Papa Deuce's BBQ Joint.... Come on in! We really talk about BBQ!

Papa Deuce

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OK, Since several people expressed interest in my doing this thread, I will.

This thread is about the art of BBQ, not grilling. So, what is the difference you ask? Well, BBQ is made nice and slow over a low heat, and grilling is done very quickly over high heat. Making BBQ is frequently about taking an undesireable cut of meat, like brisket or pork shoulder, and transforming it into something so delicious and tasty, that once you have tasted good "Q", you'll never want to turn back.

Generally speaking, temperatures for making BBQ range from about 210 - 300 degrees. This long, slow, cooking process is what makes the meat so tender and juicy. And the smoke from various woods is what makes it so TASTY!

There are many variations on how to achieve this end result. But the best end result is the combination of the low heat, and the proper woods for the meat that you are smoking.

Depending on your method of smoking, the amount of wood you use, is of extreme importance. Too much smoke, or smoke from the wrong type of wood can absolutely make your food inedible.

So, Papa Deuce, what makes you an expert? Well, I am not an expert. In fact I only started making BBQ --- or "Q" as it is sometimes called --- two years ago. I entered one competition in my life. There were 14 contestants in my category, and I took 3rd place. That's pretty darn good for a first try.

Also, in my 2nd year of "smoking" I did a whole pig roast! Cooked a 95 pounder for a party this summer. EVERY SINGLE SHRED of this piggy was gone by the end of the party. I had people offering to pay me to cater pig roasts for them.... I can only hope that I get even better as I do more of these pig roasts. Man, it was TASTY.

Anyway, I bring this up only to say, that making BBQ, or "smoking" isn't all that hard to do, but like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get at it. And, if you are like me, it will become an obsession. And if you are like me, it is quite possible that your first attempt will be an abysmal failure, and boy was my first attempt an abysmal failure!

Without all the details, my first attempt was brisket, and let's just say that the dog wasn't sure he was willing to eat it. I used WAAAY too much wood, which created WAAAAAAAY to much of smoke flavor, and the end result tatsed like some nasty, chemical infused meat. And, my other mistake was jumping right to brisket instead of going with the much easier to prepare "pork shoulder".

Anyway, that will do it for this post. I'll answer questions if you ask. My next post will include more substantial information, like what types of smokers do you use. Or it may be just on which types of wood go well with which meats.

In the future I will give out my favorite recipes that I created. I will "possibly" even include my "SECRET INGREDIENTS" for certain recipes. I'll give you my best homemade BBQ sauce recipes. We''ll talk about the variations in which sauces get eaten in which parts of the country. We'll maybe talk about some legendary BBQ Joints.

We can talk the history of BBQ. We'll learn what makes a good "rub".

Most of all, IMO, we'll talk about the best food under the sun!

And, please, even though I know a lot about BBQ, understand that I am just a hobbyist -- with an eye towards owning my own BBQ Joint --- and occasionally somebody will disagree with what I say or do. Feel free to correct me, or just point out what you think might be a better option.

Let's have fun with this thread! And, BTW, just becasue winter is nearly upon us, that doesn't mean we can't have great BBQ!
 
I love to cook and have always wanted to attempt BBQ spare ribs, but haven't had the nerve (cause bad spare ribs are really bad)....so throw me a bone here, PD...where do I start?.
 
poohandwendy said:
I love to cook and have always wanted to attempt BBQ spare ribs, but haven't had the nerve (cause bad spare ribs are really bad)....so throw me a bone here, PD...where do I start?.

All in good time! I don't want to wear out my welcome on the first day we're open for business!
:D

EDIT: One thing I will say right now, is never par boil your ribs! BTW, some restaurants do this, including Damon's, but they have such high volume, i figure that they need to do this for speed.
 
How about you just hire yourself out for us DISers ??? :jumping1:
 

my hat's off to you, papa deuce! sounds as though we have an excellent teacher. i feel sure we're going to all be enjoying some scrumptious "q" soon & having loads of fun doing it.
 
lol am I the only one who found that truely seductive? LMAO sorry PD but I did..maybe its cause i went to culinary school?
 
Brandon79 said:
my hat's off to you, papa deuce! sounds as though we have an excellent teacher. i feel sure we're going to all be enjoying some scrumptious "q" soon & having loads of fun doing it.

Actually, I hope that somebody knows more than I do. All I want to do is make better BBQ. And I hope tons of people contribute as well as take.
 
Looking forward to your lessons Papa Deuce! One question I have is I live here in COLD Wisconsin and I have an electric smoker. Can I still use it in the winter, or won't it heat up enough to get the meat done?
 
BBQ is a big thing here in NC. Eastern BBQ vs. Western BBQ. The Eastern NC sauce is a vinegar based sauce, while the Western NC sauce is a tomato based sauce. I much prefer the Eastern!

Here in NC, we put slaw on our BBQ sandwiches. People in my office from different parts of the country say that is gross! NO WAY I would eat a BBQ sandwich without the slaw!

Okay, so BBQ is one of my fav things and this is a great thread!
 
Is it possible to make a good sauce without corn syrup--

All the store bought sauces (I know, the shame) have corn syrup. I think if I want to add sugar, I'll add the real stuff.

