News Round Up 2017

[TheMaxRebo]

It's better to just drop them in an alternate dimension somewhere so you can bring them back later. You don't really want to kill characters off completely and if you just kill off the bit characters, it loses some authenticity. They can't kill off Spidey, we know that. Sony isn't going to allow that. They won't kill off the main Guardians, too much rides on that franchise. Thor ends an entire plot line if he goes. Hulk can't actually be killed, though maybe Banner can. You aren't taking out Captain America permanently. Dr. Strange is still in play for sequels right now. There aren't enough women rolls to take out Black Widow. Iron Man is tough to lose, but you have to do something there because Downey Jr. is getting old. Hawkeye is my bet. Would anyone miss him? And he's been around since the beginning. You take out him, kick Captain America and Ironman to a different dimension so you can reboot them with new actors if needed, Hulk already went on a dimensional journey, I don't see that happening again.

But kill them off permanently? It's just hard to do.

you could kill Tony Stark and then down the road bring back Ironman with someone else in the suit

 

[rteetz]

you could kill Tony Stark and then down the road bring back Ironman with someone else in the suit

 

[Phicinfan]

you could kill Tony Stark and then down the road bring back Ironman with someone else in the suit

Actually, there have been story lines with others as Iron man, it is where War Machine originally came from, add to that Capt. America was killed in one story line as well, and Bucky took over, and I bet that may happen here as well

 

[Roxyfire]

you could kill Tony Stark and then down the road bring back Ironman with someone else in the suit

I could see that easy. Or retcon him a "long, lost child" to get into the suit. We all know Tony had to have a few wild nights in the past

 

[rteetz]

News

Chef Theo Schoenegger named as Executive Chef of new Italian concepts Maria & Enzo's Ristorante and Enzo's Hideaway Tunnel Bar

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

I think we'll lose a Guardian, either Drax or Nebula.

Vision has to go since he has a stone embedded in his forehead.

I was almost wondering if they are ballsy enough to kill off Loki, since he has an infinity stone.

I think Iron Man will go, Dr. Strange is almost the same character and he is new. I think they need a big hit at the end of the first movie to make us all scared for the next one.

I'm honestly not sure about Cap, he actor keeps talking about wanting to be finished with Cap and then the next day he wants to do more.

They already set Hawkeye up for death in the last one and did a fake out so I doubt they'll do that again.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We saw Justice League last night. We enjoyed it with the exception of:

Spoiler

Dear lord the CGI over Henry Cavill's mouth was just horrendous. We found out why--due to reshoots that conflicted with his scheduling on another movie where he was required to have a real mustache and he was prohibited from shaving it--but it was very distracting to the overall movie. ETA: I should mention I had no idea about the CGI/Mustache issue prior to the movie-I only looked it up after the movie had ended

Anyways DC isn't bad IMO but it doesn't have the same oomph as Marvel. Marvel lucked out though IMO in that they built the foundation basically with Iron Man and it was a newer thing to have at that time. DC..IMO made the mistake from the beginning trying to chase after Marvel's success instead of just focusing on their movies for what they were.

Anyways not trying to debate Marvel and DC but to me DC doesn't make horrible films, like the rep they get, they just make films that have big brother to compete with and they just haven't been able to (with the exception of how well received Wonder Woman was).

On another note I should be seeing Coco on the 9th so I'll let you all know how I feel about that one

 

[Disneymom1126]

It's better to just drop them in an alternate dimension somewhere so you can bring them back later. You don't really want to kill characters off completely and if you just kill off the bit characters, it loses some authenticity. They can't kill off Spidey, we know that. Sony isn't going to allow that. They won't kill off the main Guardians, too much rides on that franchise. Thor ends an entire plot line if he goes. Hulk can't actually be killed, though maybe Banner can. You aren't taking out Captain America permanently. Dr. Strange is still in play for sequels right now. There aren't enough women rolls to take out Black Widow. Iron Man is tough to lose, but you have to do something there because Downey Jr. is getting old. Hawkeye is my bet. Would anyone miss him? And he's been around since the beginning. You take out him, kick Captain America and Ironman to a different dimension so you can reboot them with new actors if needed, Hulk already went on a dimensional journey, I don't see that happening again.

