New (continued) Birthday promotion

[queenie82]

Should I go and get the ENGLISH dictionary out for you????
SHOULD and ENTITLED are 2 different things
Should does not IMPLY Entitled
I was referring to this comment

Or that you are entitled so something just because it is offered to others.

and am also now referring to YOUR comment which AGAIN brings up the word entitled.

Rules similar to those for choosing between shall and will have long been advanced for should and would, but again the rules have had little effect on usage. In most constructions, would is the auxiliary chosen regardless of the person of the subject: If our allies would support the move, we would abandon any claim to sovereignty. You would be surprised at the complexity of the directions.
Because the main function of should in modern American English is to express duty, necessity, etc. (You should get your flu shot before winter comes), its use for other purposes, as to form a subjunctive, can produce ambiguity, at least initially: I should get my flu shot if I were you. Furthermore, should seems an affectation to many Americans when used in certain constructions quite common in British English: Had I been informed, I should (American would) have called immediately. I should (American would) really prefer a different arrangement. As with shall and will, most educated native speakers of American English do not follow the textbook rule in making a choice between should and would.

entitle verb (ALLOW)
/ɪnˈtaɪ.tl ̩//-t ̬l ̩/ [T]
to give someone the right to do or have something

I speak the ORIGINAL and PROPER english.

Just because I think they should - in that I would suggest it - I have no sense of entitlement....it is a WISH...not an expectation.
See how the ENGLISH language works. The CHOICE of word is important and you can't just CHANGE a word to what you feel like it to be.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

You said Disney needed to compensate you, which could be interpreted that you feel entitled to something.

All I asked was if Australia includes everyone in all their promotions and giveaways, which you didn't answer. Do they? If they don't, why in the world would you expect the US to include everyone?

 

[queenie82]

You said Disney needed to compensate you, which could be interpreted that you feel entitled to something.

All I asked was if Australia includes everyone in all their promotions and giveaways, which you didn't answer. Do they? If they don't, why in the world would you expect the US to include everyone?

Exactly how many words are you going to put in my mouth?
I DID NOT SAY NEED!!!!
I said S-H-O-U-L-D
Do I need to define Should again???

I do NOT need to answer your question because all I have ACTUALLY said is they should. This means it is irrelevant what other promotions are and who they are offered.


Disney have set a precedent of offering promotions to guests from around the world. They have done it the past 3 years. So this is why I think they SHOULD.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

I understand difficulty in managing the volunteering one to those outside the US and Canada but in compensation there should be SOME kind of promotion for those outside the US and Canada.

and just to play your game here is the definition of Compensation

com⋅pen⋅sa⋅tion
 
–noun
1. the act or state of compensating.
2. the state of being compensated.
3. something given or received as an equivalent for services, debt, loss, injury, suffering, lack, etc.; indemnity: The insurance company paid him $2000 as compensation for the loss of his car.
4. Biology. the improvement of any defect by the excessive development or action of another structure or organ of the same structure.
5. Psychology. a mechanism by which an individual attempts to make up for some real or imagined deficiency of personality or behavior by developing or stressing another aspect of the personality or by substituting a different form of behavior.


Do you really believe Disney owes you a debt for loss, injury or suffering?

 

[queenie82]

I have said they SHOULD offer this...not that I EXPECT it...
That which constitutes, or is regarded as, an equivalent;

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

Disney is suffering in our economy just like any other company, probably not as much but they are suffering. They found that the other promotions were more popular than they first expected and it would cost them too much money to continue in such a large scale.

That is why they came up with the Volunteer concept, they are hoping it wont be as popular and they wont have to give out as many free tickets. It is also why you can't get the free gift card as a substitute. Since they can't organizer the entire world (as you have already admitted) they included only the US and Canada.

If they were to compensate you with another promotion it would put them back into the large scale give away and negate all the changes they made.

 

[Tink91]

Wheres the Disney Love here guys??

 

[queenie82]

You may be shocked to realise but we do get international news and I do know all of this. Disney is cutting everywhere. But it is still a shame that this one is limited to only the US and Canada given the Worldwide promotions over the past 3 years. Rightly or wrongly it feels disappointing.


