Political Donations

[pearlieq]

WHAAAT? He made the donation as a private citizen. It's none of our business. If the Disney company had made a donation, that might be a different issue.

Are you seriously suggesting that anyone who works at Disney should completely cede their right to be part of our democratic process? Do you think they shouldn't be allowed to vote?

If anyone would let the personal political actions of an officer of a company affect their feelings towards it, I would question their judgment, not the company's.

This is just about the craziest thing I've ever heard.

 

[BuckNaked]

I'm under the impression he used his own money, not profits of the company.

Where do you think his own money comes from?

 

[Bob Slydell]

Where do you think his own money comes from?

Income working for a corporation. It would be like having someone say they're not going to buy products from my company because they didn't like that I donated to XYZ Foundation. If they're the owner of a company, that's different, but to use income from whatever profession to use as donations, that, IMO, is no reflection of the company's ideals.

Then again, I would never buy insurance from Progressive either -- but that's just because I know how they treat their employees (like they're disposable).

 

[NewJersey]

Where do you think his own money comes from?

Point taken. So, if I donate money to a candidate should the company I work for then be held accountable by opponents of that candidate, since I get my money from my paycheck?

 

[NewJersey]

Income working for a corporation. It would be like having someone say they're not going to buy products from my company because they didn't like that I donated to XYZ Foundation. If they're the owner of a company, that's different, but to use income from whatever profession to use as donations, that, IMO, is no reflection of the company's ideals.

Then again, I would never buy insurance from Progressive either -- but that's just because I know how they treat their employees (like they're disposable).

My point exactly.

OT: How's the gym working out for you?

 

[CapeCodTenor]

Nice to see you wvrevy, I haven't seen you in a while...was beginning to wonder where you went off to.

...mysoginist conservative freaks. You gotta go with what you believe in...

At the risk of opening up a huge can of worms, I have to ask; why do you resort to name calling? Can't you just call them conservatives? They are people you know.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Nice to see you wvrevy, I haven't seen you in a while...was beginning to wonder where you went off to.


At the risk of opening up a huge can of worms, I have to ask; why do you resort to name calling? Can't you just call them conservatives? They are people you know.

Maybe he doesn't think all Conservatives are Misogynists and wanted to differentiate

 

[wvrevy]

Nice to see you wvrevy, I haven't seen you in a while...was beginning to wonder where you went off to.

Haven't had a lot of time lately. New projects at work and just enjoying the summer at home.

At the risk of opening up a huge can of worms, I have to ask; why do you resort to name calling? Can't you just call them conservatives? They are people you know.

Nah...I call conservatives conservatives. Those two both support organizations that have been tied to really extreme things (including the bombings of abortion clinics). If they were just normal, run-of-the-mill conservatives, I couldn't care less. Everyone has a right to their opinion, after all, and I do like me some Dominos pizza. Unfortunately, though, that's not the case.

 

[sodaseller]

From an e-mail I received:

If you are a Democrat, please ignore this e-mail.

But, if you are remotely happy that today is George Bush's birthday, or planning to support Charlie Crist in the upcoming elections, please consider attending a fundraiser on Monday, July 10 beginning at 5:00 pm. The fundraiser is at the home of the Senior VP of Public Affairs for Disney, Jerry Montgomery, in Celebration, Florida. Also on the host committee is U.S. Senator Mel Martinez.

See the attached invite. Let me know if you'd like to attend. In lieu of attending, if you'd like to send contributions along, I am happy to deliver them. . .

Thanks!

This is the political equivalent of a quasi-endorsement, even permitting his name and company affiliation to be used on the invite

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't care, other than when I have a choice, I prefer that they not use money I spend with them to do it.

Do you make a habit of trying to control what others do with their paychecks just b/c you happen to throw your money at the place of their employment.

Would you like it if people came after you and directed where your personal money should go?


What he did was legal--you have ZERO control and say over anyone's paycheck--especially when they aren't working off of your tax dollars!

 

[wvrevy]

Maybe she doesn't think all Conservatives are Misogynists and wanted to differentiate

Now, Jenny, haven't you and I been around here long enough for you to know that it isn't "she." I mean, geez...lol

 

[JennyMominRI]

Now, Jenny, haven't you and I been around here long enough for you to know that it isn't "she." I mean, geez...lol

I went back and edited my post,but I guess I was too slow

 

[mickeyfan2]

It was his own money and he is allowed to donate it anyway he pleases. How would it be different if I donated $2100? Does the company that I work for get to decide how I donate?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

From an e-mail I received:



This is the political equivalent of a quasi-endorsement, even permitting his name and company affiliation to be used on the invite

So?