Anybody know of a good store bought sauce sans corn syrup or Papa, a recipe without it?

Thanks!
 
Being born and raised in south Alabama and NW Florida, I had no choice but to become BBQ savy. We cut our teeth on rib bones, (no joke) we actually give are teething youngin's rib bones. There are many different ways to serve the meats. There are many ways to prepare the meats for cooking but, only one way to cook it, just like Papa D. said, S-L-O-W.
I have been to some of if not the best BBQ joints in the south. Some are too small to mention but they have been found to be the best. Two that stick out in my mind are actually two seperate guys who happen to cook BBQ. One is named Mr. Barkley, he has the best pulled pork sandwiches I have ever tasted! As for ribs and rumps a ooooold man we call Mr. Deke has my business. Neither of these guys have a resturant but do special events only.
Mr. Deke cooks on a pit grill made from cinderblocks and wire grate that measures a good 25 sq. ft.
Some of the best sit down BBQ resturants I have been priviliged to visit many times are, Dreamland (there are a few around but the original in Tuscaloosa, Alabama is by far the best) Rendezvous, in Memphis is allways yummy. There are a couple of places here in Pensacola, Smokey's and Sonny's are both great.
MMmmmmmm now I want some BBQ. Well, I guess I'll save the type of wood everyone uses later. (Pecan wood is great BTW) And we have to cover sauces.. fun thread Papa.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Is it possible to make a good sauce without corn syrup--

All the store bought sauces (I know, the shame) have corn syrup. I think if I want to add sugar, I'll add the real stuff.

Anybody know of a good store bought sauce sans corn syrup or Papa, a recipe without it?

Thanks!

I have never made one WITH corn syrup; I can tell you that.
 
Papa Deuce said:
I have never made one WITH corn syrup; I can tell you that.

Well, when you are ready to share a recipe I would love to have it...I am Unable to find an OTC sauce without it.
 
Big V said:
Looking forward to your lessons Papa Deuce! One question I have is I live here in COLD Wisconsin and I have an electric smoker. Can I still use it in the winter, or won't it heat up enough to get the meat done?

I mostly use an electric smoker too. I have a Cookshack. And mine absolutely does the job in the winter without any problem at all..
 
Big V said:
Looking forward to your lessons Papa Deuce! One question I have is I live here in COLD Wisconsin and I have an electric smoker. Can I still use it in the winter, or won't it heat up enough to get the meat done?

OK, I will start here. I too have an electric smoker. I use it a ton for its simpilicty. My brand is called a Cookshack. I absolutely love it, and ona a scale of one to 10, I would give this thing a 9.

Here is how it works. Basically it is a big metal box, about 2' x 2' x 3' high. It has 3 shelves in it. There is a drainage hole in the bottom. Near the the bottom there is a protruding heating element on the inside of the box. A metal housing surrounds the heating element.

You take your wood, just 2 - 6 ounces of wood, place it in the metal box surrounding the heating element, put your meat on the shelves, set the thermostat, and walk away. BTW, just six ounces of wood, max. This is a FRACTION of the amount of wood you need when compared to an offset smoker, whick we'll talk about in another post.

With pork shoulder --- say an 8 pounder --- you come back and check on it about 10 hours to see if it is done. When the internal temp reaches your desired point, turn off the smoker, and start pulling your pork. I'll talk in depth about meat temos later, but for pulling pork, the ideal temperature is 190 - 195 degrees. We cook almost all of our BBQ at 225 - 235 degrees.
 
When we moved to TX, we were invited to a BBQ about a week after we moved in. Coming from WI BBQ either means Brats, hamburgers, chicken on the grill OR a homemade sloppy joe on a good bun. So we were surprised to be served brisket. We had never even had brisket. The only brisket we had was on St. Patty's day and the was a corned beef brisket. Well we learned a whole lot about the ART of smoking and TX BBQ's. Never knew someone copuld be so proud of a red ring!!
We had to get in on this action, so being the Alton Brown fans that we are, we went to the garden store and made our smoker out of 2 terra cotta pots. You should have seen the looks we got when we set this up in our driveway (yes, we were hoping people would ask what we were doing). We have used a lot of different rubs and seasoning combos. Everything we have doine in the smoker is very good, but an all day experience!

BTW--I am still laughing (3 years later) about how every BBQ person has their own "recipe" and it is such a secret! Who would have thought cooking would involve taking an oath of silence???
 
When I visited my friend in Tennessee his family made really good barbecue. They barbecued huge platters of all different types of meats. They barbecue all day long, and the whole neighborhood came over, LOl! The food was really good. :flower:
 
ckmommy said:
so being the Alton Brown fans that we are, we went to the garden store and made our smoker out of 2 terra cotta pots. You should have seen the looks we got when we set this up in our driveway (yes, we were hoping people would ask what we were doing).

Wow, this sounds cool, can you elaborate? I'm always up for trying something new.
 
You just answered my first question, what kind of smoker? I know nothing about smokers, so I think I'd like to get one like yours. It didn't seem so scary after you described it.
I make roast pork in my oven over a two day period for hot roast pork sandwiches so cooking low and slow is something I want to try.
Thanks so much for starting this thread. Your full of good info and you just made me very hungry.
 














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