@#$%$#&@!!! PBS

TDC Nala said:
I donated to PBS once. They called every weekend asking for more. They filled up my mailbox with donation requests. I won't do it again unless I can donate anonymously.

We donate once a year. I havent really noticed any of the requests, maybe it depends on WHICH pbs station? We always donate enought to get the membership card for our state, which givess 2 for 1 dining at a TON of restuarants. As long as we use the card 8-10 times, we have totally SAVED money, and we feel good about doing it. Since we CANT afford cable, and do use public television frequently, I really do feel we owe it to them to pledge some money. I appreciate having quality television.

PBS is wonderful. For the poster who thought there was nothing on EXCEPT sesame street, there are so many wonderful programs. Reading Rainbow is still on, as well as sesame street, arthur, cailou, (and barney, and big comfy couch, and clifford, etc), as well as this old house on the weekend, and all the cooking shows, and the educational specials aired.

As far as the OP, I dont think it even justifies commenting to. You have already said it all.
 
I must admit the Jim Brickman program is on now and I makes me consider it. I am enjoying the program and wouldn't mind the DVD of it. However I am scared of the call backs and mailings. I am considering calling and saying if you can promise me that I will never hear from you again I will pledge. If I get one letter, email or phone call I will never again. I wonder if it would work (it is a different station then the Det one that scamed my mother 15 years ago.)
 
Lil_Tink said:
AND THEY CHANGED COOKIE MONSTER TO VEGGIE MONSTER..This is a true outrage.

No, they didn't. They changed cookie monster so he understood that cookies are 'sometimes food' as opposed to eating a whole plate of yummy chocolate chips cookies, or the letter T (presented by Prarie Dawn).

He still eats cookies, but now in moderation.
 
bicker said:
Un-hijacking the thread... (because hijacking is disrespectful, IMHO, and confronting disrespect with disrespect makes things worse, not better.)

Oy, where to start? Well, I don't think that we are all intending disrespect. There are some that are borderline, but for the most part there's a large segment of the DIS population that realize that most TOV threads are exercises in futility. As in, she comes here asking for help, and ignores it. Worse yet, she continues to do the destructive things that people say are going to really hurt her and her children. Anyway, I'm getting OT for what we are talking about here....hijacking...

I must say that I have to take the blame for the first 'helpful hijacking' for threads posted by TOV. I mean/meant no disrepect by it - it just got kinda frustrating putting emotional energy into something that just sucks it up. "Then just don't open the threads". Uh huh. Think 'Train Wreck' or 'Rubber Neckers' and you can understand. I thought - hey if she's not going to listen to us, and we have all these people coming in to look at the Train Wreck, let's make it productive. Ta-da. Born is the Helpful Hijacking.

You are witnessing one in progress. Oh course, TOV really didn't 'ask' for help as much as complain about something that irked her. Normally posts like that would die into oblivion. (Remember that Train Wreck theory?) Have you looked at how many views this thread has?

bicker said:
Nobody truly has "room to gripe" about PBS doing fundraising.

Amen!
 

Here, we get PBS out of Spokane, Washington. I have been a "member" every year for the last 17 or so years. I don't get inundated with requests. I renew every year before my "membership" runs out because I like getting the monthly schedule guide. (We get the 2 for 1 card, too.) I did just get a request to give an additional "donation" before the year runs out but I am OK with that and I usually try to send more.

PBS out of Spokane runs info during the breaks between shows that states that cable does not pay them anything. They pick their programming up just like anyone else and they do not pay for it.

My kids, who are almost adults now, were raised on Barney, Sesame Street, and Mr. Rogers. I don't think parents appreciate (PBS) like they once did but the people who put together those shows are not around forever! I was only recently told how much my oldest DS loved Mr. Rogers after he had passed away. That was like a slap in the face to me that something I had taken for granted was a rite of passage for my kids. I will continue to support PBS even tho' we have all long outgrown the children's hour!
 
Yes I have cable and a TiVo. The TiVo was recently acquired as a gift for DH, since we decided that now that we don't have a cell phone bill to worry about (his got cancelled, for more reasons than I care to number), we can afford the TiVo.

And where I live, it's either cable or you stick an antenna on your roof. We have an antenna. We were without cable for a long,long time but there's only so much 'regular' television one can stand. PBS included.

PBS USED to have a local sister station (Channel 2 KDTN)but that's been gone for quite a while now.

I still sometimes watch Sesame Street if I'm off and it's on, but it's rarer now that I'm working during the time that it's on during the week.

I am enjoying the program and wouldn't mind the DVD of it. However I am scared of the call backs and mailings. I am considering calling and saying if you can promise me that I will never hear from you again I will pledge.

