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I'm convinced that windmill is from Fairy Tale Land, but it hasn't appeared in any of the episodes YET. I believe it caused a spark of memory in him (just like the mobile captured him), so he automatically assumed it was from the memory Katherine planted inside him already.

I can't figure out how Katherine has pictures of the two of them together in Storybrooke when he's been in a coma all this time...



I am not so sure that Katherine planted the memories of her and David in David's mind. I think Katherine also believes she was married to David. In the episode with David's homecoming there is a scene between Regina and Katherine where Katherine tells Regina it is so nice to have a friend in town.....she also tells her something else about loving David...and some other stuff I cannot remember. That scene made me think that she is not in on the fake memories of her and David....she truely believes they were married. I think something else happened between then that we have not seen yet.
 
I didn't think so either.

I had my computer open with pictures of the actor ( a google search, so many pictures, not just one or 2) at the same time as I had the scene of the man in the Tavern paused on my tv screen on demand, so I could compare them very well.
If I had played the episode on my iPad instead of the TV, I could have paused it and gotten a screen capture. Maybe I will see if I can do that.
 
I had my computer open with pictures of the actor ( a google search, so many pictures, not just one or 2) at the same time as I had the scene of the man in the Tavern paused on my tv screen on demand, so I could compare them very well.
If I had played the episode on my iPad instead of the TV, I could have paused it and gotten a screen capture. Maybe I will see if I can do that.

You're too funny!
 
My observations from watching the Marathon...

1) When Prince Charming is fighting off the Queen's men with his infant in his arms, she is wrapped in a white blanket with purple bows. You can see this same blanket when Emma unpacks her few belongings at Mary Margaret's house. I'm thinking it's going to have some significance later on since Emma still has it after all these years and the fact that they showed it.

This might be what sparks the memory for MM. She might see the blanket, have a flashback and realize that Emma is her daughter.
 

Two scenes that I need to rewatch this week...

I didn't recognize the man in the bar as Dr. Whale either of previous times I saw that scene.

I do remember that the troll bridge was over a very deep chasm and I don't remember that from the Storybrooke scene. Are you basing your theory on the similarity of the terrain around the bridge?

Actually three scenes... I want to see the end of the mine episode again. I remember seeing Snow's glass casket thing but not the trees. I don't particularly like an underground world for fairy land but if there are underground trees I can see how one would come to that conclusion.

I prefer to think that the worlds are the same just made over by the curse. If the characters become aware of who they are then more of the fairy world that is all around them would be revealed. It's not so much hidden, as overlooked.

I think the fairy tale land is underneath Storybrooke. We saw EQ had to go downstairs to get to her lair and Snow White's coffin was down in the mine shaft. If Storybrook is an upper level before it existed it would make sense that the bridge would have had a longer drop. I think the Troll Bridge and the Toll bridge are in the same place too. When James woke from his coma but before he forgot he had an impulse to go there. Maybe people should be poking around in basements looking for secret doors...lol
 
Snow's coffin deep in the mine...

ouatsnowscoffin.jpg


There are no trees in this scene. I'm not buying the "fairy land is under Storybrooke" theory just yet. I think it's very possible that the mine is where the dwarves took the coffin after Prince Charming awakened Snow White with true love's kiss.

The huntman's bar room harasser, Dr. Whale and David Anders, the actor that plays Dr. Whale. What say ye?

ouatdrwhale2.jpg
 
I'm basing it on the fact that when David Nolan awoke from the coma, he knew exactly where this bridge was located in the woods, so it stands to reason that the Toll Bridge is in the same spot as the old Troll Bridge.
That's pretty smart thinking. :thumbsup2
 
Snow's coffin deep in the mine...

ouatsnowscoffin.jpg


There are no trees in this scene. I'm not buying the "fairy land is under Storybrooke" theory just yet. I think it's very possible that the mine is where the dwarves took the coffin after Prince Charming awakened Snow White with true love's kiss.

