People Never cease to AMAZE me. Stay safe.

[JW9DVC]

In April of 2016 myself and my family were going on a Disney Cruise aboard the fantasy. We joined the Fish Extender group here on the DIS. We found out that they also had a cruise fan page setup on Facebook. It was great, until we had the one.

This one person went on and joined every group possible on Facebook. She was always asking questions and if she didn't get the answer she was looking for, would re ask the question in mostly the same way. She was supposedly traveling alone and according to her leaving a sick mother at home.

About 2 weeks before our April 30th cruise, she advised everyone that her mother had passed. We all said our sympathies and moved on from the situation. She had become friends with many people who believed what I was beginning to think was all made up and an attention seeker. She wanted to have a celebration of life for her mother passing during the cruise meet up. Have a cake and all. Since we all deal with these situations I suggested that she maybe had it during another time with her closer friends.

I was called heartless because of this, was removed from the group and called a debbie downer. My wife was also removed and what we thought would be great people, turned out weren't so nice. We had met with a few and still remain friends, just many took this womans side.

Well, long story short, I was right. This woman faked her mothers death and situation in genera, attempted to get credit card information from these new friends and should honestly seek some sort of medical treatment in my belief. it was reported later right after the cruise that she had ruined some of her new close friends birthday celebration at Palo. She was invited and or pushed herself into the mix. Screen names can change, so if anyone needs that info, PM ME.


Long story short, be mindful of the information you share with your new friends, this person was able to get over 50 people to believe her lies and in some ways, ruined what should have been a magical time for many.


JW

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Very bad, this does occur. When you have groups here or on other social media people will abuse it, and people do not understand or want to understand things.
Some have very strong views, so when the truth is staring them in the eyes, they just put thier gingers in their ears and ignore it.
There is a lot of liars around, some who pretend to be who they are not, or try to commit fraud, some who, for company , will get into conversations here but never actually done what thry are talking about.
I feel very sorry for you, it's had a major effect on you, people forget this, stand up, be strong, dust yourself off and move on.you know you were correct, and the sad thing is the others ignored you.
Some people can be very convincing fifty were taken in in your group, a lot can depend on checks your social media group make on people joining, that can be hard, but that's life unfortunately, some will storm in, be very convincing, and do massive damage.

 

[Hundredacre]

In April of 2016 myself and my family were going on a Disney Cruise aboard the fantasy. We joined the Fish Extender group here on the DIS. We found out that they also had a cruise fan page setup on Facebook. It was great, until we had the one.

This one person went on and joined every group possible on Facebook. She was always asking questions and if she didn't get the answer she was looking for, would re ask the question in mostly the same way. She was supposedly traveling alone and according to her leaving a sick mother at home.

About 2 weeks before our April 30th cruise, she advised everyone that her mother had passed. We all said our sympathies and moved on from the situation. She had become friends with many people who believed what I was beginning to think was all made up and an attention seeker. She wanted to have a celebration of life for her mother passing during the cruise meet up. Have a cake and all. Since we all deal with these situations I suggested that she maybe had it during another time with her closer friends.

I was called heartless because of this, was removed from the group and called a debbie downer. My wife was also removed and what we thought would be great people, turned out weren't so nice. We had met with a few and still remain friends, just many took this womans side.

Well, long story short, I was right. This woman faked her mothers death and situation in genera, attempted to get credit card information from these new friends and should honestly seek some sort of medical treatment in my belief. it was reported later right after the cruise that she had ruined some of her new close friends birthday celebration at Palo. She was invited and or pushed herself into the mix. Screen names can change, so if anyone needs that info, PM ME.


Long story short, be mindful of the information you share with your new friends, this person was able to get over 50 people to believe her lies and in some ways, ruined what should have been a magical time for many.


JW

Pretty cool that you went with your gut and stood up to her. That's not always easy to do.

 

[JW9DVC]

Very bad, this does occur. When you have groups here or on other social media people will abuse it, and people do not understand or want to understand things.
Some have very strong views, so when the truth is staring them in the eyes, they just put thier gingers in their ears and ignore it.
There is a lot of liars around, some who pretend to be who they are not, or try to commit fraud, some who, for company , will get into conversations here but never actually done what thry are talking about.
I feel very sorry for you, it's had a major effect on you, people forget this, stand up, be strong, dust yourself off and move on.you know you were correct, and the sad thing is the others ignored you.
Some people can be very convincing fifty were taken in in your group, a lot can depend on checks your social media group make on people joining, that can be hard, but that's life unfortunately, some will storm in, be very convincing, and do massive damage.

Yeah. Luckily we weren't led to believe the info. We just tried letting others know it was a little over bearing. During the palo dinner I guess she erupted in tears that her father had passed away while on the cruise as well. Sick people. Just a warning. Thanks for the response.

 

[JW9DVC]

Pretty cool that you went with your gut and stood up to her. That's not always easy to do.

Thank you, just thought I would share as this is an awesome group of very giving people. Sometimes though the good get taken advantage of.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Yeah. Luckily we weren't led to believe the info. We just tried letting others know it was a little over bearing. During the palo dinner I guess she erupted in tears that her father had passed away while on the cruise as well. Sick people. Just a warning. Thanks for the response.

I am sorry this person had a major effect on you and your plans, people who do this do not care or understand the effect.

 

[Bettyscruise]

Thanks for sharing. In what context did she ask anyone's credit card info?

 

[n2mm]

Thanks for sharing, yes there are people like this. While not the same level, I belong to a leftover FB page. There was actually people who joined who were locals and would basically do their grocery shopping by responding to everyone leftover offers. Even taking the strollers.

