no more appetizers with table service?

[knieriem]

Sorry if this has been answered before but I'm on my cellphone inside m room t port orleans riverside and he signal strength is taking forevr for me to look through the boards for an answer.

I jus noticed on our brochure that you don't get an appetizer with the table service meal anymore. Is this true? If so when dd that strt? I remember in 2007 you got an app, entree and dessert.

 

[disneynp]

if u are on the dining plan an appetizer is NOT included anymore. I think its on some kids menu then it comes but i am sure not for an adult.

 

[2BusyPlanning]

The current plans also do not include gratuity, like it did in 2007.

 

[tinka-belle]

Sorry if this has been answered before but I'm on my cellphone inside m room t port orleans riverside and he signal strength is taking forevr for me to look through the boards for an answer.

I jus noticed on our brochure that you don't get an appetizer with the table service meal anymore. Is this true? If so when dd that strt? I remember in 2007 you got an app, entree and dessert.

Appetizers were deleted for adults on the Basic plan in 2008. Gratuity for table service meals is also not included now, except for some Signature Dining locations, room service, and shows that take 2 TS credits.

 

[TDC Nala]

No appetizers for adults with the basic plan since January 1, 2008. The included gratuity was also removed as of that date for all plans. Gratuity is included only with CRT, dinner shows and in-room dining.

The deluxe plan includes appetizers.

 

[mmay60046]

It's a shame they don't give an option for an appetizer OR dessert. I'm not much of a dessert person myself and it'd be nice if I could get an appetizer with my TS credit and my wife could get a dessert with hers and we could share these instead of both of us being allowed to only get a dessert each.

 

[TDC Nala]

It's a shame they don't give an option for an appetizer OR dessert. I'm not much of a dessert person myself and it'd be nice if I could get an appetizer with my TS credit and my wife could get a dessert with hers and we could share these instead of both of us being allowed to only get a dessert each.

Which is exactly why you don't have a choice on the basic DDP. If the guests share courses, they don't turn DDP tables as fast.

Of course you can buy an appetizer, or you can get the deluxe plan which includes appetizers, but then you are in effect paying extra for the time you keep the table.

 

[mmay60046]

I understand the reasoning behind that but it'd still be nice to have an option of getting appetizers or desserts even if my entire party has to get all appetizers or all desserts but not both because like I said I'm not much of a dessert person.


I'm sure Disney appreciates the "you could always spend more money" answer.

 

[TDC Nala]

Of course it'd be nice but they have a reason for doing it that way. As confirmation, note that the one very strictly enforced rule of the basic dining plan is that you cannot swap your dessert for an appetizer under ANY circumstances.

And there's no way they will ever require an entire party to choose either all appetizers or all desserts.

There are options if you prefer appetizers: Trade up to the deluxe dining plan, buy your own appetizers, or don't get a dining plan (then you can skip the dessert without thinking you're losing anything).

 

[havoc315]

Which is exactly why you don't have a choice on the basic DDP. If the guests share courses, they don't turn DDP tables as fast.

Of course you can buy an appetizer, or you can get the deluxe plan which includes appetizers, but then you are in effect paying extra for the time you keep the table.

While the table-turning explanation is certainly possible, I think it is more direct dollars and cents. I suspect that the dessert costs less to Disney than an appetizer costs in most cases. (Desserts are easily mass produced, and are generally cheap ingredients). And I suspect that when they changed the plans, there would have been more objections to removing the dessert instead of the appetizer.

To me, the biggest change was probably the removal of the tip inclusion though -- With that removal, the plan is no longer truly "pre-paid."

 

[mmay60046]

There are options if you prefer appetizers: Trade up to the deluxe dining plan, buy your own appetizers, or don't get a dining plan (then you can skip the dessert without thinking you're losing anything).

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Please forgive me for wishing upon a star.

 

[TDC Nala]

The star still isn't going to get you that appetizer you want.

 

[Jeffan1ca]

Unless I'm reading the brochure downloaded from the Disney site wrong, the 2011Dining Plan for table service shows appetizer, entree, dessert and non-alcholic beverage. Is the removal of appetizers a recent announcement?

 

[cluvsdisney]

Unless I'm reading the brochure downloaded from the Disney site wrong, the 2011Dining Plan for table service shows appetizer, entree, dessert and non-alcholic beverage. Is the removal of appetizers a recent announcement?

I think you are looking at the brochure for the deluxe dining plan. The regular dining plan does not include appetizers for adults, just children 3-9 years old.

 

[3Minnies1Mickey]

Unless I'm reading the brochure downloaded from the Disney site wrong, the 2011Dining Plan for table service shows appetizer, entree, dessert and non-alcholic beverage. Is the removal of appetizers a recent announcement?

Appetizer is just for kids.

 

[TDC Nala]

Unless I'm reading the brochure downloaded from the Disney site wrong, the 2011Dining Plan for table service shows appetizer, entree, dessert and non-alcholic beverage. Is the removal of appetizers a recent announcement?

Look again, we get this once in awhile because a lot of people miss the (guests age 3-9 only) next to the appetizer.

It has been nearly three years (January 2008) since WDW eliminated appetizers from the basic adult DDP and started the deluxe DDP.

 

[Jeffan1ca]

Thanks for pointing out the mention of children 3 -9 in parenthesis next to the appetizer. That is unfortunate as I'd much rather an appetizer then a dessert.

 

[NaturalLove]

In most instances, I'd prefer an appetizer over dessert too. But I can see from a business standpoint why they would offer only dessert. Appetizers are generally more expensive. Everyone would get the appetizer and of course their entree, which is costly. However, I imagine that a good percentage of people forgo the dessert as they may be too full. Also you have people that may forgo dessert due to guilt over all the empty calories. Just a thought.

 

[aubriee]

In most instances, I'd prefer an appetizer over dessert too. But I can see from a business standpoint why they would offer only dessert. Appetizers are generally more expensive. Everyone would get the appetizer and of course their entree, which is costly. However, I imagine that a good percentage of people forgo the dessert as they may be too full. Also you have people that may forgo dessert due to guilt over all the empty calories. Just a thought.

There is also the fact that Disney wanted to turn tables over faster. If they allowed a choice of appetizer or dessert, then a couple would have one order an appetizer and one order a dessert and they'd share. It would defeat Disney's purpose for eliminating the appetizer in the first place.

 

[mmay60046]

There are options if you prefer appetizers: Trade up to the deluxe dining plan, buy your own appetizers, or don't get a dining plan (then you can skip the dessert without thinking you're losing anything).

So let me ask another related question. We are going to have a party of 10. Do we all have to be on the same DP? What I'm asking is will they permit 2 or 3 members of our party be on the DXDP and the rest on the regular DP? We certainly won't need 10 appetizers at TS restaraunts and 20 snacks a day would be too many snacks. I was considering seeing if they'd let us buy DXDP for 3 of the adults and have the other 4 adults and the 3 kids on the regular DDP.