That's why I haven't pledged. I think I did once, when I was in HS and far les jaded than I am now. But they called and mailed stuff so much I had to call them back and ask to be taken off the list. Yikes. It kind of burned me on ever pledging again, even I felt it was a justified expense.

Just FYI, Sesame Street et. al is owned by the Children's Television Workshop who owns all the rights to the copyrights. PBS and CTW have a distribution agreement but PBS does not get money from the sales of toys and products related to Sesame Street. I believe this goes for all of the shows including Maya & Miguel, Arthur, etc.

Then this is partly where they have messed up (if I understand it right and if I don't somebody please say so. I'm not bloody omniniscent). If they put the shows on their channel (and from what I understand they don't HAVE to..the programming is a local decision, not a corporate one),they should ask for at least a small percentage of the dollars from sale of merchandise that ties into whatever shows they air. It would help with the costs of actually airing those shows in the future (IMO).


TOV
 
:rolleyes: i need a sugar cookie recipe ...any offers?? oh, i love pbs and support it ...some people just don't get and that's ok....and since you tivo'd it how about fast forwarding thru the "begging" i know you fast forward thru the commercials what would make fast forwarding the "begging" different
 
TheOtherVillainess said:
Yes I have cable and a TiVo. The TiVo was recently acquired as a gift for DH, since we decided that now that we don't have a cell phone bill to worry about (his got cancelled, for more reasons than I care to number), we can afford the TiVo.

And where I live, it's either cable or you stick an antenna on your roof. We have an antenna. We were without cable for a long,long time but there's only so much 'regular' television one can stand. PBS included.

PBS USED to have a local sister station (Channel 2 KDTN)but that's been gone for quite a while now.

I still sometimes watch Sesame Street if I'm off and it's on, but it's rarer now that I'm working during the time that it's on during the week.



That's why I haven't pledged. I think I did once, when I was in HS and far les jaded than I am now. But they called and mailed stuff so much I had to call them back and ask to be taken off the list. Yikes. It kind of burned me on ever pledging again, even I felt it was a justified expense.



Then this is partly where they have messed up (if I understand it right and if I don't somebody please say so. I'm not bloody omniniscent). If they put the shows on their channel (and from what I understand they don't HAVE to..the programming is a local decision, not a corporate one),they should ask for at least a small percentage of the dollars from sale of merchandise that ties into whatever shows they air. It would help with the costs of actually airing those shows in the future (IMO).


TOV


Can I buy a clue? :confused3
 
roque said:
:rolleyes: i need a sugar cookie recipe ...any offers?? oh, i love pbs and support it ...some people just don't get and that's ok....and since you tivo'd it how about fast forwarding thru the "begging" i know you fast forward thru the commercials what would make fast forwarding the "begging" different

soft or crispy? I have a FABOO soft one that gets raves wherever it goes.
 
Shuggies World Famous Sugar Cookies:

3 cups flour
3/4 tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
1/4 tsp cream of tartar
1 cup UNsalted butter
1 cup sugar
1 egg
1 T milk (I use buttermilk but regular works fine too)

Cream together butter, sugar, egg and milk. Sift dry ingredients together and then blend with creamed mixture. Instead of flour for rolling them out I use 1/2 flour and 1/2 powdered sugar on my cloth. I roll mine out real thick but thinner produces a crispier cookie and I like them real soft. Bake at 375 for 8 to 11 min (I bake mine for 9 min and 30 seconds). Brush tops with a little milk IMMEDIATELY after they come out of the oven and sprinkle with sugar. Let cool a bit on the pan as they will be very soft and break if too warm. You can ice them if you prefer after they cool completely.

Try not to handle the dough too much. The more you roll and reroll, the less soft and flaky they will be.
 
I've been gone for months. Good to see some things haven't changed. :flower:
 
DisneyLovingMama said:
I've been gone for months. Good to see some things haven't changed. :flower:


Well welcome back, how ya doing? :flower:
 
I'm hanging in there. Enjoyed the holidays. Copying down recipes furiously for Christmas. I'm an hors d'ouevres type of gal. :goodvibes
 
TheOtherVillainess said:
That's why I haven't pledged. I think I did once, when I was in HS and far les jaded than I am now. But they called and mailed stuff so much I had to call them back and ask to be taken off the list. Yikes. It kind of burned me on ever pledging again, even I felt it was a justified expense.

