Newborn at a Cardinal Game??????

golfgal said:
I don't see why Disney would be another story. When we were at AK it was 95 degrees and humid, so the heat index had to have been over 100 degrees. There was a couple with a newborn baby that was just red from the heat. The baby was in a diaper and still had it's umbillical cord stump, so couldn't have been more then a week or two old. Babies at that age can't regulate their own body temp very well. It is just plain STUPID to take a newborn out in extreme weather no matter where it is!



:cheer2: I agree!
 
MayMom said:
I don't know - maybe after 2 months?? :confused3

Our pediatrician recommended that we not travel, and not visit super crowded places, till our baby was 3 months old. Her reasoning was that at 3 months babies 1. Have a better-functioning natural thermostat (prior to 3 months their little bodies can't regulate their temperature well at all, especially under extreme conditions like at a hot ballgame!) 2. Have their first rounds of vaccinations completed 3. Have a stronger immune system (our kids were both born during RSV season so this was especially important).

After 3 months we were told we could do just about anything we wanted (including Disney!) as long as the baby (and parents) seemed happy and comfortable.

As for not taking kids to things till they're old enough to appreciate them, that philosophy is pretty much out the window for us...we took our kids to Disney, ballgames, etc. as babies/toddlers and though they will never remember those trips, WE will! :) Of course we were always careful to keep the kids happy, safe, and not bothersome of other people during our outings.
 

I'm going to play devils advocate here...

Should life stop simply because you have a baby? Should you lock up the other children because you choose to add another to your family? Should you ignore everything even the youngest child (newborn) can take in simply because they can't "appreciate" it? What about people who live in those type of temperatures year round? And how do you know it isn't just a baby who cries period? If it is a nursing baby how is a sitter going to feed it?

Now don't get me wrong... I do believe that you need to take care of your baby's needs--keeping them the right temperature, properly hydrated, not drinking and driving are among the top of the list. I also highly believe that you need to be considerate of the people around you--bb tickets are expensive and even when children under 3 are free, others don't want a constantly crying baby ruining their good time.

I'm just thinking you can carry this way to far into many different areas by generalizing. And since I don't know the specifics, I wouldn't want to pass judgement personally. But then again, I wasn't a witness either.
 
THE BEST AGE FOR ME IS 5 OR 6 YRS.BUT THAT'S MY OPT :rolleyes: ION THATS WHEN THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN GET ON THE RIDES TOGETHER,YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STROLLERS,DIAPER BAGS,BOTTLES ,ETC.
I LOVE BABIES BUT NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE THEM TOO DISNEY :rotfl:
 
It's true, life shouldn't stop when you have a baby. You can't be expected to wait until your kids are 18 to do an adult activity. They need to suck it up and learn to go to adult places and events without whining. Another thing to note is that some kids have better demeanors and can handle something that is exciting to adults yet boring to most kids. I've seen kids in restaurants that just sit there and color, etc. while other kids are climbing the walls. Everyone is different. Even my kids are different. I have one that actually eats and one that climbs the walls. I dunno. Just my humble opinion.
 
I think everyone's getting off the topic a little here... The OP was talking about a NEWBORN being at a game during 105 degree weather, not children and not older babies. A NEWBORN! Sorry, but I just wanted to bring it back to the original thought...don't mean to offend anyone ;)
 
rt2dz said:
I'm going to play devils advocate here...

Should life stop simply because you have a baby? Should you lock up the other children because you choose to add another to your family? Should you ignore everything even the youngest child (newborn) can take in simply because they can't "appreciate" it? What about people who live in those type of temperatures year round? And how do you know it isn't just a baby who cries period? If it is a nursing baby how is a sitter going to feed it?

Now don't get me wrong... I do believe that you need to take care of your baby's needs--keeping them the right temperature, properly hydrated, not drinking and driving are among the top of the list. I also highly believe that you need to be considerate of the people around you--bb tickets are expensive and even when children under 3 are free, others don't want a constantly crying baby ruining their good time.

I'm just thinking you can carry this way to far into many different areas by generalizing. And since I don't know the specifics, I wouldn't want to pass judgement personally. But then again, I wasn't a witness either.

