pediatrician vs nurse practiitoner

My pediatrician has 2 NP's that work with him and they are fine, but if my kids are really sick I insist on seeing the Dr. I am an R.N, and I have a lot of respect for NP's but I'm sorry the skill level is just not the same. Experience is important but education is too. Every MD office I have been to charges the same rate no matter who sees the patient and I think that is wrong. If I have to pay the same amount, then I want the most qualified person.
 
For a yearly checkup I'm fine with the NP. in our office. Although she just quit so I'm not sure if they'll be replacing her? If I have an "issue" though I generally prefer to see a Doctor- if it's something out of the ordinary. Diagnosing an ear infection doesn't take 3 years of med school. imho. My college roommate is a NP. She took about 2 years worth of post graduate classes to qualify. She also has been in the trenches- (of the hospital) for several years. So to me I'd be fine going to her.
 
I'm very upset with my insurance carrier right now because they will not cover NP's in practice by themselves :sad2:

I finally found a PCP that I like and she is very good, she happens to be an NP and she was in practice with a large group of MD's and NP's however she and another NP decided to leave the practice and start up on there own. The one insurance company that will not cover them... mine!!! :mad:

That being said, I would rather see those NP's than the MD's and OD's that are still at the practice I have been going to for years. I want my NP!
 
I dont use a ped, we all go to the same family practice. There are two dr's and 1 np. The NP typically gets the same day sick appointment call ins, but can do the well visits. I really like Beth ( the NP) and would rather the kids see her to the other dr in the practice who I cannot stand ( though will see since hes the only one to do some procedures that I have had done).
 

I would cancel and wait for the real Dr. I have at times seen a NP but when I want to make an appt with a real Dr I expect them to make that appt. I am willing to see a NP when I have strep, bronchitis and things like that but when it is something more concerning to me I want a DR. I pay for a Dr and that is who I want to see....

I totally agree. This is the one thing that really bugs me about my doctor and her office. Sometimes I'll make an appointment for a sick child and I get a NP and I was never even warned about it. I go in and that is when I find out. I would like to know ahead of time.

I can understand sometimes for the small things but if it's more serious, I want the doctor.

Once we took my very sick daughter in for throwing up, diarrhea, not peeing or pee looking different (she only has one kidney) and the NP just thought she had a stomach bug and put her on antibiotics and sent us on our way. She only got worse. Took her to the ER and found out she had Ecoli and her kidney was failing. :(

A stool test would have diagnosed this but oh well.

Now, this could happen to any nurse/doctor I guess but it has tainted my opinion and I much prefer my daughter be seen by a doctor whenever possible.
 
I work in a practice of all CRNP's and it's great. We have a dr. who is our "medical director" but she never sets foot in our office and doesn't have anything to do with our practice (other than the check she collects each month!). She is not required to co-sign anything or oversee our patients. And she's not needed to do that. The NP's are highly trained and they don't just do the "simple" cases....how insulting to say that. They do everything the doctor does, but the main advantage (our patients say anyway) is that they take more time and listen better. If our NP feels they would benefit from a specialist, she'll send them out, just like the doctor would. In fact, sometimes she is quicker to do that than some doctors who feel they can handle everything. Sometimes we have patients who question the difference between a doctor and an NP and I have a difficult time answering that because for all practical purposes there isn't much difference. I'm sure that's not the case everywhere, it will depend on the various skill sets each possess.

Oh, and our NP's are all women and we've had maybe a handful of adolescent boys and men who aren't comfortable with that. I respect that but most are able to be mature enough to get past it. Personally I feel like it's payback for all the years I had to see a man gyn! :rotfl:

As far as the original question, if you are scheduling your appointments far enough out I don't understand why you shouldn't be able to ask for the practitioner you prefer. :confused3 If it's a sick visit, you take whoever's available, but you should be able to book with your preferred provider for an appt that is weeks later. If they don't allow that, I'd be moving on if seeing the ped is important to you.
Seeing a male vs. female is a personal preference, not a level of maturity. I would NEVER see a female OB/GYN. It's too weird! :scared1:

I saw a few PAs in my doc's office in FL as they would come and go. One managed to mistakenly change the dosage of one of the meds I was taking. :scared1: Thank goodness it was for less than I should have been taking. But there was an ARNP in our FL pediatrician's office who was very good. But I wouldn't ever request to see her.
 
