No more HFCS in Rice Krispies!!

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

I am still crossing my fingers that they remove the malt flavoring so they will be gluten free

 

[wtccheermom]

So is this one of those "slippery slopes" that you're okay with?

I'm not.. If you, your DH, and/or your son have issues with HFCS, it's up to you to avoid purchasing items that contain it.. Just like the whole peanut butter allergy thing - that other parents are successfully dealing with.. I don't think I've heard any of those parents suggesting that pb be taken out of everything just because their own child has an allergy to it..

I agree with you 100%!!!

 

[LiberalPrincess]

Here's an interesting article

That was a great article, thanks for sharing. Aside from putting to rest many of the rumors about the higher risks of obesity with HFCS, what I found particularly interesting was this:

"Many believe HFCS is actually banned in Europe. But it's not. HFCS, known as isoglucose there, has been subject to strict production quotas since 1977. Limiting the supply of competitive sweeteners, which includes isoglucose, protects the European Union's own domestic sugar producers."

Aside from many people falsely saying that HFCS is banned in Europe, many of the same posters comment about how the US uses HFCS because it is cheaper. Which is true (and a part of good business), because of the higher tariffs on importing sugar. But this is exactly the primary reason Europe uses sugar -- not because it is healthier, but because it is cheaper for them than paying the tariffs on the imports of corn.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Obesity etc. aside- why would anyone rather eat chemicals instead of whole foods? Does anyone really think that is good? Really? It reminds me of the people who say "We didn't know smoking was bad for you!" How could ANYONE have thought that was good? I certainly didn't need resaerch to tell me that.

 

[MickeyMickey]

Obesity etc. aside- why would anyone rather eat chemicals instead of whole foods? Does anyone really think that is good? Really? It reminds me of the people who say "We didn't know smoking was bad for you!" How could ANYONE have thought that was good? I certainly didn't need resaerch to tell me that.

Totally agree with this!!! I will use my money to purchase non HFCS items!!!!

 

[clori]

I believe around Passove Coke makes a kosher for Passover Coke that is made with real sugar. I know a lot of non Jewish people in my area love shopping for coke at Passover time. I heard Pepsi has also come up with one but never seen it. I don't drink regular coke but my dh loves the Passover type.

 

[DVCLiz]

Obesity etc. aside- why would anyone rather eat chemicals instead of whole foods? Does anyone really think that is good? Really? It reminds me of the people who say "We didn't know smoking was bad for you!" How could ANYONE have thought that was good? I certainly didn't need resaerch to tell me that.

Totally agree with this!!! I will use my money to purchase non HFCS items!!!!

I just had some delicious chemicals for my dinner - iron in the red meat, sodium on the baked potato, etc.

We eat plenty of chemicals in every meal. All of those things on the side of the box are made up of chemical elements. Until I can be sure that a "chemical process" definitely means something harmful has happened, I'll take my chances on HFCS in moderation.

After all, "cane sugar" doesn't mean 5 pound bags of Dixie Crystals are hanging off the sugar canes, ready to be picked. There is a "chemical process" that happens in order to turn syrup into crystallized sugar.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Totally agree with this!!! I will use my money to purchase non HFCS items!!!!

Which is why I have been buying cereal, grape jelly and other items at Trader Joes. I have switched to mostly organic, since it contains real sugar. I buy Mexican coke or stock up on kosher for Passover coke for my kids to have a treat, since I won't bring soda with HFCS into my home.

My kids wanted the RK for dinner tonite!!

I know they will get up in time to have breakfast tomorrow morning!

The fact that Kellogg's has done this is telling me that their sales have gone down. The corn lobby won't be happy...but TOUGH!! The less processed the better!

TO those who are worried it won't taste the same or snap, crackle, pop, is just stupid. It was made this way originally, so they are going back to the original recipe, which is how most of us ate it as kids!

Now if Nabisco follows suit I can buy oreos and mallowmars again!!

 

[MzDiz]

Believe everything the government tells you. They have your best interests in mind. They are not at all influenced by mega agribusiness. They have never lied to you.

 

[JoiseyMom]

I believe around Passove Coke makes a kosher for Passover Coke that is made with real sugar. I know a lot of non Jewish people in my area love shopping for coke at Passover time. I heard Pepsi has also come up with one but never seen it. I don't drink regular coke but my dh loves the Passover type.

It is, I buy it that time of year. But Sams and Costco carries Mexican coke, so you get sugar and glass bottles! The best way to drink an ice cold coke!!

 

[Magic Mom]

Believe everything the government tells you. They have your best interests in mind. They are not at all influenced by mega agribusiness. They have never lied to you.

Who mentioned the government?

 

[Colleen27]

Ironic that they are eliminating HFCS when the whole reason it grew in popularity was it was thought to be healthier. Now they think sugar is healthier.
Some one put this post in a time capsule, I bet 30 years from now we'll be switching back to HFCS again because new research then will say it it healthier.

No it grew in popularity because it is cheaper, due in large part to our system of agricultural subsidies. Most people, given the opportunity for an apples-to-apples comparison, prefer the original cane sugar products, which is why you now find grocery stores even here in Michigan carrying imported from Mexico, sugar-sweetened Coke!

It is changing back because of consumer demand, which is only partially related to the relative health merits. Some of the concern regarding HFCS is political (our tax dollars plumping up huge companies' profit margins) and some is environmental (with much of the commodity corn planted in this country being genetically modified now, which leads to huge increases in the use of herbicides).

 

[JoiseyMom]

I just had some delicious chemicals for my dinner - iron in the red meat, sodium on the baked potato, etc.