No, life doesn't stop when you have a baby, however, things might have to get postponed for a few months. It just isn't wise to take a newborn out in 100+ temps and you know, these people had known for quite a while that they were going to have a baby (the one's I saw at Disney) so why plan a trip so close to the birth of your child?
 
dtsaos said:
I think everyone's getting off the topic a little here... The OP was talking about a NEWBORN being at a game during 105 degree weather, not children and not older babies. A NEWBORN! Sorry, but I just wanted to bring it back to the original thought...don't mean to offend anyone ;)

Thanks dtsaos! I also want to remind everyone that St. Louis was under an extreme heat warning. People were dying from this type of heat. Newscasters were advising everyone to STAY home. My silly hubby wouldn't DO IT!!!! :rolleyes1
And I thought I'd add - the woman who had this baby got up once because it was crying so hard. When she tried to walk down through the crowd she almost fell. (You know how steep stadium seating is.) A woman had to grab ahold of her arm! She was off balance due to the baby and the beers, I believe. Or perhaps just off balance period. :confused3
 
I live in Fl... I know how hot it is... but Disney IS different than a ball game... parents bring their newborns b/c to leave them behind when the family goes on a trip makes it not a family trip... sometimes there is only the summer that a family can take off all together... so I have sympathy for them... and no, going somewhere cooler isnt always an option... you try telling your 5 yold why he cant see Mickey and break his heart)... it is easier to take a summer trip to Disney w/ a newborn b/c there are so many places that you can run into that are air conditioned and entertaining for the whole family.. you never know that the person you see pushing the infant in the stroller is just jumping from one building to another and constantly thinking of their newborn... we visit often and we now have a 6 week old and will be down there tomorrow night... I plan on only visiting epcot in the morning (not even going to venture to the countries b/c of the walking though... just the main pavillons) and going back to resort for the hottest part of the afternoon and then perhaps venture back out for an hour or two & come back before fireworks... the rest of the family will be jummping around park to park but at least our mornings and evenings are spent as a family and all are safe
Allyson
 
I wasn't exluding newborns from my post and only referring to older children and older babies. I could not be locked up in my house for a couple of months. Not only would that make me a bad mother (quite resentful of my child & a little looney in the head), but who would take my older children to school? On playdates? To their other activities? Go grocery shopping and run other errands? My DH travels, so he wouldn't be here to do it necessarily. Or are we supposed to go without income for a couple of months? It is these thoughts that led me to play devils advocate; read the bottom of my original post.

Along those same lines, how do you know it was a newborn? DS#2 was mistaken for a newborn at five months old because he was so tiny. And while most umbilical cord stumps fall off at 1-2 weeks, they can fall off as late as 8 weeks. Is two months still a newborn? They have had their first round of shots by that time... And for the record, both my boys lost their stumps at 6-7 weeks. I was very worried the first time, but my pedi assured me that it was quite normal. DS#2 didn't hold up his head up either until 4-4.5 months--again, while quite late in the normal range.

Down here, we have at least four months of 100 degree + weather, not counting humidity. My DH can never figure out why it is so hard for northerners to deal with this type weather; being a yankee myself, I do try to explain to him that it is a matter of being used to it and knowing how to deal with it. Someone from down here wouldn't think twice about going out in that weather while up north because it is different even with the same temp. and heat index.

I'm not here to argue. But the OP did ask "why", and I just thought I'd give some reasons as to "why". Doesn't mean I agree. It just means I do SEE another side, to either a newborn or that particular baby.
 
AyaneEin,
How is staying all day in a hotel room with a 6wk old a family vacation? :confused3 I would rather stay home .
 
