Pool hopping w/extra person and mug

[catnik]

The "New and Unofficial Pool Hopping With the Extra Person Staying in Your Room and Carrying a Reusable Mug" thread:

While reading the latest reports of felony activity at WDW (was it the extra person in the room or the reusable mug thread...can't remember), it occurred to me that these issues get raised over and over again with much consternation but little resolution. May I humbly offer for your review the following summations, "copy and paste" formatted for either viewpoint:

**Pool hopping (when you are not a DVC member):

Affirmation:
-everyone does it/it doesn't hurt anyone
-maybe if I like the pool I will stay at that resort some day
-what difference does an extra 2 (or 4 or 8) people make anyway
-when I used to come to WDW in 1979 we did it all the time so
why can't I do it now

Condemnation:
-it is against the rules/look what you are teaching your children
-it causes overcrowding for those guests who are staying at the
resort
-pay for your value room, swim in your value pool; pay for your
deluxe room, etc etc

**Extra Person Staying in the Room (beyond official WDW
Capacity)

Affirmation:
-everyone does it/it doesn't hurt anyone
-onsite rooms are so expensive/Disney makes a good profit off
the room anyway
-the extra person will spend lots of money at Disney and make up
for the free ride

Condemnation:
-it is against the rules/look what you are teaching your children
-it is a safety hazard and against fire code
-if/when you are caught you will have to pay rack rate for
another room (it happened to my sister's boyfriend's uncle's
neighbor, I swear!)

**Reusable mugs (those from a previous trip/from another
resort/purchased off ebay/borrowed from your neighbor/etc):

Affirmation:
-everyone does it/it doesn't hurt anyone
-I paid so much for the mug the first time I should get unlimited
refills forever
-When I bought my mug 15 years go they promised me unlimited
refills forever
-Fountain drinks are high profit/low cost for Disney; they can
afford the "freebies"

Condemnation:
-it is against the rules/look what you are teaching your children
-Disney will raise the price of the mugs to factor in lost revenue
from "freebies"
-Disney will stop offering mugs altogether and we'll be
spending $2.50 for each bottle of Coke


What have I missed? Seems to me there will always be those for and against these issues and never the two shall meet.
Besides, there are so many more important issues to debate. Like, why is the WL so overpriced and cramped and the AKL so
dark and isolated? And is it really so wrong if I bring tupperware to the concierge lounge to "stock up" for our next day's meals? And, if my son just joined the Marines but can pass for 9, why can't I buy him a child's pass? And don't even get me started on why I can't stay off site, park at the GF and take the monorail over to MK for free......

 

[Disney Debbie]

LOL!! I love how the first two on each pro and con is the same thing! That's soooo true!!

 

[HappyMommy2]

LOL, very good, Catnik!
All the main points, without the emotion!

 

[jlkmn]

i have a question about the refillable mugs.

when i bought ours 3 years ago we were told that we got free refills, for as long as we had the mugs they were good forever, for as many times as we visited that resort. and that they are only for that resort that you bought them at.
were we told the wrong information?

jen

 

[catnik]

Oh, Jen....

You open a can of worms with any questions on these 3 topics. Present WDW policy is that reusable mugs are good only for the current trip and only with mugs bought during the current trip at the current resort. There will be people who tell you that you must follow the new policy; there will be people who tell you that Disney promised you free refills and you are right to hold them to it. Sort of why I posted....trust me...there is NO clear answer here or ANYWHERE in the known universe

 

[A Mickeyfan]

Originally posted by jlkmn
i have a question about the refillable mugs.

when i bought ours 3 years ago we were told that we got free refills, for as long as we had the mugs they were good forever, for as many times as we visited that resort. and that they are only for that resort that you bought them at.
were we told the wrong information?

jen

I was given the same info when I purchased my first one in 1997! I believe at that time the info was not false, however since then, they have "up-dated" the policy and now it does state (in the food courts) that they are only good for as long as your "stay". I now have sooooo many mugs that I am running out of room to but them. Maybe Disney should start a recycle-a-mug program. We give them our old mug, they give us a credit towards the purchase of a new one. LOL

 

[catnik]

Mickeyfan:

I see the beginnings of a new thread....what have YOU created with your old, now non-reusable mugs??!!

 

[Parrothd]

Originally posted by catnik
-what difference does an extra 2 (or 4 or 8) people make anyway
-when I used to come to WDW in 1979 we did it all the time so
why can't I do it now

2 or 4 or 8 people? You have to be kidding right? Let's say you're only 2. No problem. Multiply that by only a fraction of the rooms on WDW property now-a-days.

I'd really hate to see 8000 people trying to crowd in the volcano pool at the Polynesian......on top of the guests who paid to stay there.

Some people will just never "get it". This is the unfortunate reason that rules have to be established. 1979 was a much different time in this great country. Common sense is simply non-existent anymore.

 

[hellokitty]

uh, this was a "joke" wasnt it? i dont think they really meant it was okay, they are stating what others have said in recent threads..

at least that is what I got out of it.

very cute starter!!

 

[cinmell]

 

[MickeyisanNDfan]

I just don't understand why people ask these 3 questions on the board in the first place...either do it or don't do it. do you really need the opinion of all of us?

 

[hellokitty]

the only reason I think they ask is becuase they already feel guilty and want others to okay what they know is wrong to make
themselves feel better??

it is sad we are willing to compromise our morals just because
we dont like the "rules".

 

[thumpersfriend]

catnik - the only resolution I have for this is when people post, it gives me a better idea if this may or not be the resort I stay at.

 

[tiggersmom2]

Catnik,
Your post really made me smile! Thanks for the laugh!

 

[Kaycee]

ROFL!!

I think this post should be stuck to the top of the forum so that whenever one of these questions come up, those of us who've read them a thousand times can just cut and paste our answers!

Thanks for a great laugh, catnik!!

 

[Goof]

Catnik, well spoken

 

[Debbie]

Great thread, but if they "stick it", I won't get my weekly laugh.

I just don't understand why people ask these 3 questions on the board in the first place...either do it or don't do it. do you really need the opinion of all of us?

the only reason I think they ask is becuase they already feel guilty and want others to okay what they know is wrong to make
themselves feel better??

No, it COULD be because they really don't know the answer.

And it is not

sad [that]we are willing to compromise our morals just because we dont like the "rules".

it is sad that so many people are so quick to jump on others for things that don't concern them.

Thanks for the giggle catnik. Now, hopefully, everyone can take it as it was meant to be.

 

[SuzyQue]

I honestly haven't read any threads entitled "pool hopping"
"extra person" or "reusing mugs" in some time, simply because I felt enough was enough. But when I saw the title on this thread, I thought we were having a late April fool's joke. Thank you so much for this Catnik , it really made me smile! ~~

 

[k&a&c'smom]

Catnik, I laughed soooo hard at this, I had tears!! And, then, some of the responses got me going again!! Too much!!

 

[DisKim]

You gave me my laugh for the day. Thanks!