New Pet PEEVE and EMH

[declansdad]

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NOTE: This is also why I do not give up my seat on buses for parents holding sleeping kids. They know the kids will fall asleep, so they should have left earlier. Before you think of me as unkind, I do ALWAYS give a seat to pregnant ladies, older persons, and handicapped.

This I can't believe. If you are physically capable of giving up your seat, have a heart. My son will fall asleep at the drop of a hat, yet you would punish me because I should have known he would fall asleep!

I hope that you are never in this situation.

 

[drakester]

Wow! I can't believe the nerve this thread has struck. I have 2 childern and the first time we took them to WDW they were 5 and 8. I have to agree with the OP. I just erased everything I typed. I figure enough people have responded. All I ask is parents PLEASE listen to your childern. You know your child better than any of us. If their tired and crying take them to the resort for a nap. If their ready to play go for it no matter what time it is. I have one of each. So my DH playswhile I stay with the one napping. It works for us.

 

[Luigi's Girl]

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NOTE: This is also why I do not give up my seat on buses for parents holding sleeping kids. They know the kids will fall asleep, so they should have left earlier. Before you think of me as unkind, I do ALWAYS give a seat to pregnant ladies, older persons, and handicapped.

I think this behavior is 100 times worse than what all those "crying kids or their bad parents" (btw not my feelings at all) might have ever done.

 

[tnmommy]

NOTE: This is also why I do not give up my seat on buses for parents holding sleeping kids. They know the kids will fall asleep, so they should have left earlier. Before you think of me as unkind, I do ALWAYS give a seat to pregnant ladies, older persons, and handicapped.

Not looking for an arguement, but {begin sarcasm} shouldn't pregnant ladies, elders, and handicapped people also know better?? Maybe they shouldn't be staying out late, either!! : {end sarcasm}

I agree that parents on vacation often times neglect to REALLY listen to their kids... I also know that there are times when my kids have been whiney and tired, and I was EMBARASSED, but you're not always at a point where you can just stop everything and leave...maybe my husband is riding a ride, or in the restroom, and we're waiting on him before we leave. Another point I need to make that sometimes a whiney child will simply go to sleep if pushed around in a stroller for a little longer (most often for my kids 1-2 minutes ).

I also know (really, I'm not a know it all, I just know a lot about my kids...) that my kids would fall asleep on the bus back from a park whether we leave at 8 pm or 12 am ...so it wouldn't always be my "fault" my kids are asleep on the way back to the hotel. I'm not asking you to give your seat up to me or anyone else in my situation, just pointing out that your rationalization is a little biased.

Honestly, I have seen screaming kids and thought "Thank goodness those kids aren't mine!!"...when my kids were behaving...then my kids start acting up, and I think..."WHY ME LORD?? "

I guess my whole point in this big ramble is that you can't judge a all parents by a couple you may see in a park with screaming kids at midnight.

......and remember, some kids are better on the bus asleep rather than awake...that way they can't pull your hair if they're behind you...(not that my precious angels would ever dream of doing anything like that... )

 

[Pedler]

... that my kids would fall asleep on the bus back from a park whether we leave at 8 pm or 12 am ...so it wouldn't always be my "fault" my kids are asleep on the way back to the hotel. I'm not asking you to give your seat up to me or anyone else in my situation, just pointing out that your rationalization is a little biased.

I agree totally and would also add that it could be at 11 am, 1 pm, etc. that the kids could fall asleep. younger children, the type you would most likely be holding, have the amazing ability to fall asleep at any time and anywhere. (Boy I wish I could still do that.)

Aside from the safety issue I think it is overboard to hold a sleeping child against a parent. This could a parent that is trying to extract a child from a problem situation. It could be that they were on the far side of a park, like Epcot at 8:00 and realized that thier child was at the end and started back. It could be that maybe that by the time the walked back, took a diaper or bathroom stop (sometimes a long stop... those of you with kids know how this can go. ) and then waited for a bus it may be 9:00 before they get on it and at that point the child falls asleep. These could be people that are trying to do the right thing.

My view is that there are some people that are clearly out of line. So much so that there isn't any ambiguity about it. (And I don't mean the people using the "voice of God" with thier children. Sometimes you just have to use that voice to prevent a serious problem. Its what they say to the child that gets me.) Aside from those that are clearly out there the rest should get the benefit of the doubt. I am not a big fan of the stroller nap and pushing around a kid in a stroller for hours that should be back at the hotel asleep but I also realize that there are lots of times where people need to do that and there are good reasone for it. I generally assume that if I see someone pushing around a stroller with a sleeping child late at night it is one of those times.

Like I said the ones that I have an issue with are the ones that are clearly out of line. The rest get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[dvc guy]

Last Chritmas we decided to stop by WDW for 2 days on the way to Palm Beach. We has EE at MK at 8 AM and at 11:30 PM I was begging the kids DD12 & DS 8 to please. please take me back to OKW because I was ready to drop. I think we got our money worth that day. The next day we were going to go to Sea World, want to guess if we made it????
NO way I had to drag the kids out of the room at noon

 

[DisneyFan09]

When we were just there, they did check all of our resort ID's.....I think that way you can't get your (realitives kids, friends, etc) and say they are staying with you and get them a bracelet for that night too.

Thank you for replying!! Hey, I'm from Iowa too!! There are not too many of us around!

 

[kidshop]

And what should happen if one of your kids is crying, but the other two are excited and happy to be in the parks late at night?

I've always thought that you can only move as fast as the 'weakest' member of the group.

