OT: Need advice about bad job-related situation

[prncess674]

I understand that you went thru the official HR channels, but in corporate America you work your connections. Never in a million years would I depend on HR solely.

Did you deliver your resume to the hiring manager? Did you even talk to the hiring manager informally to talk about your skills?

 

[lillygator]

Since the person who was hired is an internal employee, my bet is she had the job before it was posted, they just had to go through the formality of posting it. I work for a large company and this is frequently the case when there's a job opening.

If they would have interviewed you and then hired her, you would have have been saying why was she more qualified? They avoided that by "losing" your application. Or for some reason, they did not want to hire you for that position.

I think your best bet would be to talk to your manager and express what you are interested in and ask what you need to do to get there.

even though hr apologized and admitted they were wrong I am betting this is what happened.

I really can't understand what more you expect to happen by pushing the issue.

me either....


and really, you've worked there for 6 years with no interest (until now) of more hours or moving into a different position? If I was in hr and was weeding out resumes, I would have probably not included it as well.
good luck with the job hunting (after your vacation!!)

 

[aprilfoolwed]

even though hr apologized and admitted they were wrong I am betting this is what happened.

me either....


and really, you've worked there for 6 years with no interest (until now) of more hours or moving into a different position? If I was in hr and was weeding out resumes, I would have probably not included it as well.
good luck with the job hunting (after your vacation!!)

I am guessing you have never been a Stay-at-home mom? I worked there in a position that had many more hours/week before the birth of my youngest child. Then I reduced my hours. Lots of people do this - I don't think it's that hard to understand why I would do that. I work on a Saturday - when my DH is home with the kids and we don't have to worry about child care. Now that my little one is going to school in the fall, I am in a different situation.

Since there is a policy in our company that internal applicants get an interview, it's really that HR made a mistake. Sure, they could want a specific person in the position, but they would have had to jump through the right hoops before offering to said person. They messed up. I am not a lawyer, and I don't plan on consulting one at this point, but I do believe I would have a case here since I was supposed to be given an interview as long as I met the minimum qualifications for the job. I wasn't given that, and lost an opportunity. HR admitted to their negligence.

 

[lillygator]

oh no, I get the whole stay at home thing, but I would think over the course of six years you would want an hour or two more a week at some point, or maybe to do some other area of work or add something to your job...I know some people are content doing the same thing for x amount of time.

 

[piperdown]

I am guessing you have never been a Stay-at-home mom? I worked there in a position that had many more hours/week before the birth of my youngest child. Then I reduced my hours. Lots of people do this - I don't think it's that hard to understand why I would do that. I work on a Saturday - when my DH is home with the kids and we don't have to worry about child care. Now that my little one is going to school in the fall, I am in a different situation.

Since there is a policy in our company that internal applicants get an interview, it's really that HR made a mistake. Sure, they could want a specific person in the position, but they would have had to jump through the right hoops before offering to said person. They messed up. I am not a lawyer, and I don't plan on consulting one at this point, but I do believe I would have a case here since I was supposed to be given an interview as long as I met the minimum qualifications for the job. I wasn't given that, and lost an opportunity. HR admitted to their negligence.

You may very well have a case, however, what good would it do you to pursue it? Another person is already in that position. Would you have them remove that person, then re-conduct the interview process? Even if they did start the interview process over, do you honestly think they would consider you after all the disruption over the situation? It really stinks for you, but I think you should just let it go and hope that a new position comes available. Given that HR admitted to the error, they might be a little more helpful when you apply for another position.

 

[Arielle22]

I am guessing you have never been a Stay-at-home mom? I worked there in a position that had many more hours/week before the birth of my youngest child. Then I reduced my hours. Lots of people do this - I don't think it's that hard to understand why I would do that. I work on a Saturday - when my DH is home with the kids and we don't have to worry about child care. Now that my little one is going to school in the fall, I am in a different situation.

Since there is a policy in our company that internal applicants get an interview, it's really that HR made a mistake. Sure, they could want a specific person in the position, but they would have had to jump through the right hoops before offering to said person. They messed up. I am not a lawyer, and I don't plan on consulting one at this point, but I do believe I would have a case here since I was supposed to be given an interview as long as I met the minimum qualifications for the job. I wasn't given that, and lost an opportunity. HR admitted to their negligence.

I am in HR although I do not handle recruiting.

An interview is not a guarantee for the position (no matter your qualifications). You have no idea who the other applicants were and what thier qualifications were. A detrimental reliance claim is what you are thinking of. They are hard to win because you need to show that the company did something that caused you to lose income. If the company can convince the judge that you would not have been given the position then you would lose. These claims usually happen when a person quits a job due to a job offer and then the new job falls through.

I have read all the posts but still have a question. What would make you happy at this point? What is it that you want HR to do? She apologized and said to reapply. Do you want them to reopen the interviews so you can interview? What did you tell HR you would like to see happen?

 

[undertheradar]

I am guessing you have never been a Stay-at-home mom? I worked there in a position that had many more hours/week before the birth of my youngest child. Then I reduced my hours. Lots of people do this - I don't think it's that hard to understand why I would do that. I work on a Saturday - when my DH is home with the kids and we don't have to worry about child care. Now that my little one is going to school in the fall, I am in a different situation.

Since there is a policy in our company that internal applicants get an interview, it's really that HR made a mistake. Sure, they could want a specific person in the position, but they would have had to jump through the right hoops before offering to said person. They messed up. I am not a lawyer, and I don't plan on consulting one at this point, but I do believe I would have a case here since I was supposed to be given an interview as long as I met the minimum qualifications for the job. I wasn't given that, and lost an opportunity. HR admitted to their negligence.

OP, you believe you have a case due to not getting to interview? This from a one day per week, 5 hour shift worker? This is a seasonal(school year) position to boot? You already learned that the union does not represent you, what other angles do you believe you could try? Since you have already posted that you don't intend to return to your position when it starts up again in the Fall, what is the point of causing all of this fuss? It reads as if you didn't do a very good job of representing your wish to receive more hours once your youngest starts school in the Fall. To be fair, how many people work in the area you were trying to interview for?

 

[Imzadi]

I am guessing you have never been a Stay-at-home mom? I worked there in a position that had many more hours/week before the birth of my youngest child. Then I reduced my hours. Lots of people do this - I don't think it's that hard to understand why I would do that. I work on a Saturday - when my DH is home with the kids and we don't have to worry about child care. Now that my little one is going to school in the fall, I am in a different situation.

It really doesn't matter what anyone does at home or off work hours. What matters is what her job performance has been for the past 6 years ON the job. She's shown no intent of upward mobility or ambition to further her career, her hours or position. That is what they look at - her WORK record.

Do you actually think HR resources looks at her resume & work record and says, "Oh she's been doing this for 6 years. She even took time off for maternity leave. . . Hmmm, her child must be ready to start school, so she will be willing to up her hours now."

This is probably why they didn't even conceive to ASK her right away if she wanted the position, when the position was developed.

What people do at home has no bearing on her work, unless what she does somehow has a negative impact with being associated with the company, like if she was a school teacher doing porn and the films were publicly released.