New building at grand Florida accessible to resale?

[jrieder]

Hello I recently heard that they adding or designating new rooms at Grand Floridian to Dvc I'm just wondering if I would have access to this if I bought through resale?

 

[intamin]

You do have access to reserve at the new building as it's all under one association.

 

[jrieder]

You do have access to reserve at the new building as it's all under one association.

Okay how come Riviera is not included? I'm assuming it's a new association?

 

[intamin]

Okay how come Riviera is not included? I'm assuming it's a new association?

Riviera is not included because they implemented resale restrictions in 2019 and Riviera was the first resort to have them where going forward resale owners are not allowed to book new resorts. The original Grand Floridian DVC association was made in 2014 which is why there's only 40 years left on the contract for Grand Floridian even if you buy it directly from Disney right now as opposed to the full 50. They're currently selling it but since it's not a new association, resale owners are allowed to book there.

This is why nobody knows right now if resale owners will be able to book the new Polynesian tower. It depends entirely on whether or not the new tower is part of the old association which was made in 2016 before resale restrictions were implemented or if it will be a new association which has resale restrictions applied like Riviera.

An example of 2 separate associations being part of the same resort would be Copper Creek and Boulder Ridge. Both are pre-2019 so it doesn't matter as neither have resale restrictions but both have their own 11 month booking priority and different room types despite being adjacent to one another and together being known as Wilderness Lodge. However, one has contracts that expire in 2042, and the other's contracts expire in 2068.

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

Villas at Disneyland Hotel was the second property under the new rule. But yes we all wonder if Poly2 will be a new association or not. I’d assume the fort wilderness cabins will have the restriction.

 

[intamin]

Yeup. Going forward I wouldn't expect any more resorts to be able to be booked by resale. Potentially the Polynesian tower but that's unknown at this time.

 

[jrieder]

Well that's crazy interesting. So many stipulations associations rules and loopholes. I'm looking forward to staying at the new units at Grand Floridian. Any idea when they'll be done.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Well that's crazy interesting. So many stipulations associations rules and loopholes. I'm looking forward to staying at the new units at Grand Floridian. Any idea when they'll be done.

Early 2022….

 

[eticketplease]

Well that's crazy interesting. So many stipulations associations rules and loopholes. I'm looking forward to staying at the new units at Grand Floridian. Any idea when they'll be done.

They were finished and opened in June 2022

 

[JulieBeeRN]

I was super confused for a hot second.

 

[jrieder]

I was super confused for a hot second.

Lol I guess I'm a little slow. The new ones that they're building are the Polynesian got that confused.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Lol I guess I'm a little slow. The new ones that they're building are the Polynesian got that confused.

Commonly referred to as Poly2 on the board. We don’t know wether it will be part of the current Poly association (with resale access except for Rivera and future Disneyland tower contracts) or a new association (with only direct or future Poly2 resale access).

There are some good articles about the subject on DVCFan.com

 

[The Jackal]

Granted when DVC announced VGF2, they immediately announced it was part of VGF1 association. POLY2 was announced a while ago and should go on sale in about 6 months and there has been no word on the association. I could be wrong, but I am leaning it will be a separate association.

 

[intamin]

Granted when DVC announced VGF2, they immediately announced it was part of VGF1 association. POLY2 was announced a while ago and should go on sale in about 6 months and there has been no word on the association. I could be wrong, but I am leaning it will be a separate association.

I think part of me is leaning towards separate just because of how big the building is. This wasn't some quick flip like VGF2, this is it's own full blown tower. Disney doesn't just build these things out of the kindness of their heart and to provide more options to owners. We may be looking at a CCV/BRV situation here. As per everything in this entire thread though all speculation.. hell just a couple weeks ago I was saying it may be the same because it would fill the niche for 1/2/3BRs for PVB so I really don't know. I keep going back and forth. What I do know is these boards are going to explode once they finally announce what it is and we'll have a group of people who are very disappointed that it's the same/different association and others who are very happy it's the same/different association and that will spark a lot of debate lol.