Pet peeves I saw today at Magic Kingdom

[In a hurry]

That's very honest Cardaway and brings up a good point....WE ALL peeve someone off at sometime! It's natural!!

I am a very good person, with ethics and kindness and I teach my kids the same but I too, like Cardaway, see that I do things that others think are wrong! From this thread, it isn't even all about what you do but it might be what you don't do or even what you wear! Silly!

I promise, next month when my family and I are holidaying at DW, we are going to try hard to not piss you off but please, if we do, just extend a little grace and forgive us! It was not intentional!

You are so right. No one is perfect, because there isn't any proven list of "perfect!" Bestowing grace, tolerance, and patience go a long way in improving a vacation!

 

[HoneyPooh]

A previous poster mentioned a magic button to push to make annoying people disappear. If we had one of those, eventually there wouldn't be anyone left to press the button. Everyone is going to annoy someone at some point.

For myself, my pet peeves change on a daily basis depending on my mood. Some days something will not annoy me at all and other days I will see red over the same thing.

 

[AnaheimGirl]

No restaurant (even your local McDonald's) has the expectation they will ever have enough seating for every customer who comes through at a busy time. In a CS situation like we are discussing, the kitchen and cashiers can run a new order through every 3-5 minutes. The average family will take 25-30 minutes (minimum) to 45-50 minutes to get toppings, eat and clean up. If the theory the CM espoused was accurate, they would need a table for 6 - 9 families for every family already at a table. I am not sure there is a place big enough to build a restaurant with enough seating for everyone when the place is busy.

I'm not in the restaurant business, but I think you're mistaken on one mathematical point. A restaurant wouldn't need 6-9 tables for every family already at a table (unless it happened to be the first 5 minutes the place was open). Using your numbers, they would need 6-9 tables for every cash register (excluding the one used for drive-through). And yea, just about every counter service restaurant in my area (and from my recollection, even those at Disney) has at least that many tables, other than those little window places intended primarily for take-away.

Even so, I agree that no CS restaurant likely expects to have a seat available immediately for every single customer as soon as they get their food, at their busiest times. That would be impractical. But it is a fact that when a member of a group occupies a table in a CS restaurant for the additional, say 5-30 minutes the rest of their party is in line, ordering and collecting their food, this is over and above the 25-50 minutes you mentioned. Thus, you'd need to add another 1-6 tables per cash register to handle all customers if everyone did it at busy times.

In any event, I think if there is any flawed logic here, it's that of using "there aren't enough tables anyway", as justification to occupy them for even longer. That makes no sense.

As stated many times in this thread, everyone needs to be courtious. That goes both ways too: If you are holding a table, please eat and clean up as quickly as possible; If you are looking for a table and have food in your hand, don't automatically assume evryone else is rude just because they are sitting waiting for their food.

I don't necessarily think people intend to be rude when they're doing this. I know a lot of people don't even think about what they're doing. They've been walking around the park all day, are tired and want to sit down, so they grab a seat while dad gets the food. Keeping strollers or unruly kids out of lines is a good reason, too. The rude ones are the ones you see walking in, looking around, saying "wow, it's crowded -- quick, grab that table right there, it's the only one left. Or, using the McDonald's scenario, they see that there is only one table left near the playplace, scope out the line to see if there are kids in it, and decide accordingly to grab the table before the other family has the chance. And yes, I have witnessed and overheard the conversations, so I know some (not all) people do this for selfish reasons.

We live in a very "me first" society. I think if everyone would think of others every once in a while, many of us would realize we are doing something "rude" to someone else too. It's all based on the perspective you are viewing it from.

I agree. Which is why I like these kinds of threads. I have recognized myself in them on occasion, and have changed my behavior once I realized that it was bothersome to other people.

 

[PixieDust32]

Equidae - I LOVE your picture!!!!!

I, too, am losing my tolerance for rude people. What is with society nowadays? Why do people think the rules don't apply to them?

Here's another BIG Disney pet peeve - people who walk up to watch a parade 5 minutes before it starts and expect to get up to the front! Or they just send their child up to the front with the "Can she just sit in front of you? She's only 3!" line. Hey, if ya'll wanted to see the parade, you should have been here an hour ago like the rest of us!