We eat plenty of chemicals in every meal. All of those things on the side of the box are made up of chemical elements. Until I can be sure that a "chemical process" definitely means something harmful has happened, I'll take my chances on HFCS in moderation.

After all, "cane sugar" doesn't mean 5 pound bags of Dixie Crystals are hanging off the sugar canes, ready to be picked. There is a "chemical process" that happens in order to turn syrup into crystallized sugar.

This is chemical??? Crushing, Evaporation and Boiling??

http://www.sucrose.com/lcane.html


Extraction
The first stage of processing is the extraction of the cane juice. In many factories the cane is crushed in a series of large roller mills: similar to a mangle [wringer] which was used to squeeze the water out of clean washing a century ago. The sweet juice comes gushing out and the cane fibre is carried away for use in the boilers. In other factories a diffuser is used as is described for beet sugar manufacture. Either way the juice is pretty dirty: the soil from the fields, some small fibres and the green extracts from the plant are all mixed in with the sugar.

Evaporation
The factory can clean up the juice quite easily with slaked lime (a relative of chalk) which settles out a lot of the dirt so that it can be sent back to the fields. Once this is done, the juice is thickened up into a syrup by boiling off the water using steam in a process called evaporation. Sometimes the syrup is cleaned up again but more often it just goes on to the crystal-making step without any more cleaning. The evaporation is undertaken in order to improve the energy efficiency of the factory.


Boiling
The syrup is placed into a very large pan for boiling, the last stage. In the pan even more water is boiled off until conditions are right for sugar crystals to grow. You may have done something like this at school but probably not with sugar because it is difficult to get the crystals to grow well. In the factory the workers usually have to throw in some sugar dust to initiate crystal formation. Once the crystals have grown the resulting mixture of crystals and mother liquor is spun in centrifuges to separate the two, rather like washing is spin dried. The crystals are then given a final dry with hot air before being stored ready for despatch.

 

[Colleen27]

I'm not.. If you, your DH, and/or your son have issues with HFCS, it's up to you to avoid purchasing items that contain it.. Just like the whole peanut butter allergy thing - that other parents are successfully dealing with.. I don't think I've heard any of those parents suggesting that pb be taken out of everything just because their own child has an allergy to it..

But how many people are really doing that? I'm willing to bet Kellogg didn't make this change because of parents writing letters wanting it eliminated. They made the change because they, like Pepsico and Nabisco and Heinz, saw that the people who don't buy products containing HFCS were having a negative effect on sales. And since there is no counter-pressure - no one who is going to avoid a product because it lacks HFCS - it is a change more and more companies are making.

And some companies are changing their practices with regards to peanuts as well. It is much easier to find products that aren't marked with cross-contamination warnings now than even 6 years ago when I was first buying peanut-free snacks for scout outings, and you find fewer products made with peanut oil rather than a less allergenic alternative.

 

[Colleen27]

After all, "cane sugar" doesn't mean 5 pound bags of Dixie Crystals are hanging off the sugar canes, ready to be picked. There is a "chemical process" that happens in order to turn syrup into crystallized sugar.

Not much of one; we made table sugar from cane sugar in elementary school, when a classmate brought sugar cane in from a family trip to Brazil, and we've made table sugar from beets in my own kitchen as a sort of science experiment with my kids because sugar beets are a major crop in our area. It is just boiling and evaporation, basic "states of matter" lessons really, with no need for added chemicals or complicated processing.

 

[MzDiz]

Who mentioned the government?

Really? Ok... People talk about wanting it banned, and how smoking was advertised and without health warnings, and how heavy lobbying influences decisions. Does someone have to actually say government? Is this like a word association game? Along with the fact that this topic has come up before at least a billion times and the government has been mentioned over and over on those threads, I didn't think I needed to post a spread sheet for people to be able to piece my idea together.

 

[C.Ann]

Believe everything the government tells you. They have your best interests in mind. They are not at all influenced by mega agribusiness. They have never lied to you.

Who mentioned the government?

Really? Ok... People talk about wanting it banned, and how smoking was advertised and without health warnings, and how heavy lobbying influences decisions. Does someone have to actually say government? Is this like a word association game? Along with the fact that this topic has come up before at least a billion times and the government has been mentioned over and over on those threads, I didn't think I needed to post a spread sheet for people to be able to piece my idea together.

I'll eat whatever I want - and whatever I find appealing - with or without HFCS..

 

[Mickey Fliers]

BTW...General Mills cereals do not contain HFCS.

 

[Planogirl]

Maybe they should offer both versions so that both sides can be happy. I have no issues with HCFS even though I limit all sweeteners including sugar.

What about that lime stuff that is used to clean the sugar? It's supposed to be like chalk?

 

[MzDiz]

I'll eat whatever I want - and whatever I find appealing - with or without HFCS..

Go for it, I'm not trying to stop you. I honestly couldn't possibly care less about what you eat, lady. Smoke too, do it up. My problem is with two issues - the first being that the general public is being misled into believing that HFCS and cane sugar are basically the same thing, the second being that sugar of any kind is in everything and nearly inescapable. HFCS is the second or third ingredient in canned tomato soup. In soup. Something that most people assume is healthy. It's sugar soup. That's beyond messed up. It's not "just calories" or carbs, all the point and exchange systems make people lazy and fat. People need to be educated on what they should eat and WHY they should eat it.
C.Ann, I know that you're thin and your doctor wants you to gain weight, but if you do that the wrong way you're going to end up being a 100 pound diabetic with heart disease and everyone will pretend they have no idea how that happened.