News Round Up 2017

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Rumor/Photo update

Disneyland AP price increase coming soon? All that and more in this photo update

http://micechat.com/151218-disneyland-photo-update-feb-6/

I was out at Disneyland 2 weeks ago, and all I heard from people with an AP say to me is that "it is getting to expensive for me to have an AP." If Disneyland raises prices again with the excuse of saying that they want to make the parks less crowded, they aren't going to be seen really as a locals park anymore. I would find it really surprising if they got rid of the monthly payment plan. I hear it on the podcast all the time that Disney is a business, and they will find any way to make money. When the monthly payment plan rolled out, it made it a lot easier for my family and many of my friends to get an AP. If they get rid of the monthly payment plan, many of my friends won't be able to afford it anymore, and that means Disney would end up losing money. I don't see how that could be a smart business decision. I know I'm only basing my opinion on my friends and family, but I heard the "Disney prices are way to expensive" all the time when I was out there just by having side conversations with people.

 

[MommaBerd]

If you buy an AP for DL on the payment plan, is it more expensive in the end? I took a quick peek out there and it doesn't seem so. To me, if someone is going to pay up front for an AP, then there *should* be a "discount" for that. Or said another way, the payment plan should cost a little more, maybe 2-3%, because Disney IS taking a risk in extending that courtesy.

Also, the article did say that the cost for AP renewals may go down. So existing AP holders might actually be happy with the changes.

 

[HeroOfWDW]

It will be a nice little area for the families to spend some time. DHS needs it. The problem here is that Disney knows that people will like it and that it will be a very popular land regardless of how good or dissapointing it is. There's quite a few hours worth of people waiting to get in a 2 minute long family coaster at MK. I think a scaled down version of the Slinky dog coaster will do just fine.

I think the land would do very well, if they had more. Having either the RC ride, or the parachute dropped added on to what is already announced would be perfect. I say that Disney gets rid of the Tea cup alien thing, and makes some sort of dark ride. I think it would be really cool if they made an attraction like Spiderman/Transformers, where you ride on Buster to go save a fellow toy. Just wishful thinking

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Even the shovels moving doesn't mean things won't change/happen/etc. Look at Rivers of Light. Built, and previewed, yet still not open.

You're motto should be Trust Only When it Opens, TOWO.

Well...I at least expect that once tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars start being spent - the stock holders will expect them to finish it at SOME point.

I have "faith".

Unlike Night Kingdom, the water bridge to Caribbean, and all the other nonsense that has gotten "greenlit" over the years...

 

[mikepizzo]

Well...I at least expect that once tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars start being spent - the stock holders will expect them to finish it at SOME point.

I have "faith".

Unlike Night Kingdom, the water bridge to Caribbean, and all the other nonsense that has gotten "greenlit" over the years...

I love thinking about the attractions that "never were".

Speaking of the "Tragic Kingdom"...

I was watching Martin's New Fantasyland Tribute video the other day. There was a villains ride planned for New Fantasyland that started as a version of "it's a small world..." then Maleficent showed up, wrecked the track, and sent you to the underworld. The ride vehicle started as a boat, but then would connect to an above the head track, so it was a hybrid ride.

It sounded really interesting, and under different management who knows...

Who was the last executive that really cared about the guest experience, and had the Walt-esque mindset of always going bigger and better?

Edit: I was wrong. The hybrid ride was for another proposed ride. The villains would just be a flume ride.

 

[skier_pete]

I think the point of TOTS is to say that it means SOMETHING is actually getting built. Exact details can't be assured, but I think at this point we can be pretty comfortable that we are getting a Toy Story Land and a Star Wars Land....whereas the many rumor things at Epcot (Guardians of the Galaxy at Ellen, New Country in WS, New Remy/B&tB ride in France) are only speculation until work gets under way. Things get officially announced and even then still don't come to pass. (Remember Pixie Hollow in NFL? Hyperion Bay?) But TOTS is usually a pretty good indication.

 

[HeroOfWDW]

I love thinking about the attractions that "never were".

Speaking of the "Tragic Kingdom"...

I was watching Martin's New Fantasyland Tribute video the other day. There was a villains ride planned for New Fantasyland that started as a version of "it's a small world..." then Maleficent showed up, wrecked the track, and sent you to the underworld. The ride vehicle started as a boat, but then would connect to an above the head track, so it was a hybrid ride.

It sounded really interesting, and under different management who knows...

Who was the last executive that really cared about the guest experience, and had the Walt-esque mindset of always going bigger and better?

This sounds really cool. Did something take it's place? Or was it just not going to happen?

 

[mikepizzo]

This sounds really cool. Did something take it's place? Or was it just not going to happen?

I was actually incorrect. The hybrid style ride was a different proposed ride. The villains ride would just be a flume style ride.

The villains ride would take the place of the submarine ride. It was just never built in favor of New Fantasyland.

