News Round Up 2017

[skier_pete]

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MNSSHP guide map

http://www.wdwmagic.com/events/mick...2017-mickeys-not-so-scary-halloween-party.htm

I'm curious as to the crowds tonight. It's the first one but it's SOOO friggin' early. Do crowd reports for these things ever get posted anywhere?

After 7 years of railing against these events, there's an outside chance if they do one the same time next year we might attend. We might be bringing a friend with DD, and if they really wanted to go to the party I would pass it through my thought processes. I hate the idea of even doing it, but chalk it up to "do it for the kids". And then only if the crowds are low and I can buy tickets just a couple days before (Not attending in torrential rains.), plus AP/DVC price for these early ones are $69 so not as bad.

Ugh, just thinking of it makes me shiver, we squeezed hours in MK last fall and were still in the park at 7:30 PM on a party night -on our way out people were already lined up for the parade, and we saw Jack and Sally coming out and the line HAD to be 300 people long to see them. That was October, but on a Tuesday. Maybe not -

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'm curious as to the crowds tonight. It's the first one but it's SOOO friggin' early. Do crowd reports for these things ever get posted anywhere?

After 7 years of railing against these events, there's an outside chance if they do one the same time next year we might attend. We might be bringing a friend with DD, and if they really wanted to go to the party I would pass it through my thought processes. I hate the idea of even doing it, but chalk it up to "do it for the kids". And then only if the crowds are low and I can buy tickets just a couple days before (Not attending in torrential rains.), plus AP/DVC price for these early ones are $69 so not as bad.

Ugh, just thinking of it makes me shiver, we squeezed hours in MK last fall and were still in the park at 7:30 PM on a party night -on our way out people were already lined up for the parade, and we saw Jack and Sally coming out and the line HAD to be 300 people long to see them. That was October, but on a Tuesday. Maybe not -

I think tonight might do ok - it is the first one and people want to be "first" - plus a lot of areas are still off from school (my area still has 2 weeks left of vacation) so people are down for that.

 

[wnwardii]

Ugh, just thinking of it makes me shiver, we squeezed hours in MK last fall and were still in the park at 7:30 PM on a party night -on our way out people were already lined up for the parade, and we saw Jack and Sally coming out and the line HAD to be 300 people long to see them. That was October, but on a Tuesday. Maybe not -

Last October I did the MNSSHP for the first time. It was the later part of October and on a Friday. For me, going to the event was one of the highlights of my trip last year. Now, with that being said, I did not line up in the huge lines just to do the M&Gs. I avoided those because I didn't want to spend my time in line. As for the parade, yes, the early parade will almost always be somewhat crazy. If I recall correctly, I just went around and rode rides and did a lot of the Photo Pass spots (got some really cool pictures). Then later I watched Hallowishes, the stage show with the Sanderson Sisters and then the later Boo To You Parade. The crowds for the 2nd parade were no where near the level of the first one.

It was a blast having almost no wait times on the rides and walking around the Magic Kingdom with less crowds. Once you got to the hub and Main Street, yes the crowds where there. But like I said if you hold out to the later shows, the crowds do thin out. If your focus is on the character M&G, then that changes the whole dynamics and you will have to deal with long lines.

I loved MNSSHP so much that I am going back in October and doing the party 2 times. To me this is well worth it. I did the MVMCP last December and it was fine. But the MNSSHP, to me, was far superior.

 

[circus4u]

Bill Nye to Disney: You owe me $9 million for 'Science Guy'
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/25/media/bill-nye-the-science-guy-disney-lawsuit/index.html

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

News

New paint for Space Mountain

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...2017-photo---new-paint-for-space-mountain.htm

We kept watching the progress from out BLT balcony! It was cool to see them out there working... especially while they still had the scaffolding up around the spire.

ETA:

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Bill Nye to Disney: You owe me $9 million for 'Science Guy'
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/25/media/bill-nye-the-science-guy-disney-lawsuit/index.html

"Two decades after production wrapped up, Nye has accused Disney of fraud and breach of contract..." OK...

He hasn't seemed like he's had it all together for a number of years now...

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

"Two decades after production wrapped up, Nye has accused Disney of fraud and breach of contract..." OK...

He hasn't seemed like he's had it all together for a number of years now...

To be fair though it's not like he out of the blue 20 years later was like .

