OT: Ebay pulled my homeschool curriculum auction..help

[rcpae]

I am so frustrated right now. I was selling a set of Math U See Gamma curriculum on ebay. My set included the Student Text, DVD, Test booklet & Teachers Manual. The auction was set to end on Tuesday and today I get an e-mail that they pulled this auction due to a policy on selling teachers editions?? I have never heard of this. Not to mention that there are many of these auctions still going on and also completed auctions that I based my listing from.

Is anyone familiar with this? I have sold most of my curriculum on ebay and have never had this problem.

Thanks for any help.

 

[sap1227]

I have heard they are not allowing teacher's editions on Ebay

Sorry!!
Christy

 

[disneysnowflake]

We use K12 materials. I was told when I ordered that I was not allowed to resell the teacher guide.
There is a resale group I belong to that also won't let you sell the teacher guide, either.

 

[luv2nascar]

could you list all the student stuff for sale and list the teacher's manual for free if they buy the student stuff?? Just a though you technically would not be selling it then.

 

[DawnM]

I have also heard they are not allowing teacher guides and I also heard a rumor that they were not going to allow full curriculums anymore.

I don't really understand why at ALL! This will just cause HS moms to form their own place to buy/sell materials. You would think Ebay would want the revenue.

Can anyone explain the reasoning to me?

Dawn

 

[DiznEeyore]

I don't understand that AT all! I've bought almost all of my parent editions for ds' Abeka curriculum on eBay in the last month or so. Do you think it's the fact that they're listed as "parent" editions instead of "teacher" editions that makes the difference? And even if that's true, why on EARTH would they have such a strange rule??

 

[CarolA]

They have the rule because the publisher wants them too... Ebay will do whatever the "big corps" want to avoid a lawsuit. The publisher loses money EVERY time you don't buy direct...

 

[Maybelle]

This really surprises me. I buy curriculum from e-bay every year, including instructor's guides. I'll be really disappointed if I won't be able to next year!

 

[disneysnowflake]

It is true. If you stop people from reselling materials then they families would have to pay full price to buy from the publisher.

I tried to sell Close to My Heart rubber stamps on ebay. They got pulled. I was told it was due to copyright issues since I posted a picture of the stamps in my auction. What Close to My Heart really wanted is for me to dispose of my stamp so that everyone will buy directly from them. Never mind these stamps were old and not sold in the catalog anymore.

It's all about getting the most profit from the consumer.

 

[lovetoscrap]

I am trying to buy my stuff for next year and am noticing that most are now being listed and "Parent Manuals" or " Home Educator's Manuals" or something similar. Try doing a search of some of the homeschool stuff (I have been looking at BJ and AOP) to see how people are rewording them. I also noticed it with Saxon auctions.

I assume that ebay has some sort of "word filter" that it is using to look for TE's since I can't imagine that a human can get through all of them. I think by using the other wording you might avoid that.

I think you could also use the idea of including the TE for "free" with the purchase of the other stuff, but you might not get as much money for it.

 

[crazymomof4]

I am interested in this subject bc. I was going to list some workbooks (w/ teachers guides) TONIGHT!

I just did a search of "teachers manual" and got 103 active listings.
Then did a search of "teachers guide" and got over 300 active listings.

I'm confused?

Are teachers guides/manuals allowed or not?

Or are these active listings ones that "slipped through the cracks"? (didn't get caught)

 

[TBGOES2DISNEY]

Some teacher's guides, like K12's, are considered copyrighted information. It means even if you bought a copy of their manual that they still own that information. With K12, it is mainly b/c they want you to buy access to their online school. If everyone started selling TEs they would lose a lot of money.

Now, I'm not sure about other HS curriculums though. Some of those have resale of texts and TEs on their own websites.

I think it is just ebay doing a wide sweep to protect themselves. B/c some people sold stuf they weren't supposed to, now everyone is being punished for it.

 

[Ladybugsy]

I always buy and list my homeschool books on vegsource. They have a HUGE buy/sell board there, and I've never gotten burned. Plus there's no fee!

