Please don't throw flames..

[olbear]

I just had to post this info.

I go to First Baptist Church Daytona Beach, Florida. OK put down the torches...LOL!

Well, our pastor told us last week, that this next sunday we were going to be picketed. It's the stupid crazy group that pickets military funerals. Know the one I'm talking about?

Well, I was wondering why they would want to picket us?? Well, you know how some gays dislike what we say about hating the sin but loving the sinner? Well, that is why they are picketing us. Because we chose to preach love instead of the negative and hateful responses that I know so many of you get day to day.

When I was told about this happening, I immediatly thought of this board and the nice people on it that I have come to respect and yes, love! So Vicki and all you prayer warriors out there, please keep us in your prayers this sunday morning. The Ciity Police and State Troopers are supposed to be in place to keep our members from being harrassed and baited. My husband was told that their main aim was to bait people and get them so mad, that they lash out and say or do something stupid so they have a reason for a lawsuit. This is something I hope and pray our membership is above and will stay away from.

Anyway, Thanks for taking the time to read, and I hope you'll be thinking of us. In a good way of course. I know you can get aggravated by some Christians acting so stupid and ill-mannered. But I feel that is truely a loud minority.

Blessings to all,
Winnie

 

[ConcKahuna]

That particular group is full of nutjobs.

Give them what-for for us!

 

[olbear]

That particular group is full of nutjobs.

Give them what-for for us!

Oh my gosh!!! You are so not kidding!! I just checked out their website!! www.godhatesfags.com

It made my blood run cold and I actually felt sick to my stomach. It is morons like these that make the christian community look like idiots!! I am just so upset...unbelieveable!! It is just plastered with outright, no doubt...HATE!!
You guys, I am so so sorry. Please know this is not the heart of most christians.

Bless you all,
Winnie

 

[olbear]

Forgot to add...

When my hubby told me about this, I realized they were the pathetic group that has been picketing the funerals of our fallen hero's. I told my husband, "I wish you still fit in your uniform so you could march proudly right through the thick of them idiots!" He said he would love it. But sadly he has become a growing boy since he retired. LOL!

{{{HUGS}}}
Winnie

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

He could put his cover on and pin any medals he earned to the lapel of his suit jacket.

 

[Viki]

Ugh ... this is really hateful beyond words .... I so get people of faith disagreeing on this issue, but this isn't that .... this is hateful............and evil .......

 

[olbear]

He could put his cover on and pin any medals he earned to the lapel of his suit jacket.

Fantastic idea! I'll tell hubby. And I'll get his medals shined up, he has 3 rows full!!

Yeah, I'm proud!!
Winnie

 

[olbear]

Ugh ... this is really hateful beyond words .... I so get people of faith disagreeing on this issue, but this isn't that .... this is hateful............and evil .......

It sounds like you went to their site...it is the most hateful thing I have seen in my entire life. Honestly.

Keep us prayed up girlfriend!!
Winnie

 

[olbear]

Just found this on their sick site. Calvary is a terrific loving church. And St Paul's Basillica, has some wonderful people as well. I have sang at several weddings there.

I noticed too on their site they call churches for example, Bible Baptist DOG KENNEL...it's like they hate their own brothers and sisters in Christ. Now how sick is that??

Here's what I found. I'm gonna show hubby so we get to church early with him wearing his medal hopefully.

Westboro Baptist Church
(WBC Chronicles -Since 1955)
3701 SW 12tb St. Topeka, Kansas 66604 785-273-0325 www.eodhatesfaes.com
Relieious O~iniona nd Bible Commentan on Current Events
Monday, August 6,2007
NEWS RELEASE
WBC will picket three more Florida Mega-churches
next Sunday, August 12,2004 - in religious protest
and warning: "God is not mocked!" Gal. 6:7. God
Hates Fags! & ***-Enablers! Ergo, God hates these
sodomite *****houses masquerading as churches.
(See, &'eminent place," Ezek. l6:24.) These godless
cash-cows - milked by charlatans called iLpastors" -
are primarily to blame for creating a Satanic
Zeitgeist wherein fags and dykes have prospered to 3
the extent that sodomites now run America.
America's Greedy, Dumb Dogs
God calls these religious snake-oil salesmen dressed
in clerical garb - Blind, Ignorant, Dumb, Lazy, Greedy
Dogs; To wit:
&'His watchmen are blind; they are all ignorant, they
are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying
down, loving to slumber. Yea, they are greedy dogs
which can never have enough, and they are
shepherds that cannot understand; they all look to
their own way, every one for his gain, from his
quarter." Isa. 56:l 0,l 1 .
Florida churches to be picketed Sunday, Aug.12:
8:45 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. First Baptist Church, 118 N. Palmetto Ave.,
Daytona Beach.
10:45 a.m. - 11:30 a. Calvary Christian Center, 1687 W. Granada
Blvd., Ormond Beach.
12:15 p.m. - 1:00 p.m. Basilica of St. Paul, 317 Mullally Street,
Datona Beach.

