OT: So I get a call with a job offer ...

rebecca314

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Anyone else ever felt this indecisiveness?!?!?! I am a HS Spanish teacher, but I have Math teaching experience. A school district asked me to interview for a Math job and then offered me the position!!! It pay more than $20K above what I make now ---- so why do I feel like crap?!?!?!

One question in the interview was whether or not they'd let me take Leave Without Pay for our Disney trip the 1st week of May. They were somewhat OK with it ... but they wouldn't lock in.

This new job is only 11 miles further than I currently drive --- why am I so freaked?!?! I think Spanish is easier to teach than Math ... can it be that simple?????



UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
First of all, how can one district pay you 20K more?

Second of all......we moved 2 years ago and I haven't been working. I was a high school counselor and tried really hard to get a counseling job here. It didn't happen. I was offered an English position at a local high school. I was hesitant to take it because I really wanted to wait for counseling, but I was very worried counseling wouldn't amterialize for this next year and decided to take the English position and get my foot in the door.

Part of the problem with having multiple credentials is that you are qualified for too many things! I am thankful, but sometimes I get jobs that are my 2nd choice because of it.

Dawn
 
Maybe you feel bad about leaving your current school? Money is not everything and your gut instinct is telling you this might not be the position for you. Can you take some time to think about it?
 
If possible, teach what you love. Teachers who are happy with their teaching assignment are more effective!!!! If you are happy at your current school with your current assignment AND you can afford to stay - then stay!!!

Personally, I've several different subjects and I know that I am much more effective when I teach a subject I love!
 

First of all, how can one district pay you 20K more?

Second of all......we moved 2 years ago and I haven't been working. I was a high school counselor and tried really hard to get a counseling job here. It didn't happen. I was offered an English position at a local high school. I was hesitant to take it because I really wanted to wait for counseling, but I was very worried counseling wouldn't amterialize for this next year and decided to take the English position and get my foot in the door.

Part of the problem with having multiple credentials is that you are qualified for too many things! I am thankful, but sometimes I get jobs that are my 2nd choice because of it.

Dawn

The district I am in is a rural district that has been in financial trouble for years. The high school isn't expected to last another 3 or 4 years. They let me begin teaching Spanish while I finished getting my Spanish credential. (The year prior to that they offered Spanish classes but did not have a teacher ... so much for high quality education!)

At any rate, to save money, the district I am in does not contribute towards retirement - that is taken out of our salary. They pay a little towards health insurance but then we pay around $200/ month additional. The new district's salary is $11K over what I make now, plus they pay retirement and give a $750 cash allowance per month to go towards insurance. If you opt not to take insurance then they pay you that amount.

This district is by far the highest paying one around here. I didn't apply for the job - they contacted me - which I found so surprising because I would have thought they'd have tons of applications. The principal mentioned lots of first-year teachers applied but that they wanted someone with experience, who they could count on the be around for the long haul.

I'm still not sure what to do. I spent many years teaching Math and could do the job, but I'd not be able to have dance lessons like I do in Spanish class. Oh well ... I have a couple days to think about it.
 
I'm not too sure about the dance lesson part. The calculus teacher at our high school is on video doing a great dance as part of her lesson!:banana:
Seriously though, take the time they've given you to think about it.
 
Well, I don't know if teachers ever think of these things (I had some spectacularly BAD teachers in my life, not even counting the one who had a nervous breakdown in front of our 5th grade class....and then was back to teach the SAME GROUP for 6th grade), but how would you serve kids the best?

Are you a terrific Spanish teacher? I had one lackluster one (who was vague enough about one of the tenses (the little used one that I'm forgetting right now) that I got every single question on a quiz wrong (I was an honors student who grew up around people speaking Spanish every day including my best friend's family, and I shouldn't have been so confused)). Then I had one great one (native Spanish speaker) that I took classes from the next 3 years.

When i was in HS in California, you had to take a math class every HS year, and then I went on to Minor in it in college, so I've had a couple math teachers. There was the surprisingly good one who was otherwise the baseball coach (though he was also distractingly cute and young for a 10th grade girl to learn easily from, LOL). Then there was the head of the math department in college who was the WORST teacher in the universe, and who thought it was appropriate to have questions about the Beatles as the ONLY extra credit questions on his exams (nothing math related). I failed Linear Algebra from him that year and had to take it again, and got a B- from a different teacher (it was the last to get the minor so I really had to re-take it).


You could CERTAINLY find a way to include dance lessons in your Math classes.

So if you're a better, more inspirational, math teacher than you are a Spanish teacher, that's on the side of switching.


When you first said "rural" school I was in favor of you staying, because rural kids get such cruddy teachers in general. There are brights spots every so often, like at my one-room schoolhouse in the mountains above Cupertino, CA where I spent my 4th grade year. Kindgergarten teacher, 1-3 teacher, and 4-6 teacher/principal (plus one 7th grader whose mom wasn't ready to 'send him down the hill' for junior high school). BEST school experience of my life. But other than that, it's slim pickings for good experiences.

So are you doing more in the Spanish position at the small and dying school, for while it exists?


When you first mentioned the money, I had one thought, but then when you described your current and horrible-sounding contract, I thought purely for finances you'd be better off taking the new job.

But I wouldn't take it JUST for money. Teachers who are burned out in their subjects (or with a couple of their students like my 5th and 6th grade teacher), who are just waiting it out for retirement, or who have just taken jobs b/c of better money are better off being elsewhere. Or rather, the students are better off with the teachers being elsewhere.

So if you'd hate the job and only took it for the money, dont' do it.


And lastly, DH has been called out of the blue for jobs before. And it's a very shocking feeling! I think that deep down we all can't quite believe that we're good enough for someone to want us for a job we haven't applied for, and it can cause more difficult feelings that simply getting a call for an interview for a job you applied for. So maybe that's behind your ambivalence, that you can't believe you're good enough for a district to just flat out WANT you to teach there. And I'd say, unless the hiring people have lost their minds or want their Math program to fail, that they think you ARE worth it, and they do want you and are willing to pay a nicer wage for you. :)
 
Given that the job you are in now may not be around for many more years, here is what I personally would be inclined to do in your situation......

Take the new job as you know the security of having a job will be around a lot longer.

Try to work your way into a job you really love after you get your foot in the door.

This year I will be going back to the classroom. We moved and in our new area I was not able to get a counseling job, but I was offered a teaching position and will hope to "network" my way back to the counseling office.

Dawn
 
I'm also a teacher (special education) and 21 years ago, I decided to take a job that paid LESS money. I did this to get into a district that would be better for my children (rural, less drugs, etc. to worry about). I am so glad I did. It was better for my own children and for me. The children in the other district had major behavior problems and the one I'm in now are great, not perfect, but much better than the others were. I haven't regretted my decision one bit.

I would try to call/talk to teachers from the district that you are thinking about changing to, so you can get a feel for the work climate at the school and see how student behavior compares to where you are now. That could be part of your unease about changing jobs. Good luck! :)
 
You guys are awesome! I feel a lot of support here and have been given some good suggestions. i am meeting another teacher this morning at a park with her kids to talk ... just to get an idea what is going on and whether or not I would enjoy the new school.

I think I do well at both Math and Spanish. I have a lot more tricks up my sleeve in Math because I did it for so long before starting Math.

Thanks for the help!
 


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