October 22, 2005 Roll call

Welcome back everyone! Sounds like everyone had a good time, overall.

I would have to agree with a few of the "complaints". I was not impressed with the food like I hoped I'd be. IMOP, Princess is better but then again, they didn't have the characters!

JanOhiomom99- I, too, was concerned about the 3-4 year old group. We got beeped that our 4 year old daughter was bumped by a boy and fell into a wall on the slide. She had a HUGE bump above her eye and it turned black and blue. Worst she has ever had and it's still very bruised today. That must have been some "bump". I was glad that they beeped us and said she was very brave with the whole ice deal.

I know these things happen and I'm sure it was an accident but I do wonder about how closely they watch them. I noticed everyday that more than 2-3 people would stand by the desk. I expected more out on the floor. Please let me know what happens after you write the letter. It would be interesting to see how they react.

Overall, we had a great time and was glad we didn't have really bad sea swells. No seasickness here! Hey......where were all the door signs???? I think we were the only ones on our deck!

Oh yeah, one more thing.....our neighbor parked their double stroller in the hall all the time! What a pain! We also had a double stroller and a big car seat that we managed to store in our cabin...why couldn't they???? :rolleyes:

Back to reality
 
Welcome back everyone! It was nice to meet all of you at the meet and on several other occasions onboard! We did not make it to any of the other meets due to schedule conflicts, but I did try to look for people on Pirate night. Of course I didn't find anyone as it was really crowded on deck 10. I was looking forward to all of the costumes!

Overall, we had a great time! Our servers were wonderful, the food was pretty good and the weather was beautiful. Although we did not get to do our original destinations, I really enjoyed our stops. While we had a great time, ReneeQ, I do understand your disapointment too. I was somewhat surprised that they did not do something to make up for the change in the itinerary, but I think that is decided by the Captain. That was how we got the free drinks the previous year, the captain made that decision.

This was the first year I did the spa, and it was nice, but I don't think I would spend the money again. I can do the same things at home for the same price or less. We really enjoyed Palo too.

Scrapperjill, thank you for the buttons! They were wonderful!

Pdarrah, thank you for the wonderful job on the website! It really helped to identify people that we had chatted so long with!

Well, I think I will probably not be on the boards quite as often as I was before sailing, but will stop in on occasion to see how everyone is doing.

Kathy
 
I have to agree with everyone on the board. I was really disappointed and called on 10/21/05 to find out about the changes myself. We were never contacted about the change even with five phone numbers on file not one phone call. When I called in Friday, 10/21 I asked to talk to a supervisor (Constance) she said Disney had the right to change the itinerary at any point and that was what I signed. I informed her that I did not sign any paper stating that and Disney also should have the courtesy of notifying us and letting us decide if we want to go Eastern. She was very rude! I went down to GS on Sunday and talked to a women named Lavern I explained my dissatisfaction and she had the manger of GS call me. She was very nice and asked didn't anyone ask you when you checked in if you would like to reschedual? I said no! I explained to her that we had just done an Eastern Cruise and did not enjoy it so if I wanted to go Eastern I could have gone 10/29/05 a little cheaper. She of course said I understand your complaints and I will pass it on. I have a card with the address and email address of where to write your complaints to. I will not be joining DCL any more. I did not like the way they treated this compaired to other cruise lines. Constance the reservation manager said they didn't know until Friday that Wilma was going to hit Cozumel. I told her you must think we are all idiots or we live in a box, because all the news talked about for a week was how Wilma was going to hit Cozumel, I said DCL just waited until now to tell us, so that we couldn't get out of our plans since you guys know half of us are down in Florida already. I felt lied to cheated and ripped off. I did not get what I paid for, yes I got a cruise but not the cruise I paid for. Also, I hated the fact that everyone agreed with me but nobody took the blame. This was an act of God but the lack of responsability for not contacting me was all DISNEY! Other cruise lines were offering to give you the option of canceling your cruise or reschedualing it now that is a cruise line that cares about repeat customers. Sorry I sound so negative but this cruise cost alot more than other cruises and I expect more for it! I tried to talk to the woman who books future cruises but she wanted to hear nothing of it. Isn't that a great way to drum up more business.

The Stingray excusion on CC being canceled was just like the last straw. Nice of them to tell us on Thursday....it must be a disney rule that you only have to give the paying customer a one day notice prior to changing anything. Thanks for the one day notice really appreciate that.

