dependent on the length and depth of the current economic recession."

He proposed easing the retirement pre-funding for eight years, while promising that the agency will cover the premiums for retirement health insurance.

At the same hearing the General Accounting Office agreed that the post office is facing an urgent need for help to preserve its financial strength. But the GAO suggested easing the pre-funding requirement for only two years, with Congress to determine the need for more relief later.

Potter noted that the agency has cut costs by $1 billion per year since 2002, reduced its work force by 120,000, halted construction of new facilities except in emergencies, frozen executive salaries and is in the process of reducing its headquarters work force by 15 percent.
 
where mailboxes are on the houses they have been like that from the start and are "grandfathered in" so to speak, but you will see that new developments are either curbside or even "gang" boxes. Each route is accessed for how long it takes so a jumping route, or walking route as opposed to curbside will obviously have less deliveries because it takes longer to deliver. I carried a curbside route that used to have almost 1000 deliveries. Can you imagine how much longer it would have taken if even just 5% of those boxes were blocked and I had to get out of the truck to put the mail in the boxes.
 












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