Or one parent takes the unhappy one back to the room. Being a parent is difficult sometimes, even at WDW!

 

[rayelias]

If you look hard you will find kids crying and fussing all day long. Why don't you send a letter to Disney and ask that the kids be banned from the parks completely so you and the others like you can enjoy the parks.

I tried. Apparently, they said something about it being a "family" place, yada, yada, yada.

It's bad enough my real estate taxes have to go to educate these rugrats, but I have to spend my vacation around them too?

and, before I get flamed... I was JUST KIDDING!



(Well, not really, but I have to be realistic.)

 

[minijeanie]

well all I can say is that hopefully by the time I go to wdw which is mid june everyone in the world will read this thread and I will have picture perfect evenings...(yeah right)

but for me, my kids are teens, I have the ability to move away from a situation ..unlike many other parents with small kids in tow..

and let me ask this?

do most of you think this problem only exits in MK? or do you feel it is throughout the world..

personally, I have never had a problem with kids/parents.....
possibly on a bus going home
but I will not take the bus again
we either walk back to the resort
or drive home in our own car

so .....

which park has the most crying kids?

I believe it is MK

 

[Amy&Dan]

Hey, I agree with everybody (almost) and I have to sympathize with both sides. I agree with a previous poster that said WDW can be magical and also a nightmare! I think so many times parents do what they think is right only to find out it isn't. Maybe they know this is the last trip they will take with their kids since it so incredibly expensive. Most of the people on these boards go to WDW many times in their lifetimes and during their children's childhoods. Many of the people at the parks however, don't. They go once, period. So they are dying to get their money's worth and get that picture of little junior with Mickey because its a once in a lifetime thing. For some reason this thread is making me think of the night last month when we were at LTT. There was a dad in there with his two little boys, they were maybe 6 and 8. The older one was really being ill behaved. He kept yelling, running away from the table and standing by other tables, including ours. He would bang his fist on the table, sit on the ground and just yell. The dad kind of appeared to be just hurriedly eating and the other little boy looked miserable. I was getting annoyed thinking why doesn't this idiot take that kid that is way too old to be acting like that and leave? Then as we were getting ready to leave I heard the dad apologize to the younger boy and say:"remember, he can't help it". All of the sudden my dumb self realized this little guy had some problems. He wasn't a brat, he obviously had something much bigger going on and I had been a total judgemental pinhead. I felt so bad. I gave that man a big smile and told both of those little boys to have a great evening, were they going to Spectro, etc. That poor man looked like he would cry. I am sure he is used to people hating his guts at restaurants and knew the situation was out of control but was just trying to treat his kids to a character meal at Disneyworld. But I have to be honest and say that kid really put a damper on our evening and everybody else's sitting around them. I was ashamed of myelf but have to admit I didn't miss that child at the next character meal two days later. Parenting in the best of circumstances is so incredibly hard, I have seen my own kids act like crazed aliens and have heard myself say things in a bad moment that I regret for years!

 

[jenr812]

Hey, I agree with everybody (almost) and I have to sympathize with both sides. I agree with a previous poster that said WDW can be magical and also a nightmare! I think so many times parents do what they think is right only to find out it isn't. Maybe they know this is the last trip they will take with their kids since it so incredibly expensive. Most of the people on these boards go to WDW many times in their lifetimes and during their children's childhoods. Many of the people at the parks however, don't. They go once, period. So they are dying to get their money's worth and get that picture of little junior with Mickey because its a once in a lifetime thing. For some reason this thread is making me think of the night last month when we were at LTT. There was a dad in there with his two little boys, they were maybe 6 and 8. The older one was really being ill behaved. He kept yelling, running away from the table and standing by other tables, including ours. He would bang his fist on the table, sit on the ground and just yell. The dad kind of appeared to be just hurriedly eating and the other little boy looked miserable. I was getting annoyed thinking why doesn't this idiot take that kid that is way too old to be acting like that and leave? Then as we were getting ready to leave I heard the dad apologize to the younger boy and say:"remember, he can't help it". All of the sudden my dumb self realized this little guy had some problems. He wasn't a brat, he obviously had something much bigger going on and I had been a total judgemental pinhead. I felt so bad. I gave that man a big smile and told both of those little boys to have a great evening, were they going to Spectro, etc. That poor man looked like he would cry. I am sure he is used to people hating his guts at restaurants and knew the situation was out of control but was just trying to treat his kids to a character meal at Disneyworld. But I have to be honest and say that kid really put a damper on our evening and everybody else's sitting around them. I was ashamed of myelf but have to admit I didn't miss that child at the next character meal two days later. Parenting in the best of circumstances is so incredibly hard, I have seen my own kids act like crazed aliens and have heard myself say things in a bad moment that I regret for years!

Excellent post that I hope helps put things in perspective. It's ok to be peeved by this kind of stuff - it's human. But please don't be judgmental. You just don't know all the fac ts!!!!

 

[CuteKatCar]

I constantly tell my kids "worry about yourself". I hardly pay any attention to those crying kids because it happens to EVERYONE with kids. If it happens in passing, I have to agree with the poster who said "I just thank God that it's not me this time".

However, on one of our trips, we were sitting on the curb for Spectro. Once the parade started, the little boy behind us (around 4) started freaking out about the noise. And he was screaming and he wanted out of there. I'm not going to start another war with this one and tell you how it was handled. But I have to say it was quite annoying to listen to.

I did NOT come back home and bash the people on these boards!! These things happen. I have bigger things in my life to stress over.