My pediatrician has 2 NP's that work with him and they are fine, but if my kids are really sick I insist on seeing the Dr. I am an R.N, and I have a lot of respect for NP's but I'm sorry the skill level is just not the same. Experience is important but education is too. Every MD office I have been to charges the same rate no matter who sees the patient and I think that is wrong. If I have to pay the same amount, then I want the most qualified person.
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I think one thing that is important to remember is there are good md's and bad md's ( i have seen many many posts here about bad experiences with md's).and good np's and bad np's.
I think you have to be comfortable with the practitioner you choose whatever their letters behind their name.
but don't make assumptions without fully knowing. you could be very pleasantly surprised. that is all :)
 
I totally agree. This is the one thing that really bugs me about my doctor and her office. Sometimes I'll make an appointment for a sick child and I get a NP and I was never even warned about it. I go in and that is when I find out. I would like to know ahead of time.

I can understand sometimes for the small things but if it's more serious, I want the doctor.

Once we took my very sick daughter in for throwing up, diarrhea, not peeing or pee looking different (she only has one kidney) and the NP just thought she had a stomach bug and put her on antibiotics and sent us on our way. She only got worse. Took her to the ER and found out she had Ecoli and her kidney was failing. :(

A stool test would have diagnosed this but oh well.

Now, this could happen to any nurse/doctor I guess but it has tainted my opinion and I much prefer my daughter be seen by a doctor whenever possible.
Wow! I'm so sorry you had that happen! I hope you got back to your pediatrician on that experience. He/she would definitely want to know.
 
The Family practice that my husband and I go to have NP's and so does the kids pediatrician. We never see them. I work in an ER that has both and have decided that we will only ever see the MD. This goes for well and sick visits. if they try to give me an NP appointment, I politely decline and ask for a aptmt with the physicians. It's not a problem. The patient is the consumer. We have had the same practices for 20 yrs and 16 yrs respectively.
 
Wow! I'm so sorry you had that happen! I hope you got back to your pediatrician on that experience. He/she would definitely want to know.

Thank you. Oh, yes she knew/knows. They had to be notified when we went to the ER and then were transferred to Children's Hospital. She felt horrible, which, IMHO, she should have.

There have been many follow up visits since and annual visits to Children's hospital since it happened in 2002. She now needs her blood pressure and urine checked and an ultrasound once a year till she is 18 to make sure her kidney is growing properly.
 
I think one thing that is important to remember is there are good md's and bad md's ( i have seen many many posts here about bad experiences with md's).and good np's and bad np's.
I think you have to be comfortable with the practitioner you choose whatever their letters behind their name.
but don't make assumptions without fully knowing. you could be very pleasantly surprised. that is all :)


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I have two different experience with NP's.

A friend of mine doesn't take her children to see anyone but the NP in her ped clinic. I don't agree with a lot of what the NP does just because my friend requests it. For instance, calling in a antibiotic "just to be safe" because they are going on vacation in a few days and my friend doesn't want her kids to get sick. She has also called in meds just going by what my friend tells her the symptoms over the phone (and we are not talking about something the kids have had over and over that can be easily recognized) and she has administered shots because my friend requests it when the children have certain illnesses. And let me add that my friend can sometimes be something of a hypochondriac.

Now, at the clinic that me, my husband and my adult sons go to; I would prefer to see the NP. The NP is male and he looks like he is about 12 years old! But he does take his time and he listens to every thing you say to him. We all really like him and trust him. There is also another person in that clinic that sees patients, but I am not sure exactly what his degree or title is (he is not a MD or a NP); he is also excellent. My son saw him for some back problems he was having and that he had seen a couple of the dr.'s for. This guy explained exactly what was happening and exactly what ds needed to do to help it.

So, I would say that NP's, Dr's or anyone else in a clinic can be just as different as anyone in any other profession and it all depends on how you feel about the one your child is seeing. If you prefer the dr., then I would request the dr.
 
Our pediatrician has a few MDs and several NPs. My daughter hasn't actually seen the pediatrician for years. The practice has one NP that my daughter absolutely ADORES and she refuses to see anyone else. I have no problem with the NP handling all of her care. Any time there has been any issue she has been very responsive about referring to specialists, etc. She was the one that diagnosed by daughters ADHD and Tourette's Syndrome and referred her to a pediatric neurologist. When my daughter fainted, she immediately referred to a pediatric cardiologist. I trust her without question, and when setting up any appointment we specifically ask for her.:thumbsup2
 
My nurse practitioner was SO thorough...When I was referred to a specialist, they said that she had done every test that I needed and then some! They were very impressed...
 
Thank you. Oh, yes she knew/knows. They had to be notified when we went to the ER and then were transferred to Children's Hospital. She felt horrible, which, IMHO, she should have.