But kill them off permanently? It's just hard to do.

This was my guess...him and Captain America reform their alliance and Stark hands over the reigns to him as he dies.

Edited to add: I see there has been a thread started for this convo...so I'll take it over there before I get myself in trouble (again).

 

[rteetz]

News

Annual Passholders can get a special holiday Passholder magnet at DHS

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/passholder-program/specials/?CMP=SOC-FBPAGE20171129160000

 

[rteetz]

Rumor

Lets just say WDWNT is a little late to the game on this one....

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/11/rumor...l-stand-parks-entrance-front-spaceship-earth/

 

[STLstone]

Rumor

Lets just say WDWNT is a little late to the game on this one....

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/11/rumor...l-stand-parks-entrance-front-spaceship-earth/

For the crowd that was concerned about how the Guardians ride would affect the view of Spaceship Earth: Hold onto your hats before you click on that link...

 

[jknezek]

you could kill Tony Stark and then down the road bring back Ironman with someone else in the suit

May have to. Is the suit Ironman or is Tony Stark Ironman? There are ways to handle it. Obviously we have some cast turnover coming. RDJ is a big one. Chris Evans, as has been mentioned, runs hot or cold on Captain America. I'd assume that depends on how confident he feels in whether he is being type cast or will have other roles open in the end. I go back and forth with Ruffalo as Banner. My least favorite part of Ragnorak was how he was portrayed. But he can hold that role if he wants since Hulk is obviously CGI.

This is an opportunity to clean house, but... permanent character death is difficult. How many storylines over the last 70 years of comics have disputed whether it is the man or the suit that makes the superhero? I guess we'll just wait and see. The super serum that created Captain America was always superior to the knockoff that created the Winter Soldier, so I really don't like that trade. Plus part of Captain America is his ethics. His All-American underdog story. Bucky just isn't that. Ironman... Tony Stark is just pivotal. Howard Stark helped found Shield, and Tony is such a genius. Not just for the progressive Ironman suits, but for quinjets and all the other toys SI comes up with. He is a driving force of the whole future technology concept. I don't know how you replace that with simply a guy in a suit. You lose the brilliance and the connection. I guess if you can bring in Reed Richards you get some back, but he just isn't the same. His research is for himself and science, SI is about the future of consumer and military technology.

 

[rteetz]

For the crowd that was concerned about how the Guardians ride would affect the view of Spaceship Earth: Hold onto your hats before you click on that link...

According to several sources there are roughly 4 hotel plans for Epcot. What and if any happen remains to be the question.

 

[jknezek]

Rumor

Lets just say WDWNT is a little late to the game on this one....

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/11/rumor...l-stand-parks-entrance-front-spaceship-earth/

Bleh. Though if you connect it to the monorail that does improve the prospects for the future of the monorail in my opinion. It would also strengthen the Illuminations or replacement fireworks show, because those rooms facing the park are going to be "fireworks view" and then some expensive. But yeah, hasn't this been kicked around the block for quite a while?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Rumor

Lets just say WDWNT is a little late to the game on this one....

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/11/rumor...l-stand-parks-entrance-front-spaceship-earth/

though I do have to say that I hadn't seen it before as being right at the entrance to the park, only to the side a bit. That would kinda suck to not see Spaceship Earth from the parking lot/as you walk up to the park

 

[Moliphino]

Actually, there have been story lines with others as Iron man, it is where War Machine originally came from, add to that Capt. America was killed in one story line as well, and Bucky took over, and I bet that may happen here as well

I was convinced that Cap was going to die at the end of Civil War and Bucky would take over. I would so love to see Bucky Cap, though I also love Chris Evans as Cap.