Oh god yes! I normally don't care what others do or don't at WDW, we go there to have fun, and we careless about others.

But this is one of them, the parade spots, it happends all the time we go, we save our spots an hour ahead, we sit there and wait and wait in the 105 d. florida heat, and I hate ( I normally don't "hate" at WDW) when the parade is about to start and people just push and stand in front of you, or send the little kids to stand in front of my kids, I am so sorry, but NO!

And the other one is the nasty habit of "smoking" it drives me crazy, I do respect if people want to smoke cancer sticks, but WE DON'T, so please don't do it around others.

 

[PixieDust32]

Other than that, I don't care if people talk on their phones, or don't have change, or what they wear, we are to busy having fun.

 

[mickeysgal]

The rude ones are the ones you see walking in, looking around, saying "wow, it's crowded -- quick, grab that table right there, it's the only one left. Or, using the McDonald's scenario, they see that there is only one table left near the playplace, scope out the line to see if there are kids in it, and decide accordingly to grab the table before the other family has the chance. And yes, I have witnessed and overheard the conversations, so I know some (not all) people do this for selfish reasons.

I fail to see how this is rude. If we walk into a counter service restaurant and see that its crowded, one of us will stand in line to order and the other will take the kids to find a table. If we find one, we sit down. We don't do an inventory to see if its the only one available or one of 25 available. If we don't find one we keep looking and sit at the first one that we find that can accomodate our family. How in the world can this possibly be rude? Sometimes it takes the entire ordering time to find a table with enough chairs. We don't hover over people that we "think" are almost done (now thats rude!).

Again, if this appears that we are holding a table for "too long" while the other adult is standing in line, ordering, and waiting for food, then this is Disney's problem. They need to open up more lines and add more staff to move things along.

 

[Talking Hands]

"Originally Posted by k5thbeatle
2. Not to be rude, but guests who are in electric wheel chairs, and proceed to run over everyone's feet in front of them. That HURTS! A simple 'excuse me' would do just fine. Being in a wheel chair is not an excuse to cause harm to others.

The above was originally posted by myself, byt the way. I understand that most ECV users may not be discourteous. But some are. When someone is intentionally is coming towards you, looking at you, and runs into you (ECV, wheelchair, or none at all)...that is not an accident. I, myself, try to stay out of the way and let those who use wheelchairs, etc. pass me first. I understand it is tough to navigate ones way in an ECV with a crowd full of people who have no regard for the those around them.

What about those people on foot who just continue coming straight for you and fall on top of the person in the wheelchair. I have been completely stoped and had this happen and there was plenty of room for the person to go to the side. BTW it is a lot easier for a person on foot to veer to the side than a person on a Disney ECV. Those things are a bear to drive.

 

[AnaheimGirl]

I fail to see how this is rude. If we walk into a counter service restaurant and see that its crowded, one of us will stand in line to order and the other will take the kids to find a table. If we find one, we sit down. We don't do an inventory to see if its the only one available or one of 25 available. If we don't find one we keep looking and sit at the first one that we find that can accomodate our family. How in the world can this possibly be rude? Sometimes it takes the entire ordering time to find a table with enough chairs. We don't hover over people that we "think" are almost done (now thats rude!).

Again, if this appears that we are holding a table for "too long" while the other adult is standing in line, ordering, and waiting for food, then this is Disney's problem. They need to open up more lines and add more staff to move things along.

It's been explained ad nauseum why this is considered by some to be rude. If you still fail to understand why (especially in those specific circumstances that you quoted), I'm sorry, I don't think I can help.

And opening more lines won't solve anything. That would just put more people like me out there with you looking for those tables sooner. So while you'd be occupying the table a shorter period of time, there would be more people needing tables at the same time in general. If Disney really wanted to do something about it, more tables would be the answer.

But again, I'm a little confused on the logic here. Since when does the fact that Disney doesn't do anything about it give people license to disregard the needs of others? If one of those last-minute parade watchers posted that "if it appears that I haven't waited long enough for the privilege of watching a parade from an empty square of sidewalk in front of someone else, then it's Disney's problem and they should have assigned parade seating", there would be an uproar.