 

[Chuck S]

So, if I understand olbear, there is nothing "special" happening at her church on Sunday...no funeral, no special services...and these Kansas wingnuts just randomly pick a FL church to go picket? They're picketing just a regular Sunday service?

Sounds like they wanted a FL vacation and needed an excuse to pay for it with tax-free church funds. These kinds of groups need to lose their tax-free status.

 

[olbear]

Hi Chuck,
No nothing special going on sunday at our church. We were told by our pastor that we were picked because we are considered a "mega-church, and one that expounds that even if we don't agree with the homosexual life style, we are commanded to love no matter what.

These nut cases think we're wrong and "dogs" for thinking and believing this way. I guess they expect us to hate no matter what God's word says. Now they are what I would consider hate-mongers and definate "biggots".


Winnie

 

[ConcKahuna]

http://www.godhatesfags.com/writings/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

That's just sad. I guess people can get just about anything out of the Bible if they choose to.

 

[odd1]

http://www.godhatesfags.com/writings/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

That's just sad. I guess people can get just about anything out of the Bible if they choose to.

Which is one reason I have a problem with scripture.

 

[watersbland]

I had to wait till I got home to take a look at their page b/c the firewall at work blocks it out. And for good reason. It's absolute trash in the worst way. I think the sickest thing is the pictures of their small children holding up hate signs at churches and soldiers funerals praying for more soldiers deaths. It honestly made me sick. I showed it to mandie for a brief minute and then we clicked off the page not wanting to give them the satisfaction of even looking at that worthless crap.

I'm sorry that they felt the need to single out your church and I hope that each and every one of your members is able to take the high road and refuses to even acknowledge their presence although I'm not sure if I'd be capable of the same. You are in our thoughts and prayers.

 

[mickeysaver]

Oh Winnie....you and Fred have got to be careful. Part of the way these idiots make money is by picking fights and then filing lawsuits.

I ran into these idiots back in college at UGA at the free speech platform. Fred Phelps & Brother Jed and Sister Cindy.....no matter what the name of the groups that spout this hateful garbage, it's meant to warp minds of the impressionable, instigate hatred and they hope a fight, so that they can get some "free" money.

Go worship on Sunday, but be prepared to keep your emotions in line. I suggest earplugs. Maggie

 

[Boston5602]

I'll have you all in my prayers Sunday morning. even with that group outside I hope you have a great Service!

 

[Chuck S]

Oh Winnie....you and Fred have got to be careful. Part of the way these idiots make money is by picking fights and then filing lawsuits.

I ran into these idiots back in college at UGA at the free speech platform. Fred Phelps & Brother Jed and Sister Cindy.....no matter what the name of the groups that spout this hateful garbage, it's meant to warp minds of the impressionable, instigate hatred and they hope a fight, so that they can get some "free" money.

Go worship on Sunday, but be prepared to keep your emotions in line. I suggest earplugs. Maggie

True, the Phelps clan has several lawyers amongst them...and they use/abuse the legal system.


Please be careful.

 

[Notatourist]

Scare the hell out of them. Invite them in and have the pastor give a sermon on loving everyone. I mean everyone. You be the bigger person and show them Christ's love.

I just recently read "God is not great: How religion spoils everything" by Christopher Hitchens. I recommend it for it's views on religion, but a quote from the book says it all..."When asked if the churches should teach the bible in Spanish-a Texas senator stated 'As long as it's taught in the English that Jesus learned it in, I'm okay with that'".

Need I say more?

 

[ILuvDVC2]

Several years ago when we lived in Chicago, Fred Phelps et. al. protested at the Broadway United Methodist church, which is located in the heart of the gay community. They protested at this church because it was the church where the pastor performed a same-sex commitment ceremony, and not long afterwards the pastor was suspended by the Methodist church leadership because their pastors were forbidden from performing same-sex unions.

We were members of another Methodist congregation, and when we found out Phelps was coming, we formed a "ring of love" around the church by marching around the perimeter of the church so that the membership could attend services. Phelps was contained to a spot across the street from the church by the Chicago Police, but he and his clan spewed such disgusting bile about gays and lesbians that the neighbors who weren't involved in the issue formed a counter-protest to shout down Phelps. It worked! He and the others left within an hour of starting their protest!

He and his family are horrible examples of showing Christian love, and their extreme beliefs are, I'm sure, going to ensure they wind up in the exact opposite place in the afterlife than they think they'll be. JMHO!

 

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Old saying about these kinda people...

Never wrestle with a pig in the mud. You will both get dirty and the pig likes it that way. ​

So sorry your church is going to be going through one of these side-shows. Maybe, if you are lucky, nobody will show up.