 

[Belle5]

It is really crazy! We have had SEVERAL of our sales pulled. Some were pulled right away. Some were pulled right as we sold the item. We actually were suspended for a day. We went over to Vegsource and sold items within a day with no fee. Another good site is Homeschoolclassifieds.com. Most of our ebay auctions that have been pulled have had the term "parent's manual" used. Sometimes we have relisted the same way and not had it pulled. My GF listed several items last week all using the term "parent's manual" and two of her auctions were pulled.

 

[grlpwrd]

Some teacher's guides, like K12's, are considered copyrighted information. It means even if you bought a copy of their manual that they still own that information. With K12, it is mainly b/c they want you to buy access to their online school. If everyone started selling TEs they would lose a lot of money.

Now, I'm not sure about other HS curriculums though. Some of those have resale of texts and TEs on their own websites.

I think it is just ebay doing a wide sweep to protect themselves. B/c some people sold stuf they weren't supposed to, now everyone is being punished for it.

It sucks.

I have had great success at vegsource.com, too.

GL all!

 

[disneychrista]

Try relising and not "selling" the Teachers Edition. Include it has a FREE BONUS.

Kinda like the I am selling my time not the coupons auctions.

 

[dsanner106]

Sell it as a full package, everything you need to take the course and free ancillary materials. As far as copyright on teachers editions, that is not the case. They are no different than the books in that once the publisher sells them, or gives them away, they no longer own them, the recipient does. As with a car or any other product you buy, it is yours to sell again, you just can't copy it and sell it, hence the name copyright.

Drew

 

[ptrbryant]

Each year, I've sold the Math-U-See Teacher's Manual and DVD on eBay. When I tried to sell the Delta set this year, it got pulled about an hour before the auction ended...and I'd had a high bid on it!!! I guess I'll try vegsource, too...I used to use them before eBay!

Karla B.

 

[TBGOES2DISNEY]

Sell it as a full package, everything you need to take the course and free ancillary materials. As far as copyright on teachers editions, that is not the case. They are no different than the books in that once the publisher sells them, or gives them away, they no longer own them, the recipient does. As with a car or any other product you buy, it is yours to sell again, you just can't copy it and sell it, hence the name copyright.

Drew

Okay, so I got the terms confused. Copyright is not the right term. My point WAS that they don't want you to resell them. K12 has some fine print saying that you are not allowed to. I don't know the proper term or the legalities of it all. I was just trying to point out how the business sees it. I don't think it's fair either, but they let you know up front. I don't understand with other hs companies why their teacher's editions are being pulled off e-bay. Like I said before, maybe e-bay is just trying to cover all their bases. I'm just speculating here. I'm no expert - obviously. hee hee

 

[TBGOES2DISNEY]

Okay, I looked it up b/c it was driving me crazy. Here is a copy of K12's terms. Maybe you could look up the terms of the materials you are selling. I'd be very surprised if most HS companies have a problem with people reselling, as they know that is how a lot of HSers get by. Anyway, to satisfy my curiousity and maybe yours:

"Can I resell my printed materials?

No. The Student and Teacher Pages by K12 Inc. are intended solely for
the use of the family who originally purchased those products; and
the customer is not allowed to resell or transfer the intellectual
property in those products to a student who is not a part of that
customer's account."

And the Terms of Use from the OLS (this part is an online thing):

"PROPRIETARY RIGHTS

You acknowledge and agree that all content, software, and materials
available on the OLS are protected by copyrights, trademarks, service
marks, patents, trade secrets, or other proprietary rights and laws.
Except as expressly authorized by K12, you agree not to sell,
license, rent, modify, distribute, copy, reproduce, transmit,
publicly display, publicly perform, publish, adapt, edit or create
derivative works from such materials or content. Notwithstanding the
above, you may print or download one copy of the materials or content
on the OLS on a single computer for your personal, non-commercial
use, provided you keep intact all copyright and other proprietary
notices. Systematic retrial of data or other content from the OLS to
create or compile, directly or indirectly, a collection, compilation,
database or directory without permission from K12 is prohibited. In
addition, use of the content or materials for any purpose not
expressly permitted in these Terms is prohibited. The K12® Online
School is patent pending."