The huntman's bar room harasser, Dr. Whale and David Anders, the actor that plays Dr. Whale. What say ye?

ouatdrwhale2.jpg
Thanks for the pics. When I watched the how originally, I thought the bar harasser looked familiar. Since there was talk that Gaston or the Beast had already been seen in Storybrook, I was looking for someone who looked similar, therefore, Dr. Whale was a huge possibility.
Here's another possible candidate for the bar guy. He is listed on imdb as a cast member (Bartholomew, whoever that is):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0374311/
In case the link doesn't work, the actor's name is Scott Heindl. He appears to have blue eyes, but could be wearing contacts. I can't find any jpg files with his picture to make a link to.
 
<theory class="hairbrained>
Snow and Charming were warned not to let Rumpel know who they were. Names give him some kind of power over people. He demanded to know Snow's baby's name.

That baby is the only person whose name did not change when the curse came. How is it that the baby "found on the side of the road" ended up with the name her mother had given her in fairy land?

The wardrobe's protective magic seems a little weak if it just randomly dropped the baby on the side of the road somewhere. Maybe, being "protected" from the curse doesn't mean being moved physically outside of the area of it's effects. Emma is unaffected by the curse anyway. Maybe the baby was protected from the effects of the curse but found in Storybrooke. Maybe she was found by Mr. Gold who named her and put her into the foster system and somehow kept tabs on her as she grew. That allowed him to find out about her baby and acquire that baby, Henry, for Regina.
</theory>
 
<theory class="hairbrained>
Snow and Charming were warned not to let Rumpel know who they were. Names give him some kind of power over people. He demanded to know Snow's baby's name.

That baby is the only person whose name did not change when the curse came. How is it that the baby "found on the side of the road" ended up with the name her mother had given her in fairy land?

The wardrobe's protective magic seems a little weak if it just randomly dropped the baby on the side of the road somewhere. Maybe, being "protected" from the curse doesn't mean being moved physically outside of the area of it's effects. Emma is unaffected by the curse anyway. Maybe the baby was protected from the effects of the curse but found in Storybrooke. Maybe she was found by Mr. Gold who named her and put her into the foster system and somehow kept tabs on her as she grew. That allowed him to find out about her baby and acquire that baby, Henry, for Regina.
</theory>
Not sure this is the answer you're looking for, but the baby was wrapped in a blanket that had the name Emma sewn on it. I guess the blanket stayed with the baby.
 
Not sure this is the answer you're looking for, but the baby was wrapped in a blanket that had the name Emma sewn on it. I guess the blanket stayed with the baby.

TBM observed that Emma still has the blanket. Drat, that weakens my theory substantially. :lmao:
 
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet.... last night, while I was getting those screen caps, I saw Aladdin's lamp in Gold's shop on a table near the dolls. :genie:
 
ok,I don;t know that any of this shows plot requires too much thought....after Lost,never again for me!
(lamelamelame)
anyway..... I finally found the 1st couple episodes on my DVR that I had missed,and got to see #1 last night....it explains some,but not much. At least now I know why the kid always calls the blonde his mother....:thumbsup2
Oh well,I'm a sucker for finishing a storyline.... FWIW,I don't like Snow whites hair in either storyline...(I know, who cares....:rotfl:)
 
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet.... last night, while I was getting those screen caps, I saw Aladdin's lamp in Gold's shop on a table near the dolls. :genie:

Yes, that was very obviously placed. In the next episode, the lamp is still in the shop but it has been moved to a different location.

There are also teas sets and candles which could be from Beauty and the Beast.
 
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Lana-Parrilla-1041311.aspx

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla: Why the Evil Queen Became So Evil


Once Upon a Time

She murdered her father, squeezed the life out of her lover's heart and conjured a curse that ripped the lives of thousands of people from their homes, erasing their memories and leaving them stranded in a foreign world. What makes Once Upon a Time's Evil Queen so evil?

