NWA...anyone else have tickets for Fall and worried

zulaya

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I am just wondering what's going to happen. I have had these tickets for probably 3-4 months now for late Oct/early Nov to WDW.

Now that the unions have authorized a strike, I am wondering what's going to happen and if I have a prayer of finding a good airfare if I can even get my money back.
 
My tickets are for 8/23-8/30! I'm hoping either mgt is not bluffing and they can fly a full schedule as they say or that the President steps in like he did several years ago. For now, I'm just patiently watching... I've been looking forward to this trip since January!
 
Oh Yeah!!

I totally freaked out today when I saw the news. I just checked my confirmations because I booked our flights over 6 months ago for our Aug. 28th flight and I saw.......I booked on SunCountry!!!!! :banana:

I don't even remember doing this as we always fly NWA and my DH is a platinum member so we get upgraded alot. I think I just saw a 186/rt flight on SunCountry, MSP to MCO and I booked it right away!!! :rotfl:

I will send pixie dust to all of you with flights on NWA and let's hope they get this worked out!!!
 

They had a story on the news a few nights ago, that NWA has been quietly training substitute (scab) mechanics in Minnesota. We'll have to see what happens, but I'd be nervous too right now... :scared:
 
We fly out on August 16th and return on the 23rd. If they strike on the 20th, we could get stuck at Disney. Oh well! :goodvibes
 
Word on the street is that there are many out-of-work mechanics being trained in advance. Given the large number of mechanic furloughs/layoffs over the past several years by the airline industry, there are likely to be many people willing to take the work.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, because the stakes are very very high. The sunniest alternative for travelers is that the replacements are able to pick up the slack quickly. More realistically, there will be disruptions on many of the smaller/less profitable routes. The least pleasant alternative will be if the pilots and FAs honor the picket line---that will pretty much shut NW down.

I would think that late october/early november flights won't be impacted. That will be two months into any job action. By then, either NWA will have broken the union, or vice versa.

We have DTW-ORF flights 8/19-8/27 that I booked in April. I bought trip insurance yesterday to cover me in case things don't go well. However, read your policy very carefully, because some policies consider the reaching of impasse and the cooling off period (which happened yesterday) to be a strike announcement, so it would not cover you unless you bought it before yesterday. I bought my policy from CSA (via insuremytrip.com). According to the phone agent, because the strike is not definitely happening, it is not yet "announced" by CSA's definition.

In addition to buying trip insurance, you can ask the airline for paper tickets. This will cost you a small amount, but will save you a step if NW has last-minute agreements in place with other carriers to take their passengers. If you really must get somewhere, and cannot afford to be late, book a refundable flight on another carrier to be sure you have a seat.
 
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I hope we dont get in trouble, we fly back home from WDW on 8/20 using NWA. I don't know what we will do if we can't leave, we don't have enough money to stay longer. And I don't want to pay $100 for insurance just for this purpose.
 
Coming home, worst case, I suppose you get geta one-way rental car and at least get home. Long drive to MI or MN...not something I would relish.

I am hopeful that since my flights are 2 months out from the supposed strike deadline that things can be figured out by then.

If I didn't have a free ticket that I used on this trip, I would have booked on Sun Country and probably not have to worry about this. Not fun stuff.
 
A few years back, I had tix on NWA from Kansas City to Providence RI. They did go out on strike but I called around and another carrier honored the tix. I don't know if this has changed or what but I was still able to take my trip. Good luck to you...(sending pixie dust your way)
 
On No!! We fly out on Aug. 20th!! What happens if they do go on strike? Will NWA put you on another carrier or are you just out of luck?
 
They will do their best to get you where you are going, because they don't want to tick you off unnecessarily. However, you are probably looking at some (perhaps significant) delays. Get to the airport early, be willing to be flexible, and try not to take it out on the gate agents.
 
We are leaving on Aug. 21st. This is the first i have heard of labour problems. I usually do not fly NWA and now i wish i was not. This just adds stress to me. Oh well my husband says it will all work out. I worry enough for both of us.
 
#)*&^#%# it! DH is a nervous flyer anyway - if he finds out about the mechanics, he will be SURE the wings will fall off.

Someone explain to me why unions strike when a company is losing money and the industry as a whole is viewed very unfavorably... They can't be expecting much support from the public, can they?
 
They have little to lose: IIRC, NWA is proposing to eliminate a significant fraction of their jobs, and cut pay for the remainder by 25%.
 
sgause said:
My tickets are for 8/23-8/30! I'm hoping either mgt is not bluffing and they can fly a full schedule as they say or that the President steps in like he did several years ago. For now, I'm just patiently watching... I've been looking forward to this trip since January!


Rule one... management is bluffing. I had the worst time with AA at thier last strike.. they kept claiming the flights were going to fly... well they kind of did... the planes were there and the pilots were there, but no Flight Attendants so AA would take off and fly to the next city looking for flight attendants... No passengers and of course they would NOT cancel and write us over until the minute the plane left without us!


That said, NW will probably get some injunction or something to delay the strike so it probably won't happen as currently planned.

And as for the unions have little to lose.... Yes, they have LOTS to lose... thier JOBS! A job with a pay cut is better then no job at least in my world! I don't understand the union logic... let's run the passengers off and that will help us keep our jobs?????
 
That's easy to say when (a) it's not your job getting its pay cut or possibly eliminated and (b) you don't have a history of being able to bully your employer into caving.

There's a reason that NW has the highest per-pax-mile labor costs in the industry, and it's not because they've been tough negotiators with their unions. Mind you, it's not my pay, either, and so I can't say I agree with the stance, but that's got to be part of it.

This time, NW is playing hardball with training replacements even before the impasse was declared. If it's only the mechanics, I'm guessing they will fly relatively full schedules, with delays but possibly not huge numbers of cancellations. If the FAs (possible) or pilots (probably not) follow the mechanics, then all bets are off. To my mind, the FAs hold the cards.

As for the White House: they've already said that they won't step in. That could change if the impact is severe, but I wouldn't bet on it.

http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw118711_20050721.htm
 
Brian Noble...I hear you...when I heard how much these mechanics make and have been making for a long time, it is no wonder we have to pay through the nose to fly anywhere out of MSP. I'll stop now before I really :mad:
 
The other thing about mechanics is that NW probably already has agreements with mechanics not employed by them. For example, if something breaks on a NW jet in Nashville, they use a service they don't have mechanics there. Most airlines now only have big bases of mechanics at their major airports and do some outsourcing otherplaces. The question is will those other mechanics honor the strike?
 
Folks,

I'm hearing a lot of anecdotal evidence on flyertalk that the NW mechanics are in "slow down" mode---this is where the mechanics do absolutely everything "by the book" but slowly, and it can cause havoc with operations---delaying and cancelling flights. One flyertalk member has seen 3/4 of his flights in the past week delayed or cancelled (though admittedly some were due to weather.)

This means that even if you are flying *before* 8/20, you still might encounter some troubles. If you are on a flight later in the day, and you can't tolerate additional delays, you could consider taking advantage of NWA's new "FlyNow" service---for $25 per person, you can rebook on any flight that departs the same day as your originally scheduled one, as long as the new flight departs within three hours of checking in---this can be done from home. Use this to get onto the first flight of the day---that gives you more options to get where you are going in case you encounter problems. Use an availability tool the day before to see if any flights are likely to have room. Here is the one I use:

http://www.flyaow.com/classcwt.htm

If there are *lots* of seats, and you want to take a chance, you can just show up at the airport early and standby for free, but you won't be guaranteed to get on that way. In general, the earlier your flight time is, the better odds you'll have of getting where you need to go.
 





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