There have been many follow up visits since and annual visits to Children's hospital since it happened in 2002. She now needs her blood pressure and urine checked and an ultrasound once a year till she is 18 to make sure her kidney is growing properly.
That's true. The ER would have notified them. Prayers for your DD that she keeps improving! Bless her heart.

Not anywhere near your experience, but I just thought about a time when DS fell and had a cut on the outside corner of an eye. Called the pediatrician's office who had us drive right there. Saw one of the ARNPs who thought it needed sutures and told me to take him to the hospital. At the hospital, they said they wouldn't place sutures because it would be a traumatic thing for him at the age he was. They butterflied it. Gee...the doc's office could have done that! I received notification from the insurance company that they weren't covering the ER visit. Geez. I wrote back to them and informed them that we went to the doctor's originally, and that the ARNP TOLD us to go to the ER with it. They paid after that.
 
I have mixed feelings on NP's. My grandkids all go to the same pediatrician's office and they have an NP. I really like her and she caught an ear infection that the regular pediatrician missed. My DGS fell in January and needed stitches in his forehead. My DD took him to the ER and an NP was assigned to his care. He had 7 stitches put in and by the next day 3 had fallen out. He has an ugly scar now. I know he would have had a scar anyway but even his pediatrician was upset by the circumstances. We have since learned that even though the hospital closest to us is classified as a trauma center they have no pediatricians in the ER. We will travel the extra 20 minutes to go to the children's hospital. Sorry slightly OT vent but as I said I love the one in the pediatrician's office. I don't think they should be working in a trauma center ER.
 
Once we took my very sick daughter in for throwing up, diarrhea, not peeing or pee looking different (she only has one kidney) and the NP just thought she had a stomach bug and put her on antibiotics and sent us on our way. She only got worse. Took her to the ER and found out she had Ecoli and her kidney was failing. :(

A stool test would have diagnosed this but oh well.

Now, this could happen to any nurse/doctor I guess but it has tainted my opinion and I much prefer my daughter be seen by a doctor whenever possible.

if your dd had ecoli causing the gi problems then no antibiotics, because with ecoli they can cause something called hemolytic uremic syndrome. which is what can cause the kidney failure.
she must have thought your dd had ecoli, because otherwise she would not have prescribed antibiotics, and also hemolytic uremic syndrome can happen with ecoli infections even without adding in antibiotics, so its possible hearing the pee situation your dd had that this was starting before she even saw the NP.

Not anywhere near your experience, but I just thought about a time when DS fell and had a cut on the outside corner of an eye. Called the pediatrician's office who had us drive right there. Saw one of the ARNPs who thought it needed sutures and told me to take him to the hospital. At the hospital, they said they wouldn't place sutures because it would be a traumatic thing for him at the age he was. They butterflied it. Gee...the doc's office could have done that! I received notification from the insurance company that they weren't covering the ER visit. Geez. I wrote back to them and informed them that we went to the doctor's originally, and that the ARNP TOLD us to go to the ER with it. They paid after that.

I am sure the NP had good intentions for your ds because it was a facial laceration, near an eye. They suture way way more in the ER and deal with facial lacerations more than in a doc's office, so she probably felt more comfortable having a facial wound dealt with in that way, because of the potential for scarring for instance.
 
I have mixed feelings on NP's. My grandkids all go to the same pediatrician's office and they have an NP. I really like her and she caught an ear infection that the regular pediatrician missed. My DGS fell in January and needed stitches in his forehead. My DD took him to the ER and an NP was assigned to his care. He had 7 stitches put in and by the next day 3 had fallen out. He has an ugly scar now. I know he would have had a scar anyway but even his pediatrician was upset by the circumstances. We have since learned that even though the hospital closest to us is classified as a trauma center they have no pediatricians in the ER. We will travel the extra 20 minutes to go to the children's hospital. Sorry slightly OT vent but as I said I love the one in the pediatrician's office. I don't think they should be working in a trauma center ER.

You probably know this, but Children's Hospital of Philadelphia is the number one rated children's hospital in the country. I'd be driving the extra 20 minutes if my child needed an ER every time. Children's hospitals deal with children. Period. They have the equipment, experience and expertise to deal with kids. A lot of trauma centers don't. IMO, it really had nothing to do with being treated by an NP vs. MD.
 
Seeing a male vs. female is a personal preference, not a level of maturity. I would NEVER see a female OB/GYN. It's too weird! :scared1:

That's a good example of personal preference. I MUCH prefer a female doctor for my physicals. While I dislike having them regardless, I hated it much more with a male doctor. I was glad when there began to be lots of female doctors to choose from (I'm 50 now).
 

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