PS: A note about the kids club. My son had a much better time this year but last year he was kicked called a names and nobody acted on this. They want you to believe that they are always watching the kids but there is no way they are or these types of incidents wouldn't be happening.
 
Soapy...I booked this cruise through AAA. As a former travel agent for AAA I of course take all my travel business there. I am not working there now, due to the fact that I have two young girls...but anyway...my TA called me on Thursday I think it was to tell me that we were definitly doing a Eastern Itin and IF I wanted to rebook it would cost something like $85.00 per person (there were 7 of us) PLUS the cost difference of the cruise. The next available western itin cruise was late January...and the cost dif would have been something like $500-600 PER PERSON!!!
I told her..I was already packed..the boys (14 yr and 11 yr) were excused from school...hubby had taken the week off work...as well as our travel friend who was the third adult to stay in the second cabin with the boys. So what choice did we have really? Now if it had been ONLY the $85 change fee per person I would have been willing to do it. But paying the additional HUNDREDS would have been plain stupid.

As a former travel agent I can honestly say I was NOT "wowed" by Disney CL and the fact that my daughter was really hurt at the club not once but twice, and they never bothered to page me or tell me details when I picked her up was just the icing on the cake so to speak.

I will NOT recommend DCL to anyone, I have overdosed on Disney and if I see or hear another song I think I may lose my mind. They disappointed the wrong person.

DCL is a preferred vendor with AAA, giving discounts and shipboard credits to members, so I will write my letter of complaint as well as call the Disney 800 number tomorrow.

And Soapy I would love to have the complaint email and phone number you received. :love:
 

Soapy, I, too, would love to have that address. I have written my letter of complaint today and was going to try to figure out who to mail it to tomorrow.

Jan, I feel like you said exactly how I feel. Been there, done the Eastern, wouldn't have paid for it again, had we known that's where we were going. And I LOVE Disney! We are Vacation Club Members. We have booked my in-laws on this cruise, compliments of all their kids, next Oct. for their 40th anniversary. I DO think they will have a great time, as it will be their first Disney cruise, first cruise ever with a verandah, and first cruise at all in about 15 years.

But for some of us repeat Disney cruisers, I feel the magic is gone. We plan to cruise again in two years and try for the Western, and I actually spent this afternoon checking out Royal Carribbean, Celebrity and Princess. Their prices look great and maybe it's time for us to try a new ship.
 
Living here in Florida, I was extrememly disappointed. We were never contacted also. It wasn't until I looked at the website at 1pm on Friday to find out that we were going on the Eastern. One would think they would've called me. I'm a local number. Also, to say that they didn't know is completely false. Wilma sat over Cozumel on Wed, Thurs, and Friday, so how can they say they didn't know until Friday that it would hit there when it was already there.

Please post the Names, addresses, emails, phone numbers, etc. Maybe if enough people say something, we might get something in return.

As I stated before, if I wanted to go on the Eastern I would've gone the previous week when my school was out and saved those personal days for some other time.
 
I would also like the complaint email address. Their comment cards actually did not have any place to write comments.

I am in the same vote as most of you. I wanted a WESTERN cruise after taking a most magical EASTERN cruise last year.

When my Mom and I got home this year we felt that for the first time Disney had let us down.

I definitely feel that, all in all, there was Pixie Dust missing on this curise.

Yes, I realize that they had no control over the weather but we were hoping for 4 ports with a very different type of adventure and we got only 3 with a very much deja vous feeling....been there done that.

Even most of the entertainment was a repeat of our last year's cruise.


Our arrival in Orlando started with our luggage missing and confilicting stories from 4 Disney reps and 1 US airways rep each pointing the finger at each other. Thank God our luggage did arrive after all (Not sure if it was us who delayed the departure of the boat....lol).

We definitely met those obnoxious kids running around with no regards for the adults. My Mom has two artificial hips and though she walks quite well she cannot manouever quickly.

On formal night there was very little interaction between the staff and us and we felt it was actually pointless to dress up. Carribean night last year there were dances like the limbo during dinner. Nothing like that this year even though there was a band.

In one of the water competition, my 70+ Mother actually participated and at the end of the 3 activities it was a tie. Of course a Cannon Ball by the team captains broke the tie. Surely Disney has enough medals to give to the 10 competitors? I know my Mother would have been thrilled.