ETA: I just looked back at this post, and realize my first paragraph sounds really snotty. Sorry, I didn't really mean it as bad as it sounds, but I can't think of a better way to say it right now.

 

[mickeysgal]

It's been explained ad nauseum why this is considered by some to be rude. If you still fail to understand why (especially in those specific circumstances that you quoted), I'm sorry, I don't think I can help you.

And opening more lines won't solve anything. That would just put more people like me out there with you looking for those tables sooner. So while you'd be occupying the table a shorter period of time, there would be more people needing tables at the same time in general. If Disney really wanted to do something about it, more tables would be the answer.

But again, I'm a little confused on the logic here. Since when does the fact that Disney doesn't do anything about it give people license to disregard the needs of others? If one of those last-minute parade watchers posted that "if it appears that I haven't waited long enough for the privilege of watching a parade from an empty square of sidewalk in front of someone else, then it's Disney's problem and they should have assigned parade seating", there would be an uproar.

No, you're right. You probably can't help me because I'm not going to go to a counter service restaurant and clog up the ordering lines or the entrance area with my entire family. Where else do you want people to go? Stand outside? No, that would congest the door area. Stand as a group in the order line? The entrance area? Can't you see how so quickly congested this would get? Then we'd have people that would be complaining about how rude it is for people to be bottlenecking these areas and why can't they just go sit down. I honestly do not feel it is rude or unreasonable that people send one person to order and the rest step aside and get settled so that others can get in there and order food. And yes, getting settled means finding your table. If adding more tables would help, then by all means, they should do that too. Much like the grocery store, if the lines are too long, you would expect them to open up another register or do whatever it takes to handle the crowd. We're talking about seat yourself, Counter Service, not reservations-only restaurants where we muscle our way in and sit at a table with no reservations or worse yet, run to "someones" table and take someone's reservation. Gosh...I'm almost afraid to ask but when are people allowed to get their condiments together such as napkins, straws, ketchup? I'm unclear...should it be before the order, after the order but before the table hunt, or after the order and after the table hunt or would that be considered holding a table because technically no one has started eating yet. Good grief!!

 

[kitn]

I will never understand why people will get on a packed, bus with sleepy children, then get angry when they aren't offered a seat.

At the end of the day we're all tired. If you must sit, why not wait for the next bus or hop in a cab?

I've seen plenty of people step to the side and wait for the next bus, rather than stand.

Well due to the fast that most bus stops in the park have no place to sit, I would be one of those parents taking cranky tired children on a packed bus. It may take 25 minutes or so for the next bus.

 

[AnaheimGirl]

No, you're right. You probably can't help me because I'm not going to go to a counter service restaurant and clog up the ordering lines or the entrance area with my entire family. Where else do you want people to go? Stand outside? No, that would congest the door area. Stand as a group in the order line? The entrance area? Can't you see how so quickly congested this would get? Then we'd have people that would be complaining about how rude it is for people to be bottlenecking these areas and why can't they just go sit down. I honestly do not feel it is rude or unreasonable that people send one person to order and the rest step aside and get settled so that others can get in there and order food. And yes, getting settled means finding your table. If adding more tables would help, then by all means, they should do that too. Much like the grocery store, if the lines are too long, you would expect them to open up another register or do whatever it takes to handle the crowd. We're talking about seat yourself, Counter Service, not reservations-only restaurants where we muscle our way in and sit at a table with no reservations or worse yet, run to "someones" table and take someone's reservation. Gosh...I'm almost afraid to ask but when are people allowed to get their condiments together such as napkins, straws, ketchup? I'm unclear...should it be before the order, after the order but before the table hunt, or after the order and after the table hunt or would that be considered holding a table because technically no one has started eating yet. Good grief!!

LOL! Good Grief yourself! The vast majority of people in every CS restaurant I've ever been in, the whole group waits in line and no, it doesn't clog up the ordering lines or the entryways. Just of the top of my head, every time I've ever been in Tusker House, ABC Commissary or Cosmic Ray's, there has been tons of empty space behind the ordering lines, even when every table is taken. It has never been an issue, IME. Your experience might be different, and if so, then I guess you have to make the choice. Personally, I'd rather deal with crowded lines than with carrying a tray of food through a restaurant looking for an empty table.

