Now we can't wear hoops?

[Pea-n-Me]

Some think it's "racial appropriation" to wear hoop earrings if you're not from the race or culture who "created" them, therefore, others must "take them off".

http://claremontindependent.com/pitzer-college-ra-white-people-cant-wear-hoop-earrings/

Agree, or disagree?

 

[gemini2727]

That's ridiculous.

 

[L&Lfan]

I'd get points if I said what I wanted to say. Many of the comments in the original article say it all.

 

[Pkltm]

I think that everything we wear was created by someone attached to some culture, jeans were invented by Levi Strauss for labourers, how many people now where them who have never done a day of hard work in their lives?

We all struggle for equality yet we look to separate based upon earrings?

 

[Branflakes]

Wow. That's what they're focusing on in college huh. Asinine. Select classes that will provide you with a future, of some kind that you'll enjoy, show up to said classes, put in the work and graduate. Move into the real world. And manage you life independently. Or drop out and give your spot to someone who is going to do so.
All this ridiculous, made up for something to complain about attention seeking nonsense, is literal la la land.
I am so glad my kids don't live in this kind of deluded state of mind.

 

[L&Lfan]

I've heard people refer to this stuff ( cultural appropriation nonsense/whites not allowed areas/etc) as the new segregation. Totally bizarre to me and dangerous for us as a country. imo.

 

[jrmasm]

Good lord.

I feel old now.

 

[amberpi]

Meh - this is non news. Its a tiny paper, reporting on a tiny school and the people who participated are 18 and 19 years. I'm pretty sure everything that came out of my mouth in those years was utter nonsense. This isn't a movement, its some kids who learned that word "appropriation" and are SO young they brought that into something they think about a lot - loop earrings and winged eyeliner. I graduated from college just a year after this and I'm pretty sure I thought Calvinism was the reason some people in the South hung on to outdated fashion mores too. I learned about Calvin and really thought women not cutting their hair was "holding a sister down." They'll grow up and, again, apparently not really a news outlet of significance.

 

[Hikergirl]

I read about this awhile ago and it just made me roll my eyes.
In the article I read, someone noted that hoop earrings and other jewelry has spanned across cultures forever, and there really isn't any one single one that can lay claim to them.

 

[amberpi]

I may or may not have just put on my pretty rose gold hoops though.

 

[Hikergirl]

Meh - this is non news. Its a tiny paper, reporting on a tiny school and the people who participated are 18 and 19 years. I'm pretty sure everything that came out of my mouth in those years was utter nonsense. This isn't a movement, its some kids who learned that word "appropriation" and are SO young they brought that into something they think about a lot - loop earrings and winged eyeliner. I graduated from college just a year after this and I'm pretty sure I thought Calvinism was the reason some people in the South hung on to outdated fashion mores too. I learned about Calvin and really thought women not cutting their hair was "holding a sister down." They'll grow up and, again, apparently not really a news outlet of significance.

LOL, I have a 19 year old and I totally agree. When she is my age, she'll look back and be embarrassed about things like this.

 

[rastahomie]

I'm of several opinions when it comes to cultural appropriation. When I see 18-year-old white girls from the suburbs wearing dreadlocks or cornrows, I just want to slap them* - but that's mostly because they look stupid, not because of cultural appropriation. On the other hand, we live in a giant cultural melting pot. Several of the things that I enjoy - Jazz, Blues, Reggae, hell even Rock & Roll - all owe a huge debt to black musicians, and I'm whiter than Andy Griffith. Should I give up my favorite music and just stick to Bluegrass because I'm white? But since Bluegrass owes its own roots to Irish & Scottish folk music, and I'm neither Irish nor Scottish, is it cultural appropriation if I listen to Bluegrass?

Edited to Add: The "slap them" bit is hyperbole, by the way. I'd never slap someone. Dirty looks and haughty derision are about as violent as I get.

 

[MIGrandma]

This ol' world is just getting more and more stupid all the time.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Meh - this is non news. Its a tiny paper, reporting on a tiny school and the people who participated are 18 and 19 years. I'm pretty sure everything that came out of my mouth in those years was utter nonsense. This isn't a movement, its some kids who learned that word "appropriation" and are SO young they brought that into something they think about a lot - loop earrings and winged eyeliner. I graduated from college just a year after this and I'm pretty sure I thought Calvinism was the reason some people in the South hung on to outdated fashion mores too. I learned about Calvin and really thought women not cutting their hair was "holding a sister down." They'll grow up and, again, apparently not really a news outlet of significance.

Yup. It's a non issue for me.

I was also thinking they aren't referring to simple hoop earrings but maybe the bangle hoop earrings. Either way it doesn't matter.

And the things that come out of my 17 year olds mouth makes my head hurt most days.

