Our DDP Experience 3/30-4-7

ratfam

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Hi! Just back, and I got so much useful information here that helped our trip planning I figured I would pass along my thoughts on the dining plan in case it can help someone else (although I'm sure a lot of it has already been said). Eaters were me, dh, dd10 and ds7. Going in with an understanding of how the plan works will definitely help you maximize your value and minimize your time and oop costs. We always told servers up front that we were on the plan so that there wouldn't be any surprises, no one seemed put off by it and our service was always good. At places where we weren't sure what was covered, like at Sunshine Seasons for dessert, we made sure we understood the rules before we ordered. And it never hurts to ask--one ts restaurant wanted to charge us for ds' chocolate milk (they said only soft drinks were included), but when we told them it had been included everywhere else they changed their minds.

We seriously debated whether to get the plan for a few reasons, mainly because we would be paying full price for our dd10, but also because we are DVC members and were staying at a villa with a kitchen and we were worried about overindulging/weight gain. Well, we absolutely LOVED the dining plan and if it is within your budget and fits in your touring plans I would strongly recommend it to anyone. Why? It was wonderful not to have to make price-based decisions on where to go or what to order. It was great to be able to say "yes" to the kids about getting an ice cream or popcorn or whatever they wanted from the menu. We explained the plan to the kids, and they seemed to feel less nervous about ordering something that they might not like (it didn't feel as much to them like we were "paying" for it) and as a result they tried a lot of new things that they really liked (sometimes surprising themselves!) and got to try even more things through our meals. We tried a lot of new places, some of which we wouldn't have gone to if paying oop, so instead of something to jam into the day while cringing at the prices, dining became another enjoyable part of our vacation.

In terms of value, it seems like it would be very hard not to save money on the plan. The dining plan cost us just under $1,000 and our receipts total approximately $1550. So we "saved" $550 even though dd ordered off the childrens' menus at Spoodles and several counter service restaurants, we didn't necessarily eat at the most expensive restaurants and we didn't maximize our bills because at ts dd and I usually just had water to drink and we didn't always order all of our desserts. Although it may seem counterintuitive I think that we actually ate healthier on the dining plan because we were willing to do more expensive cs where it wasn't all burgers and fries, and often we could get fruit for desserts at cs (sometimes we got three fruits and one dessert so we could each have a bite without overdoing it). We also didn't try to maximize value by sharing meals or saving credits by paying for kids meals oop--with breakfast in the villa and one dinner cooked in we had enough credits for every lunch and dinner, and we all like different things so we were able to let everyone order what they wanted and we could share around. We have decent appetites and couldn't finish everything, but we weren't throwing away so much food that I felt uncomfortable with it. If you wanted to do breakfast and lunch on the plan sharing cs meals for these would probably work well. If we were just too full we gave away extra food, especially desserts at cs lunch--we would keep one or two for ourselves and give the others away. With all the walking, my weight gain fears did not materialize. I added up what I thought we would have spent if we didn't get the dining plan and I figure we would have spent somewhere around $900 but would not have been able to eat out nearly as often and would have had to drop some of the more expensive restaurants from our list, so for the extra $100 the dining plan made sense.

I am planning to do a separate restaurant review on the main restaurant forum, but here is where we ate if you have any questions about using the dining plan at these places specifically:

ts were Spoodles, Crystal Palace, Teppanyaki, Yachtsman Steakhouse (just me and dh), Sci Fi (lunch), Hollywood and Vine, Kona Cafe and San Angel Inn. Spoodles and Kona were probably our best values, each bill was over $160 (even with dd ordering off kids' menu at Spoodles and ds skipping dessert at Kona). Spoodles was the most relaxing meal, they really spread things out which was great since we weren't going to a park that night but might be a problem for people on a schedule. Spoodles was also the most flexible about the dining plan--they told us up front that "add ons" were free on the plan and let my husband order the dessert sampler for his dessert even though I had ordered something else (their creme brulee is amazing). Yachtsman Steakhouse was fabulous. Although you can't do a lobster add on, they will do a lobster tail dinner for you on the plan and let you pick your own side. Our bill for two people was $140, but we used four ts credits. We really liked the food at Kona and it was a fabulous value on the plan, but Kona and San Angel definitely move people in and out quickly (this worked out ok for us because we had plans both nights).

cs were Hurricane Hannah's (x3), Pinocchio's, Tangierine Cafe, Sunshine Seasons, Tusker House and Columbia Harbor House. Tangierine and Sunshine Seasons were the big tickets here, at $60 and $50 respectively, and we really enjoyed each. Kids dessert selections were limited at Sunshine Seasons, but ds was quite pleased with his "Worms in Dirt". Kids loved Hurricane Hannah's and the kids' meals were quite generous, which proved to be good in the middle of a heavy day of swimming.