When you get high up--your title travels with you.

 

[BuckNaked]

Income working for a corporation. It would be like having someone say they're not going to buy products from my company because they didn't like that I donated to XYZ Foundation. If they're the owner of a company, that's different, but to use income from whatever profession to use as donations, that, IMO, is no reflection of the company's ideals.

ITA that personal donations are not a reflection of the company's ideals. However, and this is just me, when high level executives, whose compensation is often at least partially based on the success of the company, are making donations to causes I don't agree with, I prefer to spend my money elsewhere, if I can get a comparable product at a reasonably comparable price. Iger? Can't find a non-Disney Disney, so I'll just have to say "oh well" and keep spending there.

So, if I donate money to a candidate should the company I work for then be held accountable by opponents of that candidate, since I get my money from my paycheck?

Held accountable? In what way? I think you're making this into much more than it really is. If I was aware that most employees, or as I said before, high level executives, of a company were making donations to causes I don't agree with, I would most likely look for an alternative.

For example, when possible, I avoid spending money at unionized businesses. Of course it's not possible much of the time, but if I know that a business is unionized, and if a good alternative is available, that's the way I go.


It certainly isn't something that I spend a great deal of time on, and it isn't something that I feel so strongly about that I would try to convince others to do the same. It's just one very small way of being aware of what my money goes to.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

Haven't had a lot of time lately. New projects at work and just enjoying the summer at home.

Gotta love summer. I'm trying to enjoy this summer as much as possible. I got married last summer so I didn't enjoy it as much, well, you know, too many things going on.

Nah...I call conservatives conservatives. Those two both support organizations that have been tied to really extreme things (including the bombings of abortion clinics). If they were just normal, run-of-the-mill conservatives, I couldn't care less. Everyone has a right to their opinion, after all, and I do like me some Dominos pizza. Unfortunately, though, that's not the case.

You're right, everyone is has a right to their opinion and I respect that. I had asked only because I know you call President Bush "shrub" and in this thread, "conservative freaks," there may be others, but I'm not sure. Just wondering that's all.

 

[NewJersey]

Held accountable? In what way? I think you're making this into much more than it really is. If I was aware that most employees, or as I said before, high level executives, of a company were making donations to causes I don't agree with, I would most likely look for an alternative.

For example, when possible, I avoid spending money at unionized businesses. Of course it's not possible much of the time, but if I know that a business is unionized, and if a good alternative is available, that's the way I go.


It certainly isn't something that I spend a great deal of time on, and it isn't something that I feel so strongly about that I would try to convince others to do the same. It's just one very small way of being aware of what my money goes to.

I guess that held accountable was the wrong choice of words. I meant held accountable as Jane Smith (you, for example) not doing business with my company since I contributed to a candidate. I agree that it's more far fetched since I don't hold a high executive level job (yet! ) and my paycheck is less based on earnings than a CEO's, but just trying to see where you're coming from.

ot: Catch Bernanke on the Hill at all today? I was watching intently his discussion on the ballooning federal defecit and its impact on the state of the economy and the future.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Does the company that I work for get to decide how I donate?

No, but they certainly can (and often do) make suggestions. Depending on how high up you may be, those suggestions get a little stronger.

Brenda, I'll have to agree with you in regards to someone like Peter Lewis, in that A. while not the "owner", his wealth is almost completely attributable to Progressive and B. his donations have gone way beyond a couple grand to a candidate or two (like Bob Iger's donation).

 

[sodaseller]

So?

When you get high up--your title travels with you.

Not true. I host fundraisers, but would run seriously afoul of my partners if I was identified with my firm, as that would be read by political insiders as a firm affiliation, which we do very rarely and only after a vote. You don't list your corporate affilaition on the invite unless you are affiliating with the campagn

 

[BuckNaked]

Do you make a habit of trying to control what others do with their paychecks just b/c you happen to throw your money at the place of their employment.

First of all, I think you need to calm down - why the hysteria?

I don't care what other people do with their paychecks, and I don't care to whom they donate. But just as they have a right to spend as they see fit, I have a right to spend as I see fit. And if I choose to not spend my money in a way that might help causes with which I disagree, so what? How is that any different than someone giving money to a cause with which they do agree?

Would you like it if people came after you and directed where your personal money should go?

No, I wouldn't, but then again, that's not what I'm doing.

What he did was legal--you have ZERO control and say over anyone's paycheck--especially when they aren't working off of your tax dollars!

Again, why the hysteria? Of course what he did was legal, and of course I have zero control and say over anyone's paycheck. However, I do have control and say over my paycheck, and when feasible, I choose not to direct that money towards places that might support causes with which I disagree.