 

[mickeysgal]

LOL! Good Grief yourself! The vast majority of people in every CS restaurant I've ever been in, the whole group waits in line and no, it doesn't clog up the ordering lines or the entryways. Just of the top of my head, every time I've ever been in Tusker House, ABC Commissary or Cosmic Ray's, there has been tons of empty space behind the ordering lines, even when every table is taken. It has never been an issue, IME. Your experience might be different, and if so, then I guess you have to make the choice. Personally, I'd rather deal with crowded lines than with carrying a tray of food through a restaurant looking for an empty table.

I think we have agreed to disagree. I do see your point and I hope you can see mine. The place that comes to mind that needs more tables, like you pointed out, is not at so much at Disney, but at Sea World - specifically the Hospitality House. That place is short on seating for how popular this CS restaurant has become.

 

[fancythemouse]

okay okay people break it up, this is in fact a pet peeves thread NOT a debate/arguement thread. Keep the peeves coming....

 

[dianeschlicht]

How about those folks who stop at the top of a moving escalator (like at the Land in Epcot). In case you didn't know, folks, there is a whole stairway of moving people headed into your backside, and you better move it or lose it!

Another is those folks who can't seem to get the ticket thing down. Put the ticket in BEFORE you put the fingers in!!!

 

[Rafikifan]

As far as the table saving goes, I can why one adult with a 4 year old can't leave the child unattended at the table and it would be a pain to not be able to find a table. But, I've never been in a fast food place where a whole family would stand in line to order and NOT get a table without getting crazy looks for clogging up the ordering area.
And come to think of it, if one adult with one child were to be upset to see my family of 5's table being occupied while dh orders, that means that if we weren't sitting there their party of 2 would take up a table for 5/6? Wouldn't that be considered to be rude?

 

[tony609]

My friends pet peeve is the autograph books...how most of the time there not ready for the characters to sign etc...and the character handler has just given the 3 minute "Pooh is going to leave and get ready for the parade" call out...and after you've waited 15 minutes in 100+ heat..they only get thru 3 more people because of those autograph books. My friend thinks auograph books should be limited to character meals...I don't know how i feel about that. Any thoughts?

 

[Joanna71985]

I sort of do. I agree that it takes a great deal of time for the books, but some people (solo people and some families with only a little time) may not be able to make it to a character meal. So I'm half and half.

 

[AnaheimGirl]

I've never been in a fast food place where a whole family would stand in line to order and NOT get a table without getting crazy looks for clogging up the ordering area.

AHA!!! So, it is a regional thing after all! This is probably why there is such a difference of opinion. It all depends on the norm that you are used to.

Mickeysgal, thanks for the nice response. Yes I can see your point of view, too. I really don't think table saving is a horrible thing. I don't like it, but I'm not glaring and muttering under my breath at people who do it, really I'm not!

I haven't been to Sea World Orlando yet, so I'll try to remember to avoid the Hospitality House when I go there.

Thanks

 

[mickeysgal]

AHA!!! So, it is a regional thing after all! This is probably why there is such a difference of opinion. It all depends on the norm that you are used to.

Mickeysgal, thanks for the nice response. Yes I can see your point of view, too. I really don't think table saving is a horrible thing. I don't like it, but I'm not glaring and muttering under my breath at people who do it, really I'm not!

I haven't been to Sea World Orlando yet, so I'll try to remember to avoid the Hospitality House when I go there.

Thanks

By all means, don't avoid the Hospitality Center at Sea World. Although its tough to get a table, the food is great and this is where you get the free beer samples.

Ok...back to pet peeves...

 

[Tinkerbell10403]

Personally, if people would be ready w/ their books and pens out, it would not be a problem. I'm 20 and love to get autographs of characters...and I always will. Its fun to see how many you can get..or even ones you have not gotten before. I go pretty often, so no, I don't want Pooh's autograph 50 times. If you are preapred, then I see no reason for it to be a problem.