I'm of several opinions when it comes to cultural appropriation. When I see 18-year-old white girls from the suburbs wearing dreadlocks or cornrows, I just want to slap them* - but that's mostly because they look stupid, not because of cultural appropriation. On the other hand, we live in a giant cultural melting pot. Several of the things that I enjoy - Jazz, Blues, Reggae, hell even Rock & Roll - all owe a huge debt to black musicians, and I'm whiter than Andy Griffith. Should I give up my favorite music and just stick to Bluegrass because I'm white? But since Bluegrass owes its own roots to Irish & Scottish folk music, and I'm neither Irish nor Scottish, is it cultural appropriation if I listen to Bluegrass?

Edited to Add: The "slap them" bit is hyperbole, by the way. I'd never slap someone. Dirty looks and haughty derision are about as violent as I get.

I agree. I think dreadlocks and cornrows look hideous on white people due to their hair not being made to hold that kind of hairstyle. It just looks dirty, ratty and nasty.

As for music......I go to salsa clubs and there are always a big number of white people (and black people) there. Always dancing and having a good time.

 

[cabanafrau]

This type of thinking is "having a moment" in general right now. I find it disturbing because I think it suggests our society is falling into a trap of allowing other problems to be subverted and held out instead as ethnic and/or racial issues. It's ridiculous. We're all of the human race and should be able to choose these type of style or artistic selections for ourselves.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Some think it's "racial appropriation" to wear hoop earrings if you're not from the race or culture who "created" them, therefore, others must "take them off".

http://claremontindependent.com/pitzer-college-ra-white-people-cant-wear-hoop-earrings/

Agree, or disagree?

I think hatred is boiling over in every pot and this is what you get.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Meh - this is non news. Its a tiny paper, reporting on a tiny school and the people who participated are 18 and 19 years. I'm pretty sure everything that came out of my mouth in those years was utter nonsense. This isn't a movement, its some kids who learned that word "appropriation" and are SO young they brought that into something they think about a lot - loop earrings and winged eyeliner. I graduated from college just a year after this and I'm pretty sure I thought Calvinism was the reason some people in the South hung on to outdated fashion mores too. I learned about Calvin and really thought women not cutting their hair was "holding a sister down." They'll grow up and, again, apparently not really a news outlet of significance.

To an extent, I agree, and almost wrote something very similar in my OP.

But when they college president endorses the ideas and it becomes international news, it becomes more than a "Meh".

 

[cabanafrau]

I think hatred is boiling over in every pot and this is what you get.

I hope calmer and more rational thinking prevails.

 

[Wendy31]

To an extent, I agree, and almost wrote something very similar in my OP.

But when they college president endorses the ideas and it becomes international news, it becomes more than a "Meh".

Right.

I think a lot of college presidents & faculty members are embracing & encouraging these ideas. In prior years, college was all about discussion & reasonable/logical thought processes.

Previously, you might have a group on campus who came together & said, "White girls wearing hoop earrings are appropriation," & then, if the thought was even entertained, you'd have discussion & a faculty member would say, "We see your point, but let's think about this logically."

Now, the faculty member would say, "You are so right & brave to bring this to the forefront of our collective conscious. I'm so sorry you've been offended by this. What is our responsibility to make sure everyone is 'woke' about this cultural appropriation? Let's draft a petition to present to our college president..."

And I think all of this "noise" around different things like this creates an apathy & tiredness in our "collective conscious" & then the real, important issues that need to be talked about sometimes get ignored - because, at some point, everyone stops caring.

 

[cabanafrau]

Right.

I think a lot of college presidents & faculty members are embracing & encouraging these ideas. In prior years, college was all about discussion & reasonable/logical thought processes.

Previously, you might have a group on campus who came together & said, "White girls wearing hoop earrings are appropriation," & then, if the thought was even entertained, you'd have discussion & a faculty member would say, "We see your point, but let's think about this logically."

Now, the faculty member would say, "You are so right & brave to bring this to the forefront of our collective conscious. I'm so sorry you've been offended by this. What is our responsibility to make sure everyone is 'woke' about this cultural appropriation? Let's draft a petition to present to our college president..."

If this is indeed the normal reaction to this type of situation today, I wonder how much of the change would be fed by the frenzied atmosphere of social media and things "going viral" in such a heated, twisted game of telephone these days?

The leggings on United Airlines incident is a prime example. People jumped to arms because someone made a claim about discrimination without knowing that there was a pre-informed policy It also was funneled through an individual with an agenda. The kicker is there are issues and discriminations and attitudes that need to be addressed regarding body shaming, women and dress codes in particular. Twisting an incident and attempting to manipulate public opinion with shaky factual basis harms a cause more than helps in the end. It simply allows for those who disagree issues need some attention to point to this and say, see, it's all much ado about nothing -- which sweeps all legitimate issues into the rubbish bin for many listeners.