Oh Boy...I dont have enough money for Disney

[hambirg]

The OP isn't the only DISer taking advantage of the system. There are plenty of DISers receiving help from the gov't (WIC) while funding trips to WDW. As a matter of fact I recall at least one DISer posting about her family getting WIC, yet they own DVC.

I don't know if I totally agree with this. WIC is meant for low AND middle income families. The income qualifications are pretty high. I have no idea what DVC costs, but maybe it was bought with windfall money. . .inheritance or something. The thing with WIC. . .it's more of an educational program. And of course they are funded by how many families are on it. . .so middle income families are also encouraged to apply. When I had my two youngest back to back, I was told to apply. I really didn't think we would qualify, but we did. It really wasn't even about the free milk and cheese, but the classes they offered. They has some great breast feeding support and nutritional classes. I even have a cook book that I got that is great. It's full of simple, inexpensive recipes based on what fruits and vegetables are in season. Idk. . .I think WIC is a good program. Regardless of income. . .some people need that nutritional education.

 

[robinb]

I don't think DM409 has contributed any tax money to be spent. Did I miss the post about her having a job where she earns an income that takes out taxes on her? She is spending the tax money earned by people that work for a living that has been handed to her from government programs.

That's not what I said or meant. Jey12 said she wanted her tax money back that was spent by DM409.

I don't see feeling sorry for children who are raised in less than ideal circumstances by irresponsible parents as being off-limits at all. DM409 put this info out there on the internet for all to read. Parents who are raising their children to lie and cheat the government system instead of teaching them about morals and values aren't doing them any favors in life and are just perpetuating the welfare cycle. I am certainly not going to cheer that parent on and enable them to go on luxury trips at the expense of the taxpayers.

No one expects you to cheer DM409 on , but using someone's kids to attack them is NOT NICE. It is off-limits for me and although it appears not to be off-limits to you you should be aware that it cheapens your argument in the eyes of many. I consider it a corollary to Godwin's Law.

 

[A&MsMommy]

yowzer, I can't figure out where this thread went downhill...but is it safe to assume that DM409 and GoogleMom or whatever the OP's name is are the same person?

 

[eyor44]

I can't believe that this thread hasn't died yet.........

anyone else notice that this debate has kept on even though the OP hasn't posted past the first couple of pages? do you think people begin these threads just to see how much controversy they can stir up?

 

[bumbershoot]

...but is it safe to assume that DM409 and GoogleMom or whatever the OP's name is are the same person?

Absolutely. And a couple more usernames as well.

 

[A&MsMommy]

I can't believe that this thread hasn't died yet.........

anyone else notice that this debate has kept on even though the OP hasn't posted past the first couple of pages? do you think people begin these threads just to see how much controversy they can stir up?

Absolutely. And a couple more usernames as well.

Yikes!!!!

 

[disneyjunkie]

I don't know if I totally agree with this. WIC is meant for low AND middle income families. The income qualifications are pretty high. I have no idea what DVC costs, but maybe it was bought with windfall money. . .inheritance or something. The thing with WIC. . .it's more of an educational program. And of course they are funded by how many families are on it. . .so middle income families are also encouraged to apply. When I had my two youngest back to back, I was told to apply. I really didn't think we would qualify, but we did. It really wasn't even about the free milk and cheese, but the classes they offered. They has some great breast feeding support and nutritional classes. I even have a cook book that I got that is great. It's full of simple, inexpensive recipes based on what fruits and vegetables are in season. Idk. . .I think WIC is a good program. Regardless of income. . .some people need that nutritional education.

There seems to be alot of windfall/gift money on the DIS.

I understand how WIC works and agree that it's a great program for those in need. (I feel the same way about foodstamps) However, if a family isn't able/willing to buy their own milk,cheese, formula... they shouldn't be paying for WDW vacations. Let's face it, the money used to fund a vacation could be used to feed ones family.

I'm all for having these programs. Those who need them, should apply. I just think there's a difference between using a program because you need it and using it just because you happen to qualify.

That's not what I said or meant. Jey12 said she wanted her tax money back that was spent by DM409.

No one expects you to cheer DM409 on , but using someone's kids to attack them is NOT NICE. It is off-limits for me and although it appears not to be off-limits to you you should be aware that it cheapens your argument in the eyes of many. I consider it a corollary to Godwin's Law.

I agree with Robin, keep the kids out of it.

I can't believe that this thread hasn't died yet.........

anyone else notice that this debate has kept on even though the OP hasn't posted past the first couple of pages? do you think people begin these threads just to see how much controversy they can stir up?