My Mother and I have been to Disney World 5 times and this was our second cruise. My Mom has booked a combo Disney World / Cruise Vacation for next May with her grandchildren and also another Cruise with me for April 2007, but now we are definitely having second thoughts about this!!

Where or where was the Usual Awesome Disney Pixie Dust???? It was a very sad feeling.
 
Wow... :earseek: . I know I was some what disapointed in having a change in itenary "again"...but I guess I was going into the cruise knowing that traveling durring hurricane season changes are a risk your taking....That's one reason the cost is lower durring this time of year. Although I would have LOVED to have heard of the changes sooner so we could have planned and researched the new stops. That's one thing i was very disapointed in...I liked the idea of going to the diffrent islands...but not the idea of not having a clue of what to do. I almost felt like getting off the ship in the first place was somewhat of a waste of time. After all we didn't know where to go or what to do...at first. We did read the passporter to get ideas of places to snorkel at the first island...we ended up taking a taxi to Dawn beach for a few hours of fun. But after paying $120 for the taxi there and back...no one in our group was realling looking forward to doing a taxi agian at the next stop. I also found it was VERY frustrating that the ports the ship docked at we HAD to get a ride of some sort to go anywhere....We just were not docked anyplace we could just get off the ship and walk someplace.

Call me crazy but I'd almost rather spend the WHOLE week cruising on the ship than have the changes in the ports. :teeth: Of course we had a WONDERFUL day at Castaway...the only down fall there was the day went by to fast... :rolleyes:

Oh...a couple more things....our dinning servers were wonderful...they were SO much better than the group we had last year. I didn't feel the food was as good as before but not aweful.

Well I'll pop back on the board later and add more to my thoughts...but for now I have to go do the dreaded unpacking. :confused3
 
Sorry I didn't meet anyone from here, but I saw a lot of DIS door signs. Overall, we had a good time. My 4-year-old warmed up to the kids club by the last day...arg! She loved the pool and rode the slide a million times. I was bummed about the port changes (we hit those two islands on our honey moon, so it wasn't that interesting). I did enjoy my scuba dive excursion in St. Thomas.

However, I could have done without the taxi accident! We were on one of the open tram style taxis that drive a hundred miles an hour. The driver rear ended someone as we were moving forward at a green light, from a stop. I guess the person in front of us started going and then stopped and our driver decided not to stop. We ended up refusing to pay since I banged my knee. He actually pulled over before getting to downtown to try to get money out of us and the other riders and we were like, "NO WAY!"

Scott
 
Hi everyone:

Glad to hear I am not the only one who was disappointed and couldn't find the pixie dust anywhere. We also encountered those boys and I think the cruise staff should have done something about them. Where were their parents?

Ok here is the information which I received from Guest Services:

Tom McAlsphin
President Disney Cruise Line
Disney Cruise Vacations
Guest Communications
Post Office Box 10238
lake Buena Vista, Florida
32830-0238

DCL.Guest.Communications@disneycruise.com

I told them I don't think they really give a hoot about what our feelings are after all they got our money and ran with it. This cruise was not what I paid for and I think that was very unfair of them to assume that I wanted to go!
 
We're finally back as well. We had a wonderful time. Who cares if we changed itineraries...we had never been on either, so either was fine w/ us..just as long as we cruised.

I too saw the kids a few times running amok of the ship, they didn't bother us at all though. We had fabulous dinners...the food wasn't what I expected, as that seems to be the consensous...but I am a picky eater. The 8 others in my group were pleased though.

We had wonderful people all over the place......I want to give a shout out to Marc & Chris as our waiter & asst waitor. They were spectacular. A few nights they let my youngest DD order off the menu...she wanted something else and they made it happen.

Did anyone catch 80's night...Did you see Bon Jovi's big fat drummer? That was me!!!! :earseek: :earseek:

Gotta run...will post more later.
 
We made it back safely after a nice quiet day in Cocoa Beach on Saturday. Stayed at the Radisson on the night before which was very nice (impressed) and the Courtyard night after (Radisson was booked for non-smoking, daughter has asthma) and it was OK. Right next to the beach, but it was too windy to enjoy that. More details when I write up the trip review.