You can watch the whole video here:

New Fantasyland WDW – Martins Ultimate Tribute – Part One of Two

 

[skier_pete]

This sounds really cool. Did something take it's place? Or was it just not going to happen?

This stuff never went beyond Blue Sky. There's dozens of rides out there that they come up with concepts for that never happened. This is just another example.

The only way I would use it to criticize Disney is to say the Imagineering certainly has the ability to come up with unique ideas, but management isn't willing to pay for them.

 

[zaccaglin]

Does this new system mean there won't be monorail drivers anymore?

a pilot will still always be present, the new system is just an auto pilot (cruise control) type of system. A pilot will still need to be in place to preform all other functions of the train, as well as to drive it themselves for switching procedures, safety checks, and other times when needed.

 

[rteetz]

I was actually incorrect. The hybrid style ride was a different proposed ride. The villains ride would just be a flume style ride.

The villains ride would take the place of the submarine ride. It was just never built in favor of New Fantasyland.

You can watch the whole video here:

New Fantasyland WDW – Martins Ultimate Tribute – Part One of Two

Martin does some incredible videos.

 

[rteetz]

News

New Beauty and the Beast rose cake at Amorette's Patisserie

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...d-rose-cake-inspired-by-beauty-and-the-beast/

 

[Tigger's ally]

I think the point of TOTS is to say that it means SOMETHING is actually getting built. Exact details can't be assured, but I think at this point we can be pretty comfortable that we are getting a Toy Story Land and a Star Wars Land....whereas the many rumor things at Epcot (Guardians of the Galaxy at Ellen, New Country in WS, New Remy/B&tB ride in France) are only speculation until work gets under way. Things get officially announced and even then still don't come to pass. (Remember Pixie Hollow in NFL? Hyperion Bay?) But TOTS is usually a pretty good indication.

Yeah, but it is my belief that if someone truly believes in the theory of TOTS, then they would visit this thread only for News, as Rumors would not apply. The thing is, rumors are so much more interesting.

 

[Tigger's ally]

News

New Beauty and the Beast rose cake at Amorette's Patisserie

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...d-rose-cake-inspired-by-beauty-and-the-beast/

Cool cake. But, I found that story on the right hand side about Dliving in Springs just as interesting. That is some neat stuff! I hope my wife never sees it!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think the point of TOTS is to say that it means SOMETHING is actually getting built. Exact details can't be assured, but I think at this point we can be pretty comfortable that we are getting a Toy Story Land and a Star Wars Land....whereas the many rumor things at Epcot (Guardians of the Galaxy at Ellen, New Country in WS, New Remy/B&tB ride in France) are only speculation until work gets under way. Things get officially announced and even then still don't come to pass. (Remember Pixie Hollow in NFL? Hyperion Bay?) But TOTS is usually a pretty good indication.

Perhaps TOTS was a manifestation of somebody who is shellshocked that long...ridiculous gaps...between park investments have taken place since 1999...

Not in the disney tradition of keeping the parks fresh. That would be more acceptable if not for maintenance slips, declining park experience quality, mothballing, closures without replacement, and decay in parks/lands?

Just a thought

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Yeah, but it is my belief that if someone truly believes in the theory of TOTS, then they would visit this thread only for News, as Rumors would not apply. The thing is, rumors are so much more interesting.

I like to pass time just like the next cat...

I just think we need to raise our level of discourse when it comes to "rumors"...some don't pass the sniff test from the go...

...then they go off the tracks, over the cliff, down the ravine, through a hospital, into a daycare, and explode in a fireball next to a halfway house...

 

[rteetz]

I like to pass time just like the next cat...

I just think we need to raise our level of discourse when it comes to "rumors"...some don't pass the sniff test from the go...

...then they go off the tracks, over the cliff, down the ravine, through a hospital, into a daycare, and explode in a fireball next to a halfway house...

I don't usually try to post the "crazy" rumors. I try to post the more credible stuff that makes sense.

We've been down this road so many times and wish it would just end.

 

[Tigger's ally]

I like to pass time just like the next cat...

I just think we need to raise our level of discourse when it comes to "rumors"...some don't pass the sniff test from the go...

...then they go off the tracks, over the cliff, down the ravine, through a hospital, into a daycare, and explode in a fireball next to a halfway house...

Well, some that haven't passed the smell test to me have actually happened in the last few years. Maybe my nose is broke? Dayam eye patch!

 

[Tigger's ally]

I don't usually try to post the "crazy" rumors. I try to post the more credible stuff that makes sense.

We've been down this road so many times and wish it would just end.

It's kind of like the track of a roller coaster, it never ends...it just keeps replacing the people...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I don't usually try to post the "crazy" rumors. I try to post the more credible stuff that makes sense.

We've been down this road so many times and wish it would just end.

No criticism of you at all...to be clear.

It's more the "I think they'll do it". Comments we always get without an argument to back it up...