The OP may have been banned. If you click her name you will notice you can't send her a PM. Not being able to get PMs and not having a signature (I don't know if she created one with the new name) usually means the poster was banned.

 

[wvjules]

The most disturbing thing about this thread isn't the OP...its those that are encouraging someone that clearly can't afford it to go ahead and go anyway because they deserve it, because you only live once, because your kids deserve it, etc. That's crap thinking. (BTDT have the t-shirt.) If a minor emergency and a few hudred dollars set someone back that much then they ave no business going off to WDW. Disney is a luxury, not a right.

 

[wtccheermom]

The most disturbing thing about this thread isn't the OP...its those that are encouraging someone that clearly can't afford it to go ahead and go anyway because they deserve it, because you only live once, because your kids deserve it, etc. That's crap thinking. (BTDT have the t-shirt.) If a minor emergency and a few hudred dollars set someone back that much then they ave no business going off to WDW. Disney is a luxury, not a right.

 

[CajunDixie]

Not for the OP but for those who questioned the free mug with the QSD Plan

2010 Magic Your Way Package Plus Quick Service Dining
This vacation package includes accommodations at a Disney Resort hotel and a Magic Your Way Base Ticket, as well as the Disney Quick-Service Dining Plan that can save you up to 20% on dining. Eat at select quick-service restaurants and receive 2 quick-service meals and 2 snacks per person per night of your package stay. You'll also receive a mug you can refill as often as you like at any quick-service restaurant at your Disney Resort hotel.

 

[bumbershoot]

The most disturbing thing about this thread isn't the OP...its those that are encouraging someone that clearly can't afford it to go ahead and go anyway because they deserve it, because you only live once, because your kids deserve it, etc. That's crap thinking. (BTDT have the t-shirt.) If a minor emergency and a few hudred dollars set someone back that much then they ave no business going off to WDW. Disney is a luxury, not a right.

But that's what works for YOU. I went decades living on the edge and never once falling off. I wasn't going to disney (was anti-disney for my entire 20s and well into my 30s) but I was doing other things.

If this thread were by someone else, someone who even just kept the same username (seriously, if she's real, she should just keep the same one...sure it sucks to have a rep but it shows bravery to stay and post and be one's self instead of jumping to new names all the time), it's just not your call to say "stay home".

She had the entire trip paid off. She was only talking about spending money and tips (which she had funded). Emergency fund or no, she basically had the entire trip covered.

 

[SandrA9810]

I won't go into numbers, but it is entirely possible to live off the assistance of others and the government to afford trips to Disney. Part of the problem with people like the OP, is they don't see the daily needs of life. They just go after their wants and desires and put their needs off, until some one steps in and provides it.

Same thing with druggies who spend hundred upon hundreds a month on drugs, but yet can't afford 20$ worth of food a week. She's a disney "druggie" saving money to get her addiction and wants and desires. She sees it as a luxury for her children, and would rather provide them with just one week of "feeling privileged", than with a life of living in better circumstances. In her twisted mind, Disney is affordable, but providing a good life is too expensive and probably means no Disney trips.

 

[Jey12]

As usual when you criticize the military the point is totally missed.

MY point is that everyone pays taxes for things they don't like so the argument "Give me back my tax dollars that go to XYZ" is not a realistic one and it is also not a scenerio we would really want hence the line in my post be careful what you ask for.

Very happy you are peachy keen on the military, some people are not so and whether or not I vote is moot. Previous poster was asking for her portion of taxes that went to social services, if she gets a refund on what she doesn't like than every one else gets one also. Then where would we be. taxes are the price you pay for the current system.

I think you missed my point completely as well. I did not say hey people receiving money from social services give it back to me. I said that I'd like it back for those receiving the money that swindle the system. Matter of fact I plainly said I have no problem with money going to those who do actually need assistance. Do I expect it back? No. It was meant in a different context than you understood it to be in. My main point was, I believe the mentality of thinking what everyone else is doing is fine as long as you don't see a direct and immediate effect on you is not possible. IMO. As you point out you don't support a certain war effort and yet your tax money is going to support it. This would be an example of the actions of others that may not have seemed important to someone at one point in time is now affecting them. This would be my point. As a society one person's actions that may not seem to be a big deal can impact and influence many others at a later time. I'm not going to go into a long discussion of my opinions of the military, government spending, tax increases and seasonal allergies. I just wanted to say that you seemed to have missed the intent of my original posting.

 

[Bitsmommy]

You are on the dining plan so you are getting mugs. No need to take them from your friend. Couldn't you find somebody to drive you to and from the airport?