It says "The lawsuit claims that Nye, who was owed 16.5% of the show's profits, became suspicious after Disney-owned Buena Vista demanded he repay a large portion of his 2007 "Science Guy" earnings, citing an "accounting error." Nye doubted the company's bookkeeping. But his efforts to engage the firm in negotiations to resolve the matter were "futile," according to the lawsuit. Nye claims that Buena Vista stopped making royalty payments in 2008 because of the dispute. The suit says that Nye eventually hired an auditor to review the company's records, but the inquiry was delayed for years and the defendants allegedly did not provide all the requested documentation. The "defendants failed to engage in the process in good faith," says the suit, which accuses the companies of engaging in "an ongoing, deliberate conspiracy to deceive Mr. Nye." According to the complaint, the limited documentation provided to auditors showed revenues were skewed and royalties went unreported."

So it sorta sounds like Buena Vista started the ball rolling back in 2007.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

I'm curious as to the crowds tonight. It's the first one but it's SOOO friggin' early. Do crowd reports for these things ever get posted anywhere?

After 7 years of railing against these events, there's an outside chance if they do one the same time next year we might attend. We might be bringing a friend with DD, and if they really wanted to go to the party I would pass it through my thought processes. I hate the idea of even doing it, but chalk it up to "do it for the kids". And then only if the crowds are low and I can buy tickets just a couple days before (Not attending in torrential rains.), plus AP/DVC price for these early ones are $69 so not as bad.

Ugh, just thinking of it makes me shiver, we squeezed hours in MK last fall and were still in the park at 7:30 PM on a party night -on our way out people were already lined up for the parade, and we saw Jack and Sally coming out and the line HAD to be 300 people long to see them. That was October, but on a Tuesday. Maybe not -

Tonight's party will most likely sell out, I'd be surprised if it didn't These past few years the first one always has. This is probably due mostly to all the bloggers needing to go. We went to the first one last year and it was a mess and sold out.

If you google MNSSHP + the year sell outs you can find the dates of the parties that have sold out in the past.

MNSSHP is my favorite event at Disney. I was just saying on the MNSSHP thread that if I could only ever do one day at Disney a year for the rest of my life I would pick a MNSSHP day.

Jack and Sally are the most popular meet and greet, so yes the line was most likely insane for them. People do line up for the first parade early but the second one is easier to see with a shorter wait.

Plenty of the parties don't end up selling out, but there is always the chance that you will buy tickets a few days before and it will end up selling out. There is just no good predictor for that. Though your best shot would most likely be one of the next couple parties after opening day.

Honestly though, it sounds like you really don't want to do a party. No offense, but with that mindset you probably would have a bad time because you sound like you are set up for it to be bad. So in that case, I would recommend not going. Sorry if that sounded harsh, that was not my intention.

 

[rteetz]

Looks like we are getting Toy Story Land news on August 30th. The DIS received a media package from Disney stating there would be an announcement on that day.

 

[FoxC63]

I'm curious as to the crowds tonight. It's the first one but it's SOOO friggin' early. Do crowd reports for these things ever get posted anywhere?

Yep, over [URL="https://www.disboards.com/threads/official-2017-mickeys-not-so-scary-halloween-party-boo-to-you.3580223/"]here[/URL]

 

[skier_pete]

Tonight's party will most likely sell out, I'd be surprised if it didn't These past few years the first one always has. This is probably due mostly to all the bloggers needing to go. We went to the first one last year and it was a mess and sold out.

OK Not going then.

I've often stated I know I am in the (far) minority on hating the parties. We went in mid-October 2010 on a Thursday night, and it was by far the biggest crowds we had our entire trip and we felt like we got nothing done. Even trick or treat lines were 50 people deep. All we did were 3 m&G, 2 rides, the parade and fireworks. To each his own certainly, but happy to stay away. It's no small co-incidence that our November trip co-incides with the week between the Halloween and the Christmas parties.

 

[MommaBerd]

Looks like we are getting Toy Story Land news on August 30th. The DIS received a media package from Disney stating there would be an announcement on that day.

Any clue as to what it may be? Probably just a progress report/opening date kind of thing?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

To be fair though it's not like he out of the blue 20 years later was like .

