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Small point.

Who else besides me was duped into thinking Dr. Whale would be the BB Wolf because of the scene in town? I'm hoping I wasn't the only one that was fooled by the writers.

By the way, bravo to the writers. Take the viewers exactly where they want to go... Give the viewers a chance to do a smug "I CALLED IT!" and then, whip lash them in the complete opposite direction.

AWESOME

(And yes. I did exclaim "CALLED IT!" and immediately started my churning butter dance. Don't I feel like the donkey)
 
Okay -- some thoughts as I was watching:

1. The well at the beginning is the same one in FTL and Storybrooke, right?

2. Whatever happened to Snow taking the forgetfulness potion in FTL (I don't remember that was ever resolved)? Could be happening in Storybrooke to David in reverse?

3. Could the fingerprints on the box be Snow's from FTL, rather than MM's from Storybrooke? I can't remember the sheriff/huntsman episode as to whether he showed it to Snow before giving it to the EQ.
 
You know, that would help explain why EQ/Regina is so mean and ruthless - she doesn't have a heart! I just assumed that EQ/Regina planted the box there to make it look like Mary Margaret was responsible for Katherine's

Yes, the theory of Regina being heartless came up many pages and episodes ago.

Is the heart what Mr Gold was burying in the woods when Graham found him?

I'm thinking that Snow made some sort of deal with Rumple (didn't everyone?) in fairytale times which gave her the queen's heart. Either that or MM provided the box in which Rumple placed the heart. Maybe, at some point, she needed money and sold it to Mr Gold's pawn shop.
 
Small point.

Who else besides me was duped into thinking Dr. Whale would be the BB Wolf because of the scene in town? I'm hoping I wasn't the only one that was fooled by the writers.

By the way, bravo to the writers. Take the viewers exactly where they want to go... Give the viewers a chance to do a smug "I CALLED IT!" and then, whip lash them in the complete opposite direction.

AWESOME

(And yes. I did exclaim "CALLED IT!" and immediately started my churning butter dance. Don't I feel like the donkey)


As soon as I saw the scene I turned to my DH and said... Dr. Whale is the wolf!!!!....

Later he turned to me and said...... wrong! :lmao:

No more jumping to conclusions with this show.
 

there are no lemurs in Nepal, yet Booth says he never lies...

also, then what was up with the glowing eyes bit?

was he just offering up fantastic stories to get Red to move on a bit

I may be way off but I think Booth is a/ the story teller/writer somehow moving everyone closer to remembering to set things right....
 
there are no lemurs in Nepal, yet Booth says he never lies...

was he just offering up fantastic stories to get Red to move on a bit

also, then what was up with the glowing eyes bit?

I may be way off but I think Booth is a/ the story teller somehow moving everyone closer to remembering to set things right....

Thank you for pointing that out!!

This goes in line with the spoiler I posted 2 pages back:

Securing scoop from the show bosses on the Stranger aka August W. Booth, they’re especially elusive. Heck, they wont even say if he’s genuinely crushing on Emma. “He seems to be operating on an agenda,” notes EP Eddy Kitsis, “so the interesting thing is to ask is whether those feelings are real or not.” Kitsis will confirm this much, though – August did in fact add pages to Henry’s storybook, “for a very, very specific reason.” (And I myself will offer this one piece of intel regarding August’s trustworthiness: In the diner scene of this Sunday’s episode, pay close attention to the lemurs.)
 
yes!

sorry I must have missed that post or I would have referenced back to it.

I just got thinking late last night about Lemurs in the Madagascar movies - and thought "wait, they can't be in Nepal". :confused:

so he either lies, (despite saying he never lies???) or he is telling "stories"!!!!, right?

may be wayyyyy out there, but the Grimm's were philologists...."August" is the name of a couple philologists including one man the Grimms worked with, Booth came up as the name of a modern day philologist I found at Barnes and Noble.....I went crazy googling the names and this is a loose association I came up with ...thought it was totally crazy until thinking about last night.... "Wayne"...I've got nothin':confused::crazy2: Wait!...Wayne C. Booth.....I may have missed the Wayne when I originally found "Booth"........could it be?