That soon will be answered on the ABC fairy-tale drama, but portrayer Lana Parrilla teases that the origin of her malevolence springs from one place. "It's one particular moment," she tells TVGuide.com. "It's one thing that just explodes and branches off into all these other little things, but it's one big **** up that changes her life."

"We'll go back in time in fairy-tale land and see who she was before she became this evil queen," she adds. "The big secret will be revealed."

Before she was sending the Hunstman after Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin), she was married to Snow's father, King Leopold (Richard Schiff), though their dysfunctional union was the catalyst for her hatred of Snow. "There is an episode coming up where you do see the king and queen together and you can see the hardship between them," she says. "You learn of how unhealthy and unsupportive that relationship was. How he always favored his daughter more than her."

Whether she truly loved the king or was only seeking his status remains to be seen, but the Evil Queen is capable of love as we'll come to learn that she had a previous lover she truly cared for. "It is someone that you've met before," she reveals. "You see this really soft, vulnerable side to her. Even her voice shifts with a softness to it. She wants to love, it's just difficult for her. Once she has it, she doesn't really know how to sustain it or stabilize it."

Her inability to love was proved when she killed off the only man in Storybrooke who's ever shown her affection. "I don't think she feels good about what she did," Parrilla says of Regina killing Graham (Jamie Dornan) in the midseason finale. "You see a tear coming out of Regina's eye when she crushes the heart, which, to me, is very telling. You can see that this was not an easy decision for her."

Once Upon a Time returns Sunday at 8/7c on ABC.
 
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Lana-Parrilla-1041311.aspx

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla: Why the Evil Queen Became So Evil


Once Upon a Time

She murdered her father, squeezed the life out of her lover's heart and conjured a curse that ripped the lives of thousands of people from their homes, erasing their memories and leaving them stranded in a foreign world. What makes Once Upon a Time's Evil Queen so evil?

That soon will be answered on the ABC fairy-tale drama, but portrayer Lana Parrilla teases that the origin of her malevolence springs from one place. "It's one particular moment," she tells TVGuide.com. "It's one thing that just explodes and branches off into all these other little things, but it's one big f----up that changes her life."

"We'll go back in time in fairy-tale land and see who she was before she became this evil queen," she adds. "The big secret will be revealed."

Before she was sending the Hunstman after Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin), she was married to Snow's father, King Leopold (Richard Schiff), though their dysfunctional union was the catalyst for her hatred of Snow. "There is an episode coming up where you do see the king and queen together and you can see the hardship between them," she says. "You learn of how unhealthy and unsupportive that relationship was. How he always favored his daughter more than her."

Whether she truly loved the king or was only seeking his status remains to be seen, but the Evil Queen is capable of love as we'll come to learn that she had a previous lover she truly cared for. "It is someone that you've met before," she reveals. "You see this really soft, vulnerable side to her. Even her voice shifts with a softness to it. She wants to love, it's just difficult for her. Once she has it, she doesn't really know how to sustain it or stabilize it."

Her inability to love was proved when she killed off the only man in Storybrooke who's ever shown her affection. "I don't think she feels good about what she did," Parrilla says of Regina killing Graham (Jamie Dornan) in the midseason finale. "You see a tear coming out of Regina's eye when she crushes the heart, which, to me, is very telling. You can see that this was not an easy decision for her."

Once Upon a Time returns Sunday at 8/7c on ABC.

Let's start thinking about THIS!!
 
Okay, other than Dr. Whale, whose wife haven't we seen?

Grumpy:sad2:

Doc:rotfl:

Sleepy:laughing:

King Midas:wizard:

Marco :confused:

Mr. Gold :crazy:

Magic Mirror :scratchin:
 
Okay, other than Dr. Whale, whose wife haven't we seen?

Grumpy:sad2:

Doc:rotfl:

Sleepy:laughing:

King Midas:wizard:

Marco :confused:

Mr. Gold :crazy:

Magic Mirror :scratchin:

Why would seeing the wife matter? This was something that happened in Fantasy Land BEFORE Snow and Charming even met.....
 
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