No 1 or 2 bd. available anywhere?

[Dean]

I would hope they did not turn rooms over to CRO for one of the most popular weeks of the year anticipating they would be empty. If they did, they should be able to take them back when they have a waitlist.

I can tell you they do for early Dec for some resorts 11 months out, whether it's anticipating breakage inventory, I can't say and I suspect no one on the outside can. I wouldn't make the assumption they wouldn't personally and I don't believe that early Dec is "one of the most popular weeks" in their eyes.

 

[Starr W.]

Not necessarily true. DVC has the right (it's in the POS) to anticipate breakage inventory and grab it as much as 11 months out. But most is likely cash equivalent exchanges such as DCL, DC, CC and the like.

I don't know of anyway to know this. We have the end of year audit, coming up soon, for II and later for RCI plus BVTC. It was just over 3% last time, I'm expecting about the same this time. I think it'll be higher by a minimal amount (4-4.5%) the first couple of years with RCI then settle back down to around the same 3-3.5% long term. It's possible that one could see the info if they go in and examine the books but that's about the only way to possibly get it if even then. My guess is about 5-6% of the points with the majority going to DCL. It could easily be as high as around 10% though. That's a lot of rooms, esp since they tend to group them during the lower seasons. My guess is that at certain times, as much as 20% of the total DVC rooms could be room reserved in this manner and as high as 10% at the same time be exchange rooms (BVTC & II/RCI). 30% not available to members is quite a lot. With RCI there has been a lot of BCV inventory plus the BWV BW view issue where BCV was the main replacement. Makes you wonder if DVC isn't sitting on a LOT of ROFR inventory there.

After seeing what's "out there in RCI" thanks to Brian, I've wondered about the level of ROFR inventory they have also.

 

[Brian Noble]

I'm guessing that any inventory that DVD owns after ROFR (or by any other mechanism) is in the Extra Vacations pile and managed by CRO, rather than the Exchange pile managed by MS---why would Disney give away these rooms to an exchanger when they are largely successful at renting them?

(There's some other evidence, too---exchanges call Member Services for ME, but Extra Vacations guests use CRO's web site.)

 

[LilGMom]

I would hope they did not turn rooms over to CRO for one of the most popular weeks of the year anticipating they would be empty. If they did, they should be able to take them back when they have a waitlist.

That is what I was/am wishing for. We'd like to be able to take some family members with us (more money in WDW's pockets for tickets, meals, souvies, etc.) but can't since there are absolutely no 2 bd. units available through points.

 

[DbleTheFun]

Just an FYI... I had a resie (2 in fact) for SSR 12/6 to 12/13.... but when our friends told us they had to cancel, I called this morning (6 months out) and asked if I could cancel the one room, and see if there was anything available at AKV during the same time period, I was pleasantly surprised. I got a 1 bedroom Kidani (STD View)! I had to adjust my dates a bit (Now going 12/8-12/15) but still got 7 nights in a row with no moving! Moral is... keep phoning! We are waitlisted for Savanna View in either a 2 bedroom, or sticking in our 1 bedroom now.

 

[LilGMom]

Just an FYI... I had a resie (2 in fact) for SSR 12/6 to 12/13.... but when our friends told us they had to cancel, I called this morning (6 months out) and asked if I could cancel the one room, and see if there was anything available at AKV during the same time period, I was pleasantly surprised. I got a 1 bedroom Kidani (STD View)! I had to adjust my dates a bit (Now going 12/8-12/15) but still got 7 nights in a row with no moving! Moral is... keep phoning! We are waitlisted for Savanna View in either a 2 bedroom, or sticking in our 1 bedroom now.

You took our room!! Just kidding. Good for you and hopefully we'll get what we want. We've been calling each week and nothing so far.