I didnt say I was in the hotel all day long and I said for 'some' families... I would rather spent 3 hours in the morning w/ my family and go back for a nap and cool off.. fix them lunch (which I would be doing at home just the same) and watch them head back out while the baby & I get our rest... then like I said... head back out for a couple hours to be with them... sometimes a few hours at disney together means more than just sitting at home watching tv & feeding baby, while your kids are playing outside... I guess I value a few hours at disney when we are together than some... the money is worth it to me and the few hours that you think we are getting isnt enough 'family' time is enough for me to warrent going
Allyson
 
AyaneEin said:
I live in Fl... I know how hot it is... but Disney IS different than a ball game... parents bring their newborns b/c to leave them behind when the family goes on a trip makes it not a family trip... sometimes there is only the summer that a family can take off all together... so I have sympathy for them... and no, going somewhere cooler isnt always an option... you try telling your 5 yold why he cant see Mickey and break his heart)... it is easier to take a summer trip to Disney w/ a newborn b/c there are so many places that you can run into that are air conditioned and entertaining for the whole family.. you never know that the person you see pushing the infant in the stroller is just jumping from one building to another and constantly thinking of their newborn... we visit often and we now have a 6 week old and will be down there tomorrow night... I plan on only visiting epcot in the morning (not even going to venture to the countries b/c of the walking though... just the main pavillons) and going back to resort for the hottest part of the afternoon and then perhaps venture back out for an hour or two & come back before fireworks... the rest of the family will be jummping around park to park but at least our mornings and evenings are spent as a family and all are safe
Allyson


But, WHY would you plan a trip to Disney when you KNOW you are going to have a newborn in the summer, especially when chances are it will be 95+ degrees. Sorry, it is just STUPID!
 
you dont live here.. your not used to our heat and we are... and I never plan trips well in advance... we just wing it a weekend day here and there... remember I said 'some' and it isnt stupid... If I have the $ and I'm taking every percaution w/ my baby then my family gets a fun weekend w/ Mickey and I see nothing wrong with it... You just have a problem it seems w/ babies at Disney in the summer, but you need to live here to understand it... Just like I would think it would be odd to travel to Minnesota w/ a baby in the middle of winter... You live in a completely different climate than I do... Please dont call 'stupid' something just b/c you dont understand it or feel it isnt enough 'family' time for you... Those once in awhile weekend getaways are thebest for MY family
Allyson
 
Just a thought... my SIL and her family had been saving for a WDW vacation for several years. They finally made their reservations and her 2 DDs were extremely excited, well she very unexpectedly got pregnant. It had taken a lot of convincing to get her DH to agree to the trip in the first place and she was afraid that if they cancelled they might never reschedule and her DDs would be so disappointed. So they went off to WDW with a newborn. She became very familiar with all the baby care centers and took care of her little one while DH took the girls for awhile, and then they would meet up and continue on. There are a lot of airconditioned attractions in the MK, and as a nurse she knew to be very careful. They had a fabulous time and she and the kids have been back to WDW many times.
 
WDWFAN...I was just thinking the same thing. Not eveyonr plans a trip 9 months in advance. Some people have to plan and save for years to be able to go. If proper attention is paid I baby can be brought to Disney. That being said...my middle daughter was 3 and half months old when she first went and akthough she does not remember the vacation we sure do and she loved the charecters. However we did cancelle a trip for the summer my son was born. He would have only been 6 weeks when we were to go.

Now a new born at a baseball game in 104 heat, that is over the top carzy!even if I had planned trip for a very long time I think I would have spent the day in air!! I am more upset at the drining and driving they did with that baby!
 
My dh often says he doesn't understand our society sometimes...
You have to take tests to drive a car, be a hairdresser, and many other things you need licenses for, but anyone with "working parts" can have a baby :confused3
 
AyaneEin said:
you dont live here.. your not used to our heat and we are... and I never plan trips well in advance... we just wing it a weekend day here and there... remember I said 'some' and it isnt stupid... If I have the $ and I'm taking every percaution w/ my baby then my family gets a fun weekend w/ Mickey and I see nothing wrong with it... You just have a problem it seems w/ babies at Disney in the summer, but you need to live here to understand it... Just like I would think it would be odd to travel to Minnesota w/ a baby in the middle of winter... You live in a completely different climate than I do... Please dont call 'stupid' something just b/c you dont understand it or feel it isnt enough 'family' time for you... Those once in awhile weekend getaways are thebest for MY family
Allyson


Our summer climate isn't any different then it is in Orlando, we have high 90's with 80+ humidity too. It is stupid to put the life of a child in danger just to see Mickey or a baseball game. It just isn't safe to take a NEWBORN out in heat like that, plain and simple. Wait a month or two if you are that close to Disney that you can plan a last minute trip for the weekend.
 












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