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rhe...02?ean=9780226065588&itm=5&usri=wayne+c+booth

also Wikipedia entry for Booth gives more on the "unreliable story teller" or whatever...

read the description for this book!!!! Can't believe I never read this given all the fiction classes I took in college....could it be the writers are very familiar?
 
In terms of Red in FTL, would Henry's book have had the real story of RRH in it? Or does it not tell the true stories and backgrounds of the fairy tales?
 
In terms of Red in FTL, would Henry's book have had the real story of RRH in it? Or does it not tell the true stories and backgrounds of the fairy tales?

he seems to, last night he said something about her not knowing how strong she is or something to that affect. ETA: when they are looking at jobs he also mentions "how about a job walking to deliver something in a basket" - I didn't think that was on the computer list, that wwas from him. Problem is, no one listens to him or takes him seriously when he talks about the book.
 
Who else besides me was duped into thinking Dr. Whale would be the BB Wolf because of the scene in town? I'm hoping I wasn't the only one that was fooled by the writers.

Nope, I fell for it too. I was like "A HA!" when Whale showed up in the episode. I never would have guessed that Red WAS the wolf. Poor Peter.
 
'Once Upon A Time': Jennifer Morrison Teases What's To Come For Emma

Posted: March 12, 2012

As "Once Upon a Time" nears its first season finale, it seems like Evil is kind of kicking Good's *** in the fairytale drama. The final moments of this week's episode, "Red Handed," saw Mary Margaret (Ginnifer Goodwin) implicated in Kathryn's apparent murder, leaving Emma (Jennifer Morrison) in the unenviable position of having to arrest her mother roommate.

Times are tough for Storybrooke's new sheriff, so HuffPost TV caught up with Jennifer Morrison for an exclusive phone interview to find out how her character is handling her sudden lack of allies, her ongoing rivalry with Regina and the growing proof that all isn't quite as normal as it appears in the tiny town.
Proceed with caution, there are spoilers ahead.

In this week's episode, we again saw Emma placing a lot of faith in her "super-power" of being able to tell when someone's lying to her, but Sidney's been playing her for weeks now. Is she going to get a rude awakening in terms of her alliances any time soon?

Yeah, I think eventually, for sure. I feel like she's always been a little bit skeptical of Sidney only because he did come from being so deep in Regina's pocket that it's hard for Emma to believe that someone could really make that much of a turnaround. But she's also in a town where she doesn't have a lot of people who are on her side. So, sometimes I think she feels that she has to take the best-worst option. It’s like she knows that there may be something to be skeptical about with Sidney, and yet, he seems like the best possible option at this point. She almost has to force herself to believe that he's going to be trustworthy because she has no other choice. He's really the only person she has access to that can get her the information that she needs and to help her try to solve this case. But yes, at some point, she will definitely have a rude awakening in terms of how deeply he's not supporting her.

The promo for next week reveals that Emma actually arrests Mary Margaret for Kathryn's murder. Obviously, Mary Margaret has been Emma's closest friend in Storybrooke up to this point, so what does this new development mean for their friendship?

It’s a really upsetting situation for Emma because clearly, she doesn't think that Mary Margaret is guilty. And yet, there are seemingly tangible pieces of evidence that point to her. Emma's sort of left with no option because if she doesn’t go where the evidence leads and actually make the arrest, then she looks like she's offering some sort of favoritism to Mary Margaret, which then makes Emma look like she's not doing her job properly, which then gives Regina a reason to fire Emma. So, there's this domino effect of problems that would happen if Emma doesn't follow through with what actually seems to be going on. In Emma's mind, even though it's a horrible thing to have to arrest this person who she truly does consider a friend and truly does believe in, she feels like she can protect her better by doing this than she can if she doesn't do it, because then she could be fired and then someone else be put in that would really take her down.

I think you've said in the past that you guys want to avoid playing the parent/daughter dynamic in Emma's scenes with Mary Margaret or David because you don't want to be winking at the audience like any of them are really aware of something, correct?