Well, that's pretty long winded, but I hope its helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions! Thanks for reading.
 
Thank you so much for your report. You really helped confirmed my decision about our upcoming vacation. I am a DVC member too, so was really struggling to decide if I wanted to do DDP or not. After reading your post, I am convinced that I am. Thanks again for the post.
 
4mcbjctr, glad it was helpful. As I reminded my family, using the dining plan also gave them a much less crabby mom than if I had to cook all those extra meals on my vacation. My dh was the most reluctant to do the plan, even after I explained to him why it made sense financially, but as soon as we got there he was obsessing about using all of our credits and not letting anything to go waste, and I think he enjoyed it the most of all of us. Have fun!
 

Hi Ratfam,

Thanks for posting your experience... We are also DVC'ers & we have a DS that is eleven... That is what I'm struggling over... I can't imagine that paying 38.00 a day for DS is going to be a bargain... I'm trying to think back to our most recent restaurant stays with him & I can't really recall what he ordered... I want to say he's still ordering off the kids menu, but I'm not sure... You really think you were able to make it worth it for your DD who is ten?

TIA!
 
ratfam said:
It was wonderful not to have to make price-based decisions on where to go or what to order. It was great to be able to say "yes" to the kids about getting an ice cream or popcorn or whatever they wanted from the menu.

This is soooooooooo true! My trip the last week of March was the most wonderful dining experience in my life. I'm a cheapskate when it comes to dining and my original plan was to bring sandwiches into the parks and go off site for fast food at night. I would have thrown in a couple of "nice" meals for the kids, but "nice" in my vocabulary means that the bill for one adult and two kids comes to $25 including tax and tip :lmao: Don't get me wrong...we eat out WAY too much...we just don't go to fancy restaurants.

It was so great to be able to treat my kids (and myself) to a vacation where even the food could be magical. My kids know better than to ask me for food off of the carts at amusment parks, because I'm just too cheap to pay $2.50 or $3.00 for an ice cream...but they knew on this trip they'd be able to have it. It ended up costing me a bit more on the plan than if I had done the sandwiches/fast food scenario, but the value added was incredible. I'd hate to ever do Disney again WITHOUT the meal plan. I was so thrilled with it that we're going back the first week of October and this time it's FREE!
 
chris1gill said:
Hi Ratfam,

Thanks for posting your experience... We are also DVC'ers & we have a DS that is eleven... That is what I'm struggling over... I can't imagine that paying 38.00 a day for DS is going to be a bargain... I'm trying to think back to our most recent restaurant stays with him & I can't really recall what he ordered...
You may want to take a look at what your dining plans are for your trip then review DIS Menus or Deb's Menus to get an idea of how much you would spend out of pocket (OOP) for TS, CS, and snacks. :goodvibes

In general, if you plan to eat an evening TS every day and a CS lunch or breakfast every day during your visit, the Dining Plan will more than pay for itself. In our case, we spend much less than $38 per person per day on food, so the DP isn't worth it for us financially nor is it worth the inconvience of scheduling evening meals. :cool1:
 
chris1gill said:
Hi Ratfam,

Thanks for posting your experience... We are also DVC'ers & we have a DS that is eleven... That is what I'm struggling over... I can't imagine that paying 38.00 a day for DS is going to be a bargain... I'm trying to think back to our most recent restaurant stays with him & I can't really recall what he ordered... I want to say he's still ordering off the kids menu, but I'm not sure... You really think you were able to make it worth it for your DD who is ten?

TIA!

That's the biggest struggle anyone can face with this meal plan. As great a value as it is for adults and children, the value just isn't there for the pre-teens.

My suggestion to you since you only have one child falling into this category is to purchase the plan, but only order three meals plus an extra plate. You'll still have to pay the adult price for your son's plan, but at least you'll have enough credits leftover to get some extra meals that aren't otherwise covered.

I'd also suggest ordering three adult meals each time, since no dinstinction would be made between child vs. adult credits, but if I made that recommendation I'd get flamed, so I'll withhold :rotfl:
 
formernyer said:
I'd also suggest ordering three adult meals each time, since no dinstinction would be made between child vs. adult credits, but if I made that recommendation I'd get flamed, so I'll withhold :rotfl:

I'll keep that in mind :lmao: I wish they offered a junior rate of 21.00! That would be most helpful :thumbsup2
 
The biggest issue is the 9 year old that eats like an adult and the 11 year olds that eats like a bird.. The problem is solved if a family has one of each. The current policy of pooling credits tends to solve the issue for most families but the plan terms are subject to change. I'd be careful booking dining if my decision is dependent on Disney continuing the present policy.