Overall, I too was not impressed with Disney as a "cruise product". Compared to RCCL and Princess, it is about the same, with each having +'s and -'s (again, more in the review). Of course, it is hard to put a value on the character interaction. On the last night, we were coming out of Lumiares (sp?) and Pinoccio was hiding in the curtains. He popped out as DD passed by, grabbed her hand, and they skipped down the hall...priceless!

Timon, we were mirror images of eachother! Orlando was our room steward and I was NOT impressed with him. First, the water on the balcony (out of his control, but had to ask multiple times to have it cleaned up and even had to call Guest Services on day 2). Then, we switched dining and noone ever told him, so we didn't get our room prepared for the evening on the 2nd day (I set up DD bed). I would always put the "please clean stateroom" placard on the morning and evenings, and a lot of times, he didn't get to it. Then, Roland and Melanie were our wait staff as well ;) Roland was very happy, but made some mistakes (including telling my wife she ordered something that she didn't), and Melanie was very kind, but you could see she was still learning (Roland would often get upset at the things she did at their station). I felt they did a good job overall, but they weren't "amazing".

On the ports, I was a little disappointed, for sure, but I understand there is only so much they can do. I do agree that we seemed to dock far away from everything making taxi rides a necessity.

Kids program? Well, the first day I spent ~20min talking with one of the organizers for the 3-4 year olds and was very impressed. I did notice that during the week, there was a lot of "free play" and when I went a couple of times at the tail end of those, the children were fairly unsupervised. DD went probably 5-6 times total for about 1-2 hours each time and did enjoy it, but I can see how things could get out of control and kids might get hurt. Sorry for anyone who experienced this, I know it can be traumatic to children and parents alike.
 
To be honest it really didn't bother me that we changed intinerary's. I completely understood why. What bothered me the most was that there was no notification. I spent my entire day at school giving a lesson and then checking the website to see what it said. No one phoned, emailed or anything to let us know of a change. Also, to say that they didn't know it was going to hit was completely false when it had been in the area for at least 3 days before they even posted that we were no longer going that way. There was no time to look for shore excursions. We ended up going back down monday evening to discover that many things had opened up or that they had added a few more. I will admit we did things we wouldn't have done otherwise. Of course, having worked at Disney, I do know that they don't like to announce things until the very last moment.

We are signed up for the 4-day Wonder over SpringBreak. It would've been nice to recieve more than a 10% discount for signing up on board. Considering we get that anyway being Castway Cay Members.
 
Welcome home everyone, (back to the old grind)

The only thing that's keeping me going is knowing that we're going back to Disney World in 6 weeks for Christmas.

It was so nice meeting everyone. I think we have built lasting friendships with some of you.

We went to the Magic Kingdom on Saturday after getting off the ship and ran in to Walt & Di. Watched Spectro Magic and Wishes with them and had a great time. Those lucky dogs aren't leaving until Sunday. We think about them every day.

Timon...We enjoyed your company on pirate night. We have a great picture of you. Enjoy the remainder of your vacation.

Afoss...We were just down the hall from you. I had signs on my door. And yes, I too noticed that stroller out in the hall. I was surprised they left it out there all the time.

Itinerary... We had never been on the eastern. We obviously would rather have gone on the western, but we still had a great time. I think the DCL needs to have a special itinerary for times when weather is a problem. They should at least change it up a little to make it better for those people who have already done that particular itinerary. For example add a different island or something. They really need to have a standby.

We took a cattamaran to an island to snorkel. It was the best. As far as the stingrays, when we got to the beach on Castaway Cay, there were two stingrays swimming around us in the water. We joked that we got the stingray excursion without paying for it. That was first thing in the morning. I'm sure they took off when the beach filled up.

I have to say on our previous DCL cruises, the food was much better. Our food was always either cold or luke warm. There is nothing worse than cold soup. As far as the taste, it was ok. I like to try new things occaisionally, but food is never a big priority for me. The fancy stuff doesn't thrill me and my DH is strictly a meat and potatoes guy.

The servers...I don't get too excited or upset when the servers aren't perfect. I know they work very hard and if I get a rookie I try to make things a little easier for him or her. Everyone has to be a rookie at some point in time. We have always created a bond with our servers regardless of how they performed. Our server was pretty good. Our asst. server was fairly new but very sweet. We loved them both.

Overall, We had a great time.

Scrapperjill...Thank you so much for the buttons. You did a real nice job on them.
 