Yeah, I think that she really doesn't believe any of this at all. I mean, there's no little part of her that thinks that what Henry has suggested to her with these fairytales being true could possibly be real. So, I can't ever go into a scene thinking that she believes that. So her entire dealings with David or with Mary Margaret are always from the perspective of two people that she just met and treating them as two people that she just met. I do believe that she does feel drawn to both of them in some way. There's some sort of underlying magnetism that she feels to them. But I think she just thinks that that's because she thinks they're good people and that she believes that they're telling the truth, not because she thinks that there's any deeper meaning of them being related.

In next week's episode, we'll also see Mr. Gold as Mary Margaret's attorney. What are Emma's feelings towards him at this point?

I think initially she's very opposed to [Mary hiring him] because obviously she doesn't trust him, for good reason. Ultimately, the dilemma that Emma always ends up having with Mr. Gold, sort of from this point on, is that she does not agree with his methods and she does not agree with the way that he goes about doing things, but she does agree with his results, oftentimes. She suspects that he has ulterior motives that are serving him, but those ulterior motives that are serving him are also serving Emma sometimes. So she, once again, has to sort of choose the lesser of two evils and decide if she's going to go along with what he's doing in order to get the results that she needs in order to protect the people that she wants to protect, or shy away from all of it and try to do all of it by herself.

I think the producers have indicated in previous interviews that there will be a resolution to the Kathryn storyline fairly soon. So in terms of where you're filming now, has the balance shifted between Emma and Regina at all, or has Regina still got the upper hand?

By the point we're at right now, it does start to balance out a little bit. There's more and more building against Regina in terms of proof for other people in town to realize that maybe, she isn't just a good mayor. Part of the curse has been that people have not questioned things; they’re sort of in this haze where they don’t really think outside of what's been the norm from day to day for the last 28 years. Now, all of the things that have been set in motion because of Emma being in town are forcing people to sort of wake up a little bit at a time and go, "Wait a second, why would she do this?" So, Regina is starting to lose her footing in terms of her hold over everyone in town. There does start to be a little bit of a power shift -- or at least some sort of a power balance -- because once you plant those seeds of doubt then she's definitely not as all powerful as she once was.

The March 25 episode will see Emma kidnapped by the Storybrooke version of the Mad Hatter. What can you reveal about that episode and what he wants from Emma?

It was probably the most fun I've had so far shooting episodes. It's one of my favorite scripts. I had such an amazing time. Sebastian Stan, who plays the Mad Hatter, he’s such an extraordinary actor. It was so great coming to work with him every day. He did such cool stuff with his character. I mean, there was not a second I didn't believe he really was this guy. So, from that perspective it was just such a good time.

It does start to plant some interesting seeds in Emma, because it's another person saying to her some of the things that Henry has been saying. She can still justify it away in the sense that, "Well, maybe he read the book. Maybe there's another copy of the book. Maybe he heard about the book." But it is really the first time that there are little chips in Emma's armor in terms of her thinking; not necessarily that there really is a curse and that everybody really is a fairytale, but I think it’s really that turning point for her to realize that there is something very dark and possibly dangerous going on that she needs to try to figure out.

We now know August's name and that he's a writer, but we don't know much more than that. How are things developing between him and Emma?

Very slowly, but surely. I mean, she’s clearly very suspicious of him. He's a stranger who's come to town [and] he doesn't offer a lot of information about himself. Emma relates to that -- she’s someone who keeps to herself and doesn’t like to offer a lot of information about herself because she feels like she has a lot to hide. Because she’s aware of her own reasons for doing that, I think that makes her especially suspicious of him. So, I think the next several episodes you sort of start to see her test whether or not she can trust him. She allows him in, in little bits, and then pushes him away in other ways and sort of starts to kind of test the waters to see how trustworthy he is, where he really stands on things, and if he is safe or not for her or for Henry or for anyone. There’s definitely a bit of a dance that goes on there. You will find out by the end of the season who he is. But it's going to be a little while.

Can you tease anything else about the story lines you're currently filming?

I feel like the whole season -- the way I’ve put it metaphorically is -- we’ve been sort of climbing up the roller coaster. It’s been sort of like one notch at a time. Climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing. By the time we get to episode 20, we're hanging at the top. At 21 and 22, we're just flying down. So, all these little pieces of things that have been set up, all these little puzzle pieces that have been planted all along the way for the whole season, a lot happens really fast. All of it starts to come together very quickly. It's going to be a whirlwind at the end.
 
