P&S vs. DSLR

WVDisGeek

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Hello,

Longtime Disney nut and reader of the Boards. Don't post much though...

My question is, My DW and I are lucky enough to get to WDW about once a year. We have taken literally thousands of shots with our Kodak P&S. I have Pentax 35mm SLRs but have not made the investment in a DSLR. We are debating a new camera for a Christmas trip in December. Obviously we are interested in nighttime parade shots and fireworks. The P&S we currently have does not handle these situations well. Have been looking to upgrade to either something like a Canon S5IS/Kodak Z812 on the P&S side or a Pentax K10D or K200 (So I can use some of my existing lenses.) Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!:)
 
Parade shots and fireworks will be much better on a dslr- all the brands have a great lineup that will work well for you. If you already have an investment in Pentax glass thet certainly seems like the logical choice.
 
Gdad,

Thanks. 2 of the guys I work with shoot Nikon D200s but it is really more than I wanted to spend. I was looking at a Pentax 200 and a Tamron 18-200 lens to start. I have a few old non-AF Pentax lenses from my K1000 and A3000 days. Any suggestions for settings for the night shots and/or fireworks?

The reviews on the 200 show pretty good noise charateristics up to iso 1600. I was planning on starting there with a tripod and playing around, but am always willing to listen to more experienced photogs.
Thanks again.
 
You will also need to pick up a fast lens for the night shots- I'm sure Pentax has an inexpensive 'Normal' 50mm lens at f1.8 or f1.4- where are our resident Pentax experts? :confused:
 

You will also need to pick up a fast lens for the night shots- I'm sure Pentax has an inexpensive 'Normal' 50mm lens at f1.8 or f1.4- where are our resident Pentax experts? :confused:

The SMC-FA 50mm f/1.4 is an excellent lens. It is a little more expensive than the standard C&N 50mm models at ~$175, but it is a better lens and a more solid build. Some have even considered it better than the Canon 50mm f/1.4, which costs at least twice as much.

To the OP, what lenses do you have?

Kevin
 
I think I am leaning that way! I have an old 50mm lens I bought with my A3000 body, a 135 zoom from my k1000 and a 200-400 zoom (Vivtar, not great glass, but it would reach out). I also have a couple of bounce flashes a 2x converter and some other odds and ends. Will all of this stuff work with the new Pentax bodies?

I have priced B&H, Beach Photo and a couple of other places. Any recommendations?

Thanks again for all of your help!!!:thumbsup2
 
Parade shots and fireworks will be much better on a dslr- all the brands have a great lineup that will work well for you. If you already have an investment in Pentax glass thet certainly seems like the logical choice.

I completely agree about the parade shots, but does a DSLR really have much of an advantage on fireworks? I usually shoot them at a low ISO, so noise isn't an issue. Can you use a remote shutter release with a p&s? That could be a problem. Do they support any kind of "bulb" mode? And why do they call it "bulb", anyway?
 
All of the common DSLRs support some sort of remote shutter release, and I believe the common models all have some sort of bulb or mirror lock-up mode.

My own DSLR is a Canon Digital Rebel 300D. I shoot long exposures with an IR remote shutter release (commonly available for about $25).

I think that DSLRs do have an advantage over most P&S cameras because of the generally better optics, but many of them also have better sensors and firmware than most P&S cameras.

If looking for a good consumer DSLR, you might look at the Canon Digital Rebel XT (350D), which is a slightly older model, but is on sale for $549 this week at Best Buy, with an 18-55 kit lens that's quite nice. The RC-1 IR remote shutter release is about $25 from B&H.
 
I think I am leaning that way! I have an old 50mm lens I bought with my A3000 body, a 135 zoom from my k1000 and a 200-400 zoom (Vivtar, not great glass, but it would reach out). I also have a couple of bounce flashes a 2x converter and some other odds and ends. Will all of this stuff work with the new Pentax bodies?

I have priced B&H, Beach Photo and a couple of other places. Any recommendations?

Thanks again for all of your help!!!:thumbsup2

What are the specs of the 50mm? Most of them were very good, but some were really nice. Be aware that the effective focal length on a Pentax DSLR is 1.5x the lens focal length, so your 200-400mm is now a 300-600mm. It may not be the best, but that is some serious reach!

You cannot safely use the flashes b/c they can fry the DSLR. The 2x converter will probably work on your old lenses, but might not pass any info to the camera.

Kevin
 
There is a way to look up your flash online somewhere to see if it'll work with your DSLR. My old full-manual flash from my K1000 works fine on my Pentax DSLRs, but you have to shoot in manual mode, since you set the flash to a specific aperture and ISO. (Actually, shutter priority may work, too.) I did find that going to a modern flash was much nicer to use, but if you're willing to take the extra few minutes to set the old-fashioned one, you can still get the big advantages of an external flash - more power and the ability to bounce it.

The K10D is an astonishing bargain at the moment, it's really built to compare with the Nikon D200 (though I think the D200 has a faster burst rate) and has the same sensor as the D200 - only the Pentax's has image stabilization so every lens will be stabilized, whereas the D200 requires you to buy stabilization on a lens-by-lens basis, which means more money and most lenses just plain don't have it available. It's also weathersealed, which the Nikon isn't. (And sensor-shake dust reduction, the ability to do full P-TTL wireless flash via the onboard flash, etc.) Since the K20D is out now, the K10D can be had for incredibly cheap, and it's still a terrific camera with very few drawbacks.

The K200D will probably cost about the same money and is a similar camera in many technical ways, but is more entry-level, with only one control wheel, a smaller viewfinder, AA batteries instead of lith-ion, scene modes (like on a PnS), etc.

For buying, you may want to check Amazon, too - I think they have some of the cheapest prices on the K20D and may be similar on the K200D, too. Their 30-day price adjust policy can help you - I got back over $150 after they dropped the price of the K20D after I bought mine. If you end up with a K10D, I'd recommend buying soon - they will probably all disappear soon. If you decide on a K200D, you may want to wait a little while as it's brand new and the price will surely drop over the next few months. And in fact, rumors are that we'll see a cheaper K2000D introduced later this year, but details are mostly speculation at this point. The K200D is a little higher-line than most other entry-level DSLRs and is not priced cheaper, as opposed to previous Pentax entry-levels, which were usually cheaper than competing DSLRs.

Oh yeah, in case you hadn't guessed, I think everyone will recommend a DSLR over the other cameras you mentioned, especially if you're already used to a film SLR. The digital point-n-shoots will not give you the image quality (especially in low light) of a DSLR, but they can take movies and are smaller and often have huge zoom ranges which'd cost a bit of monet to replicate on a DSLR.

Kevin, the Canon 50mm F1.4 isn't quite twice as much, but close. (I think it's $300, the Nikon is slightly cheaper, the Sony is slightly more.) But everything I'd read does say that the Pentax still has the edge, even being cheaper.

I'm going to guess that WVDisGeek has a manual-focus 50mm F1.7 or maybe even F1.4 - both top-notch lenses. (Some even argue that they're even better than the current lens, but I think the differences are so slight that there's no clear winner - though the old all-metal lens certainly has a build-quality advantage over the plastic-body current lens, although the current one still does feel quite nice.)

Mark, supposedly "bulb" modes comes from the early days of flashbulbs - the photographer would open the shutter, manually fire off the flashbulb, then close the shutter. Who knew? :confused3 Anyway, I think bulb mode is extremely rare in a PnS and remote shutter releases are similarly rare.
 















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