I wish we had met more of you than we actually got to. We were tardy for the Saturday meet and when I got back from running back to the cabin for something everyone had left for the boat drill. We got to meet Walt & Di at the Radisson and several time on board (great people, it was our pleasure).
Thanks to pddarah for her website we knew some people by site, never really got to talk to Timon & Cass but knew them on first sight at the Radisson also. It was unreal how busy we were from beginning til end of the cruise and unfortuantely our Palo was Pirate night so we missed that enitirely. Scrapper I want to thank you for the pins, the kids got the biggest kick out of having them ears and their names....perfect. :flower:
I know their is some agreement that the trip was not what we expected however even with the flaws, it was still a magical trip for us, especially with all the information provided by you all. Thanks to everyone :love:
 
Wanda and I had a great time. Thanks to those of you who said hi to us, commented on our door signs, etc...!! Sorry we didn't make the meeting. We were just too busy with our traveling companions from last year. AND thanks for the buttons!!!!

I asked Wanda to marry me on the cruise in the Palo, so it was just wonderful. We booked the 10 night southern caribbean for next year... maybe the honeymoon cruise.

Plenty of pixie dust for us. We cried at the farewell show. And we so much enjoyed the final get together of all the characters!!!

We booked the 10 night cruise with our traveling companions (500 hundred dollar onboard credit, wow) and next year we will have the same table for 4, I think.

What a great time we had. Got back and there is a $10.10 credit for the change in itenerary, seems a little dinky but it had something to do with taxes or something. Anyway... fun is fun. :banana:

Oh, we had no problems at all with kids but... we saw a, maybe middle eastern?, larger man terrorizing his daughter, pulling her down the stairs by her arm, she was screaming and crying. We guessed he was punishing her somehow for running on the stairs. He was yelling "so you want to run" or something like that as he drug her at breakneck speed. It was incredible. So on the running kids thing, I'm not sure Disney could be blaimed for children running amok when parents are THAT terrible. (Edit: sorry, didn't mean to juxtapose "middle eastern" and "terrorize" together. No insult intended, just a description of the man and a description of his behavior, just terrible behavior.)

This had to be the one bad moment on the cruise for us other than one ice dispenser running out at breakfast, lol.

Oh, and we did have the limbo dance at one of our meals, just like last year... Pirate's night, I think.
 
joemusuem... CONGRATS :thewave: on your engagement! I'm sure it was a magical time for your guys.

I am so surprised to read all of the recent threads on here! We didn't mind the change in itinerary, yet, we have never done the Eastern before. We loved it so much, I want to do it again! But, I've rebooked for the special itinerary Oct.14, 2006 that has the doubledip at CC. It's a surprise & my dh will probably kill me! :rotfl: (We should be moving into our new house then...not to mention that the 1st night back from this trip, we moved straight into our "new rental" house! Boxes everywhere, and I have no idea what is where... :blush: ) We thoroughly enjoyed the cruise (& the entire week prior in the Parks...), and had super servers (Pirom & Peter :love: ), and also a great stateroom host (Fernindad?). And even though 3 of the 4 women in our group got sick (bronchitis/acute sinusitus :sick: ) (and, yes, mine is still going strong...on day 13 now...), it could not stop us from having a super time. On Pirate Night, I made it through dinner at AP, even though it was absolutely FREEZING :cold: in there (which didn't help my high fever!), and then headed back to crash in the room, so I missed the deck party. :guilty:

All 4 of the 4 & 5yo's in our group enjoyed the kids club & we had no trouble getting them to go! Thank the Lord for small miracles!! :teeth: I do feel for those of you that had problems though. I attended a few of the events in the Kids Club and did not notice any problems. However, I did see the rugrats running rampant about the ship & dominating the elevators. Someone needs to bust their parents b*tts for their irresponsibility! :headache:

We didn't attend any of the meets, but the pool meet on the 1st day was smack dab in FRONT of our tables! (If you saw a 4yo blue-eyed, blond haired girl having a blast, or screaming every time down the Mickey slide, that was our wild child... :hyper: We were probably right behind her saying "KENDALL!!!!!!!!" :crazy: ) I was too shy to come over, but was glad to see so many diser's there!
 
Hello Everyone!