I haven't received any benefit from those past ones (with the exception of a dream fastpass at AK) even though I have been there then and honestly that isn't really the point. [What made the fastpass one exciting was simply the magic of it...even though there were no queues so we couldn't "use" it]
The point is rather the magic of the feeling of the promotion and the CHANCE of something happening. The fact there is very specific exclusion with this promotion has a disappointing and sad feeling to it.


I actually would REALLY REALLY love to work for Habitat for Humanity in New Orleans but our flights had so many restrictions we couldn't add New Orleans to our itinerary. If I had the money to change it I would volunteer for it and NOT because of the promotion...but rather for the experience (I'm already in the building industry) and I think this is an AMAZING promotion.


But I just think there should be something else....something that doesn't cost a tonne of money...something that just adds a little pixie dust in the air.
YOMD added that. I know it can't come back but given the REPEATED advertising of going to Disney to Celebrate they should attach something to that. I think the offer of a $75 gift voucher was TOO generous and I think ultimately that is the problem. That went way over budget so now there is nothing for 2010 that just ANYONE can get.

Just free fastpasses would be nice. Something very very simple.
It doesn't have to be something given to everyone...it is just something you COULD get and it is the luck of the draw.

I don't expect it and I don't feel I deserve any more entitlement than another. This is why I NEVER used those words.
THIS is why I got so angry.
Why people insist on putting words in others mouths I will never understand
The only poor word choice I made was compensation. A better way of phrasing it would have been an additional promotion available to all. To me compensation actually had a definition before we became a litigation - who can we get money for nothing from - society...and I simply meant it as another promotion available to those excluded.



ANYWAY
I just feel like this has too much of an exclusionary nature about it. You might find this belief wrong. But it is the way I feel.
I don't expect the SAME promotion .... as I say something as simple as free fastpasses for those celebrating their birthday would be nice and beyond the paper it is printed on it costs them nothing.


I think it is VERY sad if not many take up this promotion. To me the whole POINT of it is to get more people off their backsides volunteering to help people. It may cost Disney more money but I DO hope they run out of tickets quickly because it means people are being helped.

 

[nunzia]

I can understand people being being disappointed that they can't participate in a promotion, and it is indeed hard to express things online sometimes without then coming across in certain ways. So, I do understand the disappointment and sorry if I went off a little as I had just read several long and angry threads about small matters relating to the DVC world, and that mememe attitude, so I apologize if I came off snarky.
We are all so fortunate to have jobs and health and be able to plan these wonderful trips with our family and friends, sometimes I'd just like to see more of that spirit.
I understand that Australians have to pay a TON to come here and don't begrudge them their special ticket rate. I'd love to visit Australia..beautiful country..but the cost is way out of my league (not to mention the horribly long plane trip which terrifies me).
So, to everyone and volunteer even if you don't get anything and you'll still feel better than a free day or a mouse ears figurine will make you feel.

 

[Tink91]

You may be shocked to realise but we do get international news and I do know all of this.

Theres no need to be mean..

 

[ashpinoza]

where is sherry! this has turned into a whirlwind of mean comments and lashing!

 

[Tink91]

where is sherry! this has turned into a whirlwind of mean comments and lashing!

 

[bumbershoot]

1-I'm not sure what your point is re Canadians.
My point was that both USA AND Canadians can do it. Perhaps you could read what you quote first

You wrote "That excludes all non US and Canadian guests." That *could* be read as non-US and Canadian, or as you meant it non-US-and-Canadian. So rather it being someone not reading what you wrote, it comes down to a matter of interpretation of what "non" modifies.


Have you written to them asking why they don't have it open to others? I bet it's just something to do with having networks where they can verify the hours volunteered, etc. Or perhaps other countries can't receive *anything* for volunteer work?

Found out amazon's going to be doing a WDW trip giveaway...we can't participate as that's where hubby works, aughhhh. Sometimes things just aren't fair.