It says "The lawsuit claims that Nye, who was owed 16.5% of the show's profits, became suspicious after Disney-owned Buena Vista demanded he repay a large portion of his 2007 "Science Guy" earnings, citing an "accounting error." Nye doubted the company's bookkeeping. But his efforts to engage the firm in negotiations to resolve the matter were "futile," according to the lawsuit. Nye claims that Buena Vista stopped making royalty payments in 2008 because of the dispute. The suit says that Nye eventually hired an auditor to review the company's records, but the inquiry was delayed for years and the defendants allegedly did not provide all the requested documentation. The "defendants failed to engage in the process in good faith," says the suit, which accuses the companies of engaging in "an ongoing, deliberate conspiracy to deceive Mr. Nye." According to the complaint, the limited documentation provided to auditors showed revenues were skewed and royalties went unreported."

So it sorta sounds like Buena Vista started the ball rolling back in 2007.

They stopped payments in 2008. Dragged their feet -- supposedly. Then he files suit 9 years later? Odd.

 

[beer dave]

The tech seems different for meet and greets versus stage shows. If you watch some stage shows with any of the talking characters, you can see their fingers going a mile a minute. Not to hard to infer what's going on there, of course.

But when you do a meet and greet with a talking character (like the video posted above), their hands don't appear to be controlling anything. Pre-programmed? But if so, why not also pre-program the heads for the stage shows.

The former magician in me loves trying to figure the magic out, solely to further my appreciation for magic/illusion/tech/whatever you want to call it.

I read somewhere that it takes 9 people to operate the talking mickey meet and greet....... what I heard....

 

[danikoski]

They stopped payments in 2008. Dragged their feet -- supposedly. Then he files suit 9 years later? Odd.

It sounds like he was trying to work with Buena Vista and they were refusing. He may have just decided the lawsuit was a last resort. They paid him $500,000 for his royalties and then said oops, we need $400,000 back. That kind of thing would raise my eyebrows too as to what Buena Vista's accounting practices were.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

It sounds like he was trying to work with Buena Vista and they were refusing. He may have just decided the lawsuit was a last resort. They paid him $500,000 for his royalties and then said oops, we need $400,000 back. That kind of thing would raise my eyebrows too as to what Buena Vista's accounting practices were.

I understand all of that. "Trying to work with them"... ok... how long do you give that?? Doesn't 9yrs sound a tad long? I still find waiting 9 yrs to file a suit very odd.

 

[PaintsWithAllTheColors]

I understand all of that. "Trying to work with them"... ok... how long do you give that?? Doesn't 9yrs sound a tad long? I still find waiting 9 yrs to file a suit very odd.

Speaking as a forensic accountant and someone who works on fraud investigations for a living, I'm not as surprised by the timing. You would not believe how long these types of things can drag on. Taking into account the high profile parties involved and the claims/counter-claims, I think it's at least in the realm of possibility.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

They stopped payments in 2008. Dragged their feet -- supposedly. Then he files suit 9 years later? Odd.

Personally, no that doesn't really sound odd to me at all. There are so many lawsuits that play out like that where stuff happens a while ago and all that. Also despite being able to say "we're so sue happy" I think generally speaking people try to work things out before getting to the lawsuit part--it's not like that is a piece of cake suing someone as far as I know.

Sounds like he was attempting to work with them, requesting documentation (which wasn't readily given to him) and you know..it just went from there. I don't blame him for wanting to double check that the amount he supposedly owes is you know actually correct then it sorta seems like Pandora's box was opened after Buena Vista brought to his attention an accounting error.

It's like if your employer years later said "hey by the way we actually overpaid you we're going to need $X back from you, K?" You'd probably want proof of that before handing over $ and if your employer wasn't easily giving you the documentation you requested and just spent years attempting to delay things all the while they have stopped paying you..yeah honestly I don't think it's odd at all.

 

[Lurkerin]

Speaking as a forensic accountant and someone who works on fraud investigations for a living, I'm not as surprised by the timing. You would not believe how long these types of things can drag on. Taking into account the high profile parties involved and the claims/counter-claims, I think it's at least in the realm of possibility.

Who else here pictured Ben Affleck and Anna Kendrick, in the conference room writing on the windows, to find the missing money?

 

[PaintsWithAllTheColors]

Who else here pictured Ben Affleck and Anna Kendrick, in the conference room writing on the windows, to find the missing money?

It's hilarious that you said that! It's about the 1% of that movie that actually resembles my day to day working life. haha My team took a Friday afternoon to go see that movie last year and we all came out wishing we were that cool