You don't get mugs on the Dining plan, she isn't on QS or DxDP, is she???

 

[NaLisa]

The most disturbing thing about this thread isn't the OP...its those that are encouraging someone that clearly can't afford it to go ahead and go anyway because they deserve it, because you only live once, because your kids deserve it, etc. That's crap thinking. (BTDT have the t-shirt.) If a minor emergency and a few hudred dollars set someone back that much then they ave no business going off to WDW. Disney is a luxury, not a right.

Before it was pointed out that the OP is a known pot-stirrer, people were responding to the fact that this trip--airfare, lodging, dining plan--had already been paid for, and much of that money was non-refundable. The OP said she was simply lacking "spending money" for tips and souvenirs, and many people were trying to offer helpful advice rather than judgment.

Sorry to distrub you with our crap thinking.

 

[wtccheermom]

Before it was pointed out that the OP is a known pot-stirrer, people were responding to the fact that this trip--airfare, lodging, dining plan--had already been paid for, and much of that money was non-refundable. The OP said she was simply lacking "spending money" for tips and souvenirs, and many people were trying to offer helpful advice rather than judgment.

Sorry to distrub you with our crap thinking.

. Sorry but if you do not have access to a couple hundred dollars cash than you really should not be going on such an expensive vacation weather it is paid for or not . I am sorry but some people put Disney as their first priority and I find that very disturbing. I love vacationing at WDW just as much as the next DIS’er but you have to draw the line and if a trip is going to financially strap us or put us in to debt we do not go.

 

[Jey12]

I think we are all starting to do what the OP wanted. Argue and fight with one another. While she sits back and watches and laughs. Let's not give her that satisfaction. Even though the OP's post is more than likely bogus there were many great tips offered that can be used by actual decent people trying to plan a great family vacation. I will try to incorporate some of these tips into our upcoming trip. The suggestions I don't think were a waste of time or in vain. How about we stick it to the OP, if she is in fact the person everyone is talking about, and use these tips and have a fantastic time! Not use this as an opprotunity to bicker among ourselves.

 

[sahummel]

I might get flamed for this but I wouldn't spend $20 for mousekeeping if that is all you have. Save that and use it for your family.

Also, is it too late to change your DDP to the QSP? That would save you a lot of money, not only on the plan but on tips as well. We always take snacks with us. You can make do with snacks you bring in the airport and you can make breakfast out of stuff from home.

Even if you don't have enough to buy much there... you can still have a great time. Go and enjoy.

I second that!

 

[disneyjunkie]

But that's what works for YOU. I went decades living on the edge and never once falling off. I wasn't going to disney (was anti-disney for my entire 20s and well into my 30s) but I was doing other things.

If this thread were by someone else, someone who even just kept the same username (seriously, if she's real, she should just keep the same one...sure it sucks to have a rep but it shows bravery to stay and post and be one's self instead of jumping to new names all the time), it's just not your call to say "stay home".

She had the entire trip paid off. She was only talking about spending money and tips (which she had funded). Emergency fund or no, she basically had the entire trip covered.

Living on the edge when you only have your self to worry about it fine. Any parent that would subject children to such a life style is a nut.

I won't go into numbers, but it is entirely possible to live off the assistance of others and the government to afford trips to Disney. Part of the problem with people like the OP, is they don't see the daily needs of life. They just go after their wants and desires and put their needs off, until some one steps in and provides it.

Some people live off the government, others live off of family and friends. One group isn't much better than the other.

Before it was pointed out that the OP is a known pot-stirrer, people were responding to the fact that this trip--airfare, lodging, dining plan--had already been paid for, and much of that money was non-refundable. The OP said she was simply lacking "spending money" for tips and souvenirs, and many people were trying to offer helpful advice rather than judgment.

Sorry to distrub you with our crap thinking.

The only money that is nonrefundable are the airline tickets. The WDW package could have been canceled for a fee.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I think we are all starting to do what the OP wanted. Argue and fight with one another. While she sits back and watches and laughs. Let's not give her that satisfaction. Even though the OP's post is more than likely bogus there were many great tips offered that can be used by actual decent people trying to plan a great family vacation. I will try to incorporate some of these tips into our upcoming trip. The suggestions I don't think were a waste of time or in vain. How about we stick it to the OP, if she is in fact the person everyone is talking about, and use these tips and have a fantastic time! Not use this as an opprotunity to bicker among ourselves.

The OP is not one to sit back and watch. If she were able to post, she'd be here with guns blazing.