 

[Brocktoon]

I was convinced that Cap was going to die at the end of Civil War and Bucky would take over. I would so love to see Bucky Cap, though I also love Chris Evans as Cap.

I think by the end of Infinity War we'll get Falcon-Cap ... doesn't mean Steve Rogers will die, but with the black outfit teased Rogers may take on a alias similar to 'Nomad' or 'The Captain' from the comics

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

We saw Justice League last night. We enjoyed it with the exception of:

Spoiler

Dear lord the CGI over Henry Cavill's mouth was just horrendous. We found out why--due to reshoots that conflicted with his scheduling on another movie where he was required to have a real mustache and he was prohibited from shaving it--but it was very distracting to the overall movie. ETA: I should mention I had no idea about the CGI/Mustache issue prior to the movie-I only looked it up after the movie had ended

Anyways DC isn't bad IMO but it doesn't have the same oomph as Marvel. Marvel lucked out though IMO in that they built the foundation basically with Iron Man and it was a newer thing to have at that time. DC..IMO made the mistake from the beginning trying to chase after Marvel's success instead of just focusing on their movies for what they were.

Anyways not trying to debate Marvel and DC but to me DC doesn't make horrible films, like the rep they get, they just make films that have big brother to compete with and they just haven't been able to (with the exception of how well received Wonder Woman was).

On another note I should be seeing Coco on the 9th so I'll let you all know how I feel about that one

Really the problem with DC is Superman. Once Superman shows up, game over. You've either gotta use kryptonite, which to me is tired and old, or you need to get him out of the picture.

Because seriously, either than kryptonite Superman is so overpowered he shouldn't have issues with anything.

How do you even write stories around that?

I think it is a major problem for DC.

 

[sachilles]

According to several sources there are roughly 4 hotel plans for Epcot. What and if any happen remains to be the question.

What I'm surprised with is the skyliner project. It makes a complete sense to have a stop at the IG, but seems like a waste to not have it continue over to near the monorail station. Seems even move of waste if there are something beyond blue sky rumors of lodging happening on the Spaceship earth side of that park.
It really seems like that side of the park is prime real estate to develop a new cluster of resorts.

If these resort rumor prove to come to fruition in any sort of form, it seems like a no brainer to have some sort of connection to the international gateway resorts, even if only an external walking path along the spine. I suppose none of this prevents them from a stand along gondola line from IG to the front of the park. I suppose an extension could also happen, though less likely.

I think they could make worse choices for a resort than the front of Epcot. I could see a resort similar to the proposed one for DLR/DCA working for near the entrance to Epcot, which would allow for a focal point on the SSE. I also think that if you ever want to expand epcot, the north is the way to go towards the current parking lots. That could leave you space ship earth as your central park icon, as well as hub. Of course that is armchair engineering and about as likely to happen as them turning SSE into the death star full time.

 

[rteetz]

What I'm surprised with is the skyliner project. It makes a complete sense to have a stop at the IG, but seems like a waste to not have it continue over to near the monorail station. Seems even move of waste if there are something beyond blue sky rumors of lodging happening on the Spaceship earth side of that park.
It really seems like that side of the park is prime real estate to develop a new cluster of resorts.

If these resort rumor prove to come to fruition in any sort of form, it seems like a no brainer to have some sort of connection to the international gateway resorts, even if only an external walking path along the spine. I suppose none of this prevents them from a stand along gondola line from IG to the front of the park. I suppose an extension could also happen, though less likely.

I think they could make worse choices for a resort than the front of Epcot. I could see a resort similar to the proposed one for DLR/DCA working for near the entrance to Epcot, which would allow for a focal point on the SSE. I also think that if you ever want to expand epcot, the north is the way to go towards the current parking lots. That could leave you space ship earth as your central park icon, as well as hub. Of course that is armchair engineering and about as likely to happen as them turning SSE into the death star full time.

This resort would have the monorail though.