A 30 second email to the Public relations mananger for KERA asking about anonymous donations earned me an enthusiastic 'All donation types are welcome". Even handier, she included an address that you can send a money order too - thereby ensuring a totally anonymous donation:

KERA 13
PO Box 200224
Dallas, TX 75320-0224

KERA 90.1
P.O. Box 200222
Dallas, TX 75320-0222

In looking for the email address, their website is advertising the need of volunteers for a December auction of some type, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to let you help them by donating your time.
 
Shugardrawers said:
Shuggies World Famous Sugar Cookies:

3 cups flour
3/4 tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
1/4 tsp cream of tartar
1 cup UNsalted butter
1 cup sugar
1 egg
1 T milk (I use buttermilk but regular works fine too)

Cream together butter, sugar, egg and milk. Sift dry ingredients together and then blend with creamed mixture. Instead of flour for rolling them out I use 1/2 flour and 1/2 powdered sugar on my cloth. I roll mine out real thick but thinner produces a crispier cookie and I like them real soft. Bake at 375 for 8 to 11 min (I bake mine for 9 min and 30 seconds). Brush tops with a little milk IMMEDIATELY after they come out of the oven and sprinkle with sugar. Let cool a bit on the pan as they will be very soft and break if too warm. You can ice them if you prefer after they cool completely.

Try not to handle the dough too much. The more you roll and reroll, the less soft and flaky they will be.

just got back THANKS I will let you know when i bake them !! :earsboy:
 
Using this thread to send out a big thank you for the Broccoli Cheese casserole recipe from the last thread of this type. :cool1:

Everybody loved it.

Will copy these down quickly because sometimes you can't find them again. ;)
 
My cable company made me a remarkable offer: They want to add a new channel to my cable subscription -- and you will pay for it. The channel will have liberal news, highbrow entertainment and a variety of educational programming.

Sounds insane, and yet the channel isn't new. It's called PBS.

Public broadcasting is a classic example of welfare for the well-off. We PBS viewers are 44 percent more likely than other Americans to make more than $150,000 a year.

I enjoy PBS, but it hardly seems fair that the government demands you buy it for me. If I want to see opera, I should pay for it myself. Why should you be taxed to pump "La Boheme" into my living room? It barely made sense in 1967, when most Americans only had the Big Three broadcast networks, but now there are hundreds of channels. If there's a demand for opera or BBC drama, the market will provide it.

Not everything on PBS is for elites only, of course. The network is justly famous for programs like "Sesame Street." But popular programs are just that -- popular. That means they have other ways to get money. People already give so much money to PBS that today, it only gets 15 percent of its funds from the federal government. As David Boaz, author of "Libertarianism: A Primer," points out, businesses and nonprofits deal with 15 percent revenue losses all the time. If NPR and PBS lost all their federal money, they wouldn't disappear."

Republicans should stop dithering about reducing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting's subsidies and eliminate them altogether. Of course, when anyone suggests cutting the PBS budget, people say, "they're trying to kill 'Sesame Street'!" But "Sesame Street" is big business and would survive in any environment. "Children's programming that has an audience does not need taxpayer subsidies," says Jacob Sullum of Reason. "Noggin, which is more 'commercial-free' than PBS stations, carries 12 hours of kids' shows (including two different versions of 'Sesame Street') every day. Parent-acceptable children's programming can also be seen on Nickelodeon, the Disney Channel and ABC Family."

Some people, who apparently have never watched "20/20" or "60 Minutes," claim we won't have tough journalism on TV unless the public pays for it. Only PBS will do "honest" documentaries, they say, because PBS isn't dependent on corporate support. Twenty-five years ago, Ralph Nader proclaimed that consumer reporting would never appear on commercial TV. It would only thrive on public TV, he said, because commercial stations would defer to advertisers.

Today, it's clear that Nader was totally wrong (as he is so often). PBS carries almost no consumer reporting, probably because the bureaucrats who run it are too nervous about offending anyone . By contrast, there is plenty of consumer reporting on commercial TV. I criticized my employers' most valued customers for years. For heaping abuse on the people who paid us, I was given promotions.

Why? Because viewers want tough news -- even news hostile to big advertisers. Commercial television provides it because even if sponsors boycott, the money other sponsors are willing to spend to reach the viewers the reports attract makes up the loss. The free market serves its customers, and in the TV business, the customers are viewers.

PBS, on the other hand, is broadcasting by bureaucracy. This is not a good thing. We should have separation of news and state. "We wouldn't want the federal government to publish a national newspaper, writes Boaz, "why should we have a government television network and a government radio network? If anything should be kept separate from government and politics, it's the news and public affairs programming that Americans watch. When government brings us the news -- with all the inevitable bias and spin -- the government is putting its thumb on the scales of democracy. It's time for that to stop."

is co-anchor of ABC News "20/20" and author of "Give Me a Break."
 


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