The dining plan works even if you order the less expensive entrées from the less expensive restaurants. It even works if you skip appetizers and desserts most of the time.

The only issue would be famlies that like to skip TS meals most days. The plan is actually a bad value if you're going to use your credits for TS meals that require 2 credits.
 
chris1gill said:
I'll keep that in mind :lmao: I wish they offered a junior rate of 21.00! That would be most helpful :thumbsup2

Exactly. I've made that exact same post here before. My recommendation was that they price the Junions somewhere in the $22.99 range and allow them to have their choice between an extra large kid's meal or a reduced-portion adult meal.
 
formernyer said:
Exactly. I've made that exact same post here before. My recommendation was that they price the Junions somewhere in the $22.99 range and allow them to have their choice between an extra large kid's meal or a reduced-portion adult meal.

This would be SO perfect!! Now that you mention it, I know DS has ordered the extra large kid's meals & had a bit of food leftover... so that would probably be the perfect solution...

Our DD is 8 & she eats N-O-T-H-I-N-G, except dessert that is! Her waist is the size of a twig :rolleyes: Wish I could be her LOL...
 
I enjoyed your report. I see you dined at Teppanyaki, and I'd love to hear about your experience. After reading your review of Spoodles I'm wondering if that might be a better choice for our family. :sunny:
 
chris1gill said:
Hi Ratfam,

Thanks for posting your experience... We are also DVC'ers & we have a DS that is eleven... That is what I'm struggling over... I can't imagine that paying 38.00 a day for DS is going to be a bargain... I'm trying to think back to our most recent restaurant stays with him & I can't really recall what he ordered... I want to say he's still ordering off the kids menu, but I'm not sure... You really think you were able to make it worth it for your DD who is ten?

TIA!


We used the DDP last year when it was free and my DS was 11. He had no problem eating the Filet Mignon, trout and other adult meals. He loved the appetizers too. He ordered stuff I never would have thought he'd like. With 6 kids we don't eat out often and if we do order out it's usually pizza. I think it will be worth it for your DS. Unless he is an extremely picky eater as some kids are. Go over the menus on allears with him and ask what he likes.

I felt it would be well worth paying $38 for my DS and we planned to do so before free dining was announced again. We were already booked paying for dining so getting it free again is awesome.
 
Finally getting back for questions!

HI chris1gill, in our case there is no question that the plan paid for itself even with dd10. I do have to preface this by saying that dd10 has a decent appetite, is fairly open to trying new things and will eat any vegetable or fruit under the sun, which helps. We gave her her choice and she only chose to order off the kids' menu at Spoodles and a few cs places, but I had run the math at home assuming her ordering more frequently off the kids menus and it still made sense financially, we just wouldn't have "saved" as much as we ended up saving. All of our ts meals exceeded the $125 we spent each day for the plan (sometimes by a significant amount) other than Sci Fi and Hollywood and Vine, each of which were $105 (Sci Fi could easily have been higher but we were there for lunch and we didn't order everything we were entitled to). So even for those two we were only $20 under our daily plan payment, and cs cost way more than that each day ($40 to $60 for us, depending on where). We were worried that the adult size entrees might be too much for her, but it really worked out fine (she might have eaten the vegetable and meat but not the potato that came with it), especially with all of us sharing around. And even the kids menus are pricey at some places--my kids' portion of the bill at Spoodles' was around $45+ for all three courses and they didn't order the most expensive items or get drinks. She really loved being able to order from the adult menu and enjoyed trying new things. I really thought we'd end up taking a loss on her, but it ended up being a great experience for her and I think a lot of times her bill was higher than mine since I don't eat beef. We realized great "savings" even without pooling credits or trying to maximize our bills. Finally, remember that at buffets and family style meals you will be paying an adult price for your ds regardless. So do the math depending on your plans, but I think you'll easily see that you come out ahead regardless of how he orders. Hope that helps!

Hi Toots! We all loved Teppanyaki and Spoodles, I would say they were the kids' two favorite meals of the trip. At Teppanyaki you were allowed any entree or combination (I don't remember seeing any lobster, I know people have talked about that and it may be off the menu), they came with the grilled vegetables/noodles and rice. Appetizers were a choice of soup, salad or edamame (and they served a small dish of complimentary seaweed salad, which everyone except ds loved). Dessert was ice cream, pineapple or ginger cake. Service was friendly and they were very good with working with the dining plan. We were seated with another family, parents with a dd5, and had a pleasant discussion with them during dinner. It seemed like they tried to match up the diners (families with families, adults with adults) from the little we saw. Our kids love Japanese steakhouse food, so they were very happy. The menu at Spoodles is fairly limited so it may not appeal to everyone, although dh and I have no problem finding things we liked. Spoodles is the one place my dd said "no way" to the adult menu but she loved the kids steak meal and app and dessert choices, which was more than enough food and, as I mentioned above, still pretty pricey. But Spoodles is a great dining plan maximizer, again our bill was over $160 and we didn't even take advantage of "add ons" or other things that they were offering for free on the plan. Spoodles was a much longer meal for us than Teppanyaki, which was great since we had no plans but might be a problem if you were on a schedule (I don't know whether our experience is typical since it was our first visit to Spoodles). Hope this helps!
 