Here at home, a friend (who lives pay check to pay check - barely -- and gets USG help), recently helped a woman who said she was collecting baby clothes to help a family who lost everything in a fire. So while my friend was going to have a yard sale to get a few dollars to help buy clothes for her own children gave bags of baby clothes to this woman to help, found out days later that this person did this to collect items to have a yard sale for herself and there was no family needing help.....

 

[cpete]

Thank you for the reminder that we must be mindful in all situations. It is good to recognize and stay away from those experiences that feel off to us. Thanks for sharing.

 

[BigredNole]

There are scammers and schemers everywhere. I would not be surprised if the cruise was booked with stolen money as well. She probably has Kickstarter campaigns and GoFund me pages up everywhere as well. They weasel in, scam, and steal credit card data as well.

 

[TrySomethingNew]

Thanks for the reminder. Through your whole recount I could think of different people I've encountered who have done each of these things, including busting out in tears during someone else's special time-just to refocus the attention on themselves. However, I've never encountered such thorough efforts in such a concentrated time frame by one person! So, congratulations on avoiding her attempts, but sorry for you and your wife that the experience of the cruise and the social group was unpleasant.

 

[FamilyHolidayPlanner]

She wanted to have a celebration of life for her mother passing during the cruise meet up. Have a cake and all.

I can't believe other people agreed to this. Call me heartless, but I don't go on vacation to mourn people I've never met.

 

[phinz]

I can't believe other people agreed to this. Call me heartless, but I don't go on vacation to mourne people I've never met.

For some reason some people lie awake at night worrying about people they don't even know. I've tried to understand it but can't. I don't know if it's schadenfreude or what, but some people have to be this way. I have friends like this and it's just beyond me.

 

[wcw57]

a while back there was a post from a VERY new member, purporting to be from some country which rendered her command of the English language as limited.
She asked some really rather personal questions regarding woman-type things which were clearly not suitable for these boards and easily solved by using google and/or watching any daytime television ads.
People responded generously and seriously...to their credit, I guess. I pointed out the obvious and got in trouble.....maybe it wasn't my job.
anyhow, the point being, people of Disney cruises want to believe in the magic, the spirit, and the basic goodness of people. My age and experiences deny me the luxury of taking people at face value.
kinda sad, huh?
not really, sez I

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

I can't believe other people agreed to this. Call me heartless, but I don't go on vacation to mourn people I've never met.

Agree,

It's great the OP stood up for what they believe in, and whilst there was a heard mentality of people who were friends not believing, the OP was correct.

Just because a few think your wrong, believe in what your saying for the common good, all too often the correct voice is drowned out by so called self appointed experts.

This is one place maybe the OP didn't want to be proven correct, as it hurt others, but it's down to respecting everyone's views.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

a while back there was a post from a VERY new member, purporting to be from some country which rendered her command of the English language as limited.
She asked some really rather personal questions regarding woman-type things which were clearly not suitable for these boards and easily solved by using google and/or watching any daytime television ads.
People responded generously and seriously...to their credit, I guess. I pointed out the obvious and got in trouble.....maybe it wasn't my job.
anyhow, the point being, people of Disney cruises want to believe in the magic, the spirit, and the basic goodness of people. My age and experiences deny me the luxury of taking people at face value.
kinda sad, huh?
not really, sez I

I recall that...

 

[wcw57]

btw, is the timing of this thread and some other thread just a coincidence?

 

[NS8VN]

Reminds me of a situation I watched unfold last year. Was working in financial services (have since gotten out of the industry and founded an unrelated business) and was at a retreat. One of the featured guests of the retreat was a newer rep from Texas who was really lighting up the board. She also came with a bit of a sob story, single mother that has been kicked around by life. She was very uncouth, loud, obnoxious, and I got a pretty negative vibe from her right away. She was making sales though so everyone wanted to talk to her and get ideas. On the way home my supervisor and I discussed our mutual distrust of her, but the higher ups had her on conference calls and were just overjoyed with her numbers. Then one week all references to her ceased.

We found out a few months later that many of her sales were faked, she walked away from the company with tens of thousands in commissions before being found out. She managed to convince people who are the top of a sales industry that the warning signs were not real. That whole fiasco happened when I already had one foot out the door and certainly helped my other foot cross the threshold.

I'm not saying I can't be fooled, I have an ex-gf or two that prove that I can be. I am just less willing to be swayed by a sympathetic crowd than others I suppose. Between my RN wife and I we are pretty good at acknowledging tragic events and then mentally distancing ourselves from them. Maybe it comes from having the internet for over half my life now, between non-stop news feeds and understanding that Nigeria is a Federal Republic that doesn't have a prince. The way I am though, in JW's place I would have voluntarily left the group before suggesting against anything. I'm not going to stop people from being sympathetic but I have nothing to add and it does not help me or anybody to keep reading. Just as I ignored any conversation on the forum about any recent happenings at the Grand Floridian...

 

[MaleficentRN]

I've been on various boards and forums for over 16 years and have seen all kinds of crazy. Faked illness, faked suicide, faked pregnancy. Some wanted money, some wanted attention, some wanted...I don't even know what.Unless I know you IRL, you won't be my Facebook friend or know my phone number and I for sure am not sending you money.

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

I am glad you were able to get out when you did. How sad people groom others in this way. Leaping on their good nature. Then you are accused of being awful if you smell a rat. I was recently nearly had myself by a sob story. I am an intelligent person. I managed to just spot it in time like OP. Something just didn't sit right with something they said and I checked it. Good reminder that there are bad people out there. Awful the others cast you out by just suggesting it didn't seem right though.