News Round Up 2017

[lockedoutlogic]

You beat me to it ... I know plenty of people (including myself) that have worked for Fortune 100 companies and the average yearly increase has been ~ 2 - 2.5 % ... and that's even if there was an increase as yearly salary freezes have become the norm for many places. Note that this may not pertain as much to private companies, but for public companies controlling wages is an easy way to hit the yearly numbers and keep the shareholders happy

You're speaking of the real world and what it's like for Disney's backbone clientele...

And my main factor in why I rant about the price increases...there's a ceiling, for sure.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

It "sounds" like a lot but if they earn "on average $2 more an hour than minimum wage in FL" then that means they earn around $10 to maybe $11 at most and the others earn $13 on average. So the lowest end gets a whopping 25 cents. The others get 32 more cents. Yes I know, that adds up across an organization but still, these are real people. I wonder how much just one of Bob's bonuses would help people.

That's nothing...and in the end every union negotiating with disney ends up In token wages. Cause it's Florida and unions are illegal - more or less.

The problem - why they have overextended their labor pool - at wdw is they have to have so many full timers...which means families, rent, tuition and car insurance payments.

The reason why the $15 an hour movement has spread is because the numbers don't lie: everyone needs it.

And it doesn't "kill jobs"...it actually increases them due to more populace that can consume products.

There's a reason why DOLLAR GENERAL is the only place that is booming.

 

[Capang]

I don't know how many would kill for an extra 20 cents an hour......

I think for some they are comparing apples and oranges here.

I don't get the logic in not getting a raise when you are at a certain level and equating that with why someone who makes $10 an hour should be happy with a quarter an hour......

I just want them to at least get $.30 an hour more.

One more and I will get back on topic. Just because one has a higher skilled job doesn't necessarily equate to higher pay. Yes cost of living has risen but across the board salaries for all types of jobs have not, with the exception of the few at the very top of major corporations. I know a few folks that worked at the local NASA that were making about what the Disney employees were making. And they were rocket scientists.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I don't know how many would kill for an extra 20 cents an hour......

I think for some they are comparing apples and oranges here.

I don't get the logic in not getting a raise when you are at a certain level and equating that with why someone who makes $10 an hour should be happy with a quarter an hour......

I just want them to at least get $.30 an hour more.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't get more or that they should be happy with not getting more ... my point was more what Disney would argue against the point of what they are proposing not matching a cost of living increase (that the fact they are offering anything is more than a lot of other companies)

I definitely think CMs should get more - particularly good ones who have been there a while and demonstrated they truly add to the "Disney magic" received by the guest

I don't know what the right wage is - maybe it is $15/hour maybe it is more ... I do get though the demands for the minimum to go right from $10 - $15 (so a 50% increase) not being jumped at by Disney.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

One more and I will get back on topic. Just because one has a higher skilled job doesn't necessarily equate to higher pay. Yes cost of living has risen but across the board salaries for all types of jobs have not, with the exception of the few at the very top of major corporations. I know a few folks that worked at the local NASA that were making about what the Disney employees were making. And they were rocket scientists.

Income disparity is the biggest - in many ways the only - problem in society. It drives all the other smoke and mirrors diversionary problems.

It will continue to be a bigger problem until the public insists on corrective action.

It honestly only takes common sense and a teaspoon of reasoning ability to figure this conclusion out...we're surrounded by it.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I'm not saying that they shouldn't get more or that they should be happy with not getting more ... my point was more what Disney would argue against the point of what they are proposing not matching a cost of living increase (that the fact they are offering anything is more than a lot of other companies)

I definitely think CMs should get more - particularly good ones who have been there a while and demonstrated they truly add to the "Disney magic" received by the guest

I don't know what the right wage is - maybe it is $15/hour maybe it is more ... I do get though the demands for the minimum to go right from $10 - $15 (so a 50% increase) not being jumped at by Disney.

You have a lot of truth in there...and unnecessary questions.

Just study the economics of the housing bubble rise, bust, and "recovery"...about 10 years...all the devils details are in there..

 

[umichigan10]

Income disparity is the biggest - in many ways the only - problem in society. It drives all the other smoke and mirrors diversionary problems.

It will continue to be a bigger problem until the public insists on corrective action.

It honestly only takes common sense and a teaspoon of reasoning ability to figure this conclusion out...we're surrounded by it.

Posts like these are why “A beer with LoL” DIS meet up needs to happen

 

[Roxyfire]

The reason why the $15 an hour movement has spread is because the numbers don't lie: everyone needs it.

And it doesn't "kill jobs"...it actually increases them due to more populace that can consume products.

There's a reason why DOLLAR GENERAL is the only place that is booming.

100% agree but I'm a believer in Keynesian Economics which ain't very en vogue lately.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

100% agree but I'm a believer in Keynesian Economics which ain't very en vogue lately.

They still teach Keynes at Princeton...as opposed to Chicago...

I'll go with the tigers

 

[jade1]

I definitely think CMs should get more - particularly good ones who have been there a while and demonstrated they truly add to the "Disney magic" received by the guest.

Agreed. Sadly everyone gets lumped the same for some reason.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Posts like these are why “A beer with LoL” DIS meet up needs to happen

Remember...you only see about 1/6 of the iceberg above water...the rest is deep

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Agreed. Sadly everyone gets lumped the same for some reason.

What is "because it helps disney make more money?"

 

[jade1]

What is "because it helps disney make more money?"

The good ones should be at $20 or more.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Remember...you only see about 1/6 of the iceberg above water...the rest is deep

Scary.

 

[amberpi]

Income disparity is the biggest - in many ways the only - problem in society. It drives all the other smoke and mirrors diversionary problems.

Its rarely discussed though.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The good ones should be at $20 or more.

They used to be...adjusted for inflation...

They used to have leads that were the veterans that really provided the backbone of the service...Eisner declared war on them, got the unions to accept caps for token returns...it killed. He built a huge complexed, needing 25,000 more employees...then made them miserable. Very "art of the deal"

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Its rarely discussed though.

...avoided like the plague because it makes the big wig donors clutch their pearls and soil their underwear at the same time...

 

[jade1]

They used to have leads that were the veterans that really provided the backbone of the service...Eisner declared war on them, got the unions to accept caps for token returns."

That's too bad. That would be ideal. The good ones getting paid the same kills it.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Income disparity is the biggest - in many ways the only - problem in society. It drives all the other smoke and mirrors diversionary problems.

Tort reform knocks rather loudly.......

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Tort reform knocks rather loudly.......

I agree...but that has nothing to do with funds hoarding and promoting slave labor overseas...