Thanks Ratfam!

You know, something that was a good point.... My DS will be paying as an adult, but what I'm thinking... My DD will eat a lot more things than he will... she won't eat MUCH, but she'll eat a couple of shrimp & she does like fruit and corn... so, in places where he won't eat the appetizer or some portion of the meal, I'll let her take a stab at it :) She'll just take the shrimp and leave the rest to be honest... Neither child eats steak... they will eat hamburger's however :rolleyes: Neither one likes seafood either :rolleyes: But she'll eat shrimp LOL.... the other thing, they'll eat dessert, so it might all work out & they might surprise me! Thanks for posting....

Oh, is Spoodles a Signature restaurant?
 
Spoodles is not a signature restaurant, just 1 ts per person! (and well worth it, in my book)
 
I have made all my ADRs, and they include Teppanyaki and Hollywood & Vine. I am second guessing these choices now because I have heard how limited Teppanyaki is, and I am wondering if there is a better MGM TS choice than H&V for DH, DD3, and I. I love Japanese food, but have only eaten it as take out. Did you find that it was enjoyed by your whole family and an ethnic tasting meal, or was it more like just ordering a steak at a regular restaraunt? What did you order as your appetizer, and how was it? Also, we have done H&V several years ago when they had characters & enjoyed it, but we haven't been there in a while. We booked this for our first night, with the Fantasmic dinner pkg. Is this the best choice for DD3, or should we go with Mama Melrose, Sci Fi, or 50's Prime Time? We've never been to any of these places, but I am not a big fan of Italian food or meatloaf, and we eat at the diner a lot at home. The PB&J shakes sound awesome, though. Is having the Fantasmic pkg worth passing on the other TS choices mentioned? We are going 9/8/06.
 
Hi frannn! I would definitely recommend that you do the Fantasmic dinner package, especially with a 3 year old. With the package you can walk in half an hour before the show and be assured a decent seat. We have never done Fantasmic without the dinner package, but from what I have read, I understand that people go 60 to 90 minutes early for seats, and that's a long time to sit around with kids. It will be less crowded in September when you're going, but since you aren't paying a premium for the Fantasmic package, its included on the dining plan if you have it and you need to eat dinner anyway, I think its worth it for the convenience even if there may be better restaurants in MGM. As far as H & V, I did a separate review on the restaurant forum, but I thought the food was in some cases good and in others average, but we didn't find anything to be terrible and it was all hot, fresh and replenished frequently and the buffet was clean. The main drawback for us was that it was incredibly noisy and full of kids in mid-meltdown and yelling parents. Maybe it was an off night. That being said, we have done Mama Melrose twice with our kids for Fantasmic dinner package and we went to H & V because we wanted a change. Our kids were definitely much happier with the meal at H & V, all they ever seemed to eat at Mama's was a plate of plain pasta, they never really liked the things that were served family style with the dinner package. If you decide to skip the Fantasmic dinner package I would probably opt for 50's over Sci Fi for your family. We have taken our kids to 50's in the past and they thought it was really fun. We did Sci Fi this trip for the first time at our dd's request, and it was a lot of fun but pretty dark and ds7 didn't really like the "monster" movie clips, don't know how a 3 year old would react (they are really much more campy than scary, but that concept was definitely lost on him). 50's would be safer.

As far as Teppanyaki, we all really enjoyed it and didn't feel we were particularly limited, although the menu has fewer apps and desserts than some places. Adult app choices are salad with ginger dressing, miso soup, edamame or seaweed salad (they serve a small portion of the seaweed salad for free with the meals as well). Dessert choices were ice cream, fruit (pineapple when I had it) or ginger cake. We were able to order any entree or combo on the menu, I think they must have removed the lobster. Sushi appetizers were a la carte. It was similar in style to eating at one of the chain Japanese steak houses, but we felt that the quality of the meat and seafood was better. We all enjoyed the food, but we did know what to expect since we have eaten at these type of places twice before with the kids and they love them. At its core the food is fairly simple, which is one reason I think it can be a good choice for kids, but the whole meal has an ethnic flair and the Japanese servers were all very kind. The cooks, who are cooking right in front of you, seem to play to the kids, so it is a fun experience, especially if you haven't been to this type of restaurant before.

Sorry so long winded, hope this helps!
 





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