Well, I finally have found a minute to post and say Welcome Home! It is a bittersweet return, of course. Good to see our pets and friends and neighbors, but would much rather be seeing them on an island beach!!!

We did enjoy meeting everyone at the meet at the Mickey Pool the first day. MelissaE1: Sorry we never actually met, but it was fun passing notes with you! Who knew we would be next-door neighbors?

Anyone still rocking? :rotfl: At first it was a fun little reminder of being on the ship, but now it is becoming quite bothersome!

As for the trip, I guess we needed a vacation SO BAD that we really didn't care where we went, as long as it was sunny and warm! Of course I would have rather done the Western, but I knew when we booked the trip for October that there was a very strong chance we would be diverted. So we were mentally prepared for it.

Our servers and stateroom hostess were great, and I have no complaints with the food or service. It was just so nice to NOT have to clean and make beds, and so nice to have meals prepared each day (and not have to shop for them, make them and clean up afterward). That's what I call a vacation!

Was there some magic missing? Maybe so. I don't know whether to attribute it to the fact that it was our second Disney cruise, or if it was because DD is another year older and was not as "in to" the characters this year. I always experience the magic in any situtation through her.

All in all, it was a really great vacation for us. We got to see old friends and made some new ones! Can't wait to do a reunion cruise! :banana:

Oh, Joemuseum....we were at Palo when you proposed! What a beautiful moment and great suprise, I'm sure! Congratulations!
 
Hi Everyone - Welcome back!

Although we were, of course, disappointed in the itinerary change - we still had a great cruise! It wasn't perfect of course, but I don't really expect perfection!

I guess we were fortunate, since we did not encounter the wild pack of boys. One day we saw a couple boys goofing off around the elevators, but it didn't impact us at all since we mostly use the stairs. I think I have always encountered kids goofing off around elevators whenever I've been anywhere with elevators that go more than 1 or 2 floors - it just seems to draw them :confused3

I would have been annoyed by a stoller in the hall and would probably have called guest services. If they hadn't done something, I would probably leave my own note on it and if that didn't work, I'd start folding it up every time I passed! (Yes, I can get obnoxious sometimes when needed!)

DS6 loved the kids club as much as last year. He hasn't ever been in the 3-4 group so I don't know much about any differences with that. I would think the younger kids would have more counselors watching them. DS6 had so much fun with one of the couselors that we even listed here on the comment form as a CM who helped make our trip magical.

Our room steward was fantastic! He took great care of us and always greated us in the hall. He even noticed it was DH's birthday on Friday and wished him a happy birthday. I wasn't all that impressed with our dining room staff. They were nice, friendly people - but the service was pretty slow. They did better some nights, but our asst. server never really managed to keep up on our drinks. 4 of us drink ice tea at every meal - it was amazing how often we were waiting for refills. He never seemed to get the coffee/tea there at the same time as the dessert. However, the food was fine and we enjoyed the company at the table (Walt&Di and Dyerneeds) and most of the time, the service didn't bother us that much. The last night I was pretty annoyed since we needed to pick up DS6 from the club because he wanted to go to the "Till We Meet Again" in the atrium at 10:15. We arrived at dinner right at 8:30 and were just getting desserts served at 10:00. We had to leave them on the table and run off to get DS. They also never got around to singing happy birthday to DH - since he doesn't like the cake they do for celebrations, I had asked them to not bother with that and just sing for him.

The only other real disappointment for us was the stingray thing at CC being canceled. I really think they should have warned us when we booked (after waiting 1 hour in line on board) that they was a chance it might not run if Wilma hit the island. Since it is a regular procedure to lift the nets for a hurricane, they should have known this was possible. Had we been warned it might not run, we wouldn't have been anywhere near as dissappointed when it was canceled. We were originally planning Capt. Marvins in Grand Cayman (which we also missed last year) and I booked the one at CC on board to try and make up somewhat for that. DS6 really wants to do this and keeps missing it! I really am not sure exactly where CC is and I didn't even know it was in Wilma's path! Had I known I would have been thinking all week we "might" get to do it and it wouldn't have been too surprising when we didn't.

Anyway, that is about it for my gripes - DCL could have handled the itinerary change better and I really think there should be a refund of some sort since the Eastern usually costs less - but on a whole, we had a great time. :) We rebooked onboard for a January 2007 Western - hopefully, it will be hurricane free!!!!

pdarrah
 

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