I think the biggest mystery is whos heart was that and who put it there? Regina keeps all her hearts in the chamber in the masoleum and when we saw Graham's heart it was in a box with a rounded top. We don't know if all her boxes look the same or not. There seemed to be a lot of drawers. When the EQ took Grahams' heart she said he was her pet and she owned him. Possible people who she may have taken their hearts will be people who are subservient to her. Sydney is likely one person who she has the heart of. I was trying to find a picture of the box EQ had her fathers heart in and couldn't find a clip or image so it would mean checking my PVR and seeing if I still have that episode and rewatching it. The pigs heart the Huntsman brought the EQ I thought was in a box but now I'm not sure and would have to rewatch that episode too. Every clip I've found online it seems like the heart may have just been in his leather bag. I don't think it's Katheryns. She says she is friends with Regina but she doesn't seem to be controlled by her. We could likely brainstorm out a few other names of people who seem to have their hearts in Regina's possession.
 
I feel like the whole season -- the way I’ve put it metaphorically is -- we’ve been sort of climbing up the roller coaster. It’s been sort of like one notch at a time. Climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing. By the time we get to episode 20, we're hanging at the top. At 21 and 22, we're just flying down. So, all these little pieces of things that have been set up, all these little puzzle pieces that have been planted all along the way for the whole season, a lot happens really fast. All of it starts to come together very quickly. It's going to be a whirlwind at the end.

Ohhh, can't wait! :dance3:
 
We could likely brainstorm out a few other names of people who seem to have their hearts in Regina's possession.

Dr Whale seems somewhat robotic as if he is under someone else's control.

How is this storyline going to unfold? MM gets arrested because of her fingerprints on a box that contains a heart. Emma runs tests to find out whose heart it is. Those tests will probably show that it isn't Catherine's heart but that of someone or something else. It most likely isn't someone who lives in town that Emma can identify because, if it were, it wouldn't make sense to Emma that they were still alive. So now that keeps MM in jail as a suspect until they can identify whose heart it is? :confused3

Could it be Red's wolf heart?
 
EMMA CONTINUES HER SEARCH FOR EVIDENCE TO PROVE MARY MARGARET’S INNOCENCE IN KATHRYN’S MURDER, AND REGINA MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN BETROTHVING A ROYAL OR BETRAYING HER MOTHER AND MARRYING A COMMONER, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

Barbara Hershey Guest Stars as Fairytale Land Regina’s Mother, Cora

Alan Dale (“Lost”) Guest Stars as District Attorney Albert Spencer/King George

Richard Schiff (“The West Wing”) Guest Stars as King Leopold

“The Stable Boy” – Emma continues her exhaustive search for evidence that will prove Mary Margaret’s innocence in the murder of David’s wife, Kathryn. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was and before evil blackened her soul, Regina must choose between betraying her mother, Cora (Barbara Hershey), and marrying for true love, or betrothing royalty and living a regal – but loveless – life; and the event that caused the Evil Queen to loathe Snow White is revealed, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, APRIL 1 (8:00-9:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
 
EMMA CONTINUES HER SEARCH FOR EVIDENCE TO PROVE MARY MARGARET’S INNOCENCE IN KATHRYN’S MURDER, AND REGINA MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN BETROTHVING A ROYAL OR BETRAYING HER MOTHER AND MARRYING A COMMONER, ON ABC’S “ONCE UPON A TIME”

Barbara Hershey Guest Stars as Fairytale Land Regina’s Mother, Cora
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This may be an odd question but is the Evil Queen's Fairytale name also Regina?
 
Okay, so what Disney character is a jokester/ causes a ruckus/ messes with the natural order of things/ plays with the queen/ is against the queen but plays jokes/ I am trying to think outloud. If there aren't lemars in Nepal (obviously I don't know my Madagascar--it seems others knew from that film), what game is August playing? Why did he lie--about that? So, if he does lie, what characters lie to play others for a fool but in a way that seems "not" evil. Does any of this make any sense or give anyone else any ideas?

I love this crazy show! and I seem to miss way too many nuances!
 
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