Network television is really becoming a cesspool.

[Metsfan520]

OMG such attitudes is why we are flooded with illegal aliens, socialistic policies and no money in the budget.

I don't know what to say to this.

 

[We_Love_Disney]

I'm stunned that you publicly attack the right of others to live in accordance with beliefs and values other than those you feel they should live in accordance with. I find that perspective, in the words of the US Court of Appeals, "chilling".

I find vegetarians frightening.

 

[We_Love_Disney]

I don't know what to say to this.

Just agree, you know you want to.

 

[ICF]

It takes a village and if the village is having wildly free sex on the streets then its okay?

Is it better if they paid for it???

The problem is that what YOU feel is moral may not be what others feel is moral.

Society sets the norms. Here is the US if you show a woman's **** on tv people act as if the world is coming to an end. In Europe, it's shown all the time and kids (nor some adults) dont go blind from seeing them.

Violence is big here on tv, and as far as I know that is what causes the uproar over there.

If people dont like something, then just change the channel. Really, how much TV do you watch in public places that you might be exposed to something that will damage you or your children??? I dont need you to tell me what I can or cant watch on TV. It would be a boring world if we had 1 channel that was so plain it wouldnt offend anyone and that was all we had to watch.

 

[rainydayplay]

Yet on the other hand, a TV show like All in the Family couldn't possibly on TV now due to political correctness.

I think we are all a little screwy now.

I see All in the Family come on TV Land all the time . Maybe I don't understand what you mean.

Archie Bunker was a very racist, mysoginistic person. Of course, to an extent, it added to the charm of the show because he was so very obviously wrong with a lot of his comments about race and women's place in the home/society, it's a lot of what made the show funny. But, today, if a show came out with a main character who was so obviously non-PC, it probably wouldn't last very long. (Someone else who's ignoring that this thread was started over half a year ago can feel free to explain it better than that.)

The words don't bother me, but I don't have small children to be concerned with. A lot of people use this language in real life so I'm thinking the usage described here is pretty mainstream. Whether that is good or bad is another discussion, but that's my observation.

Hollywood is working overtime with the shock factor and trying to make it seem that everyone 'talks' or 'acts' that way. Is it any wonder America is swirling down the toilet regarding the morals and attitude?

Sadly, there are a lot of people who do behave and speak in the manner depicted in tv/movies/etc. The other day, I was in line to check out at a store, and the girl behind me (maybe early 20s) was talking to a guy she was with. It was f-this and f-that. I think the offensive part is that these words are used so freely. An occassional one peppered here and there would show intense feeling about something. Using them seemingly every other word, though? Unnecessary, and, for some people, it just seems like they really don't know any better or just don't understand why it's not appropriate word choice. (BTW, I love the episode of Spongebob with the "sentence enhancers". That's what it should be if used...and "enhancer" to underscore some feeling as opposed to a companion to the word "the".)

How about all the commercials for E.D.? Like I want to know - NOT. Those are on all day, everyday. And the K-Y ads - OMB There is no humility left for those people

I can't stand those commercials or the fact that there is no declared when-you-can-show-this time. At least the ads for the 1-900 numbers that used to come on USA came on after 10pm. The local radio station that I used to listen to ran ads for a local strip club. What bothered me about the ads was that they were on between 6 and 8 am, when parents (like me) who are driving their kids to school have to listen to them and have their kids listen to them. Yeah, sure...change the station...but if that's your station of choice, turning it every 5-10 minutes so you don't have to hear a 30-60 second ad gets a little ridiculous. (Yes, I listen to a different station or play my Disney CDs now. )

 

[We_Love_Disney]

Archie Bunker was a very racist, mysoginistic person. Of course, to an extent, it added to the charm of the show because he was so very obviously wrong with a lot of his comments about race and women's place in the home/society, it's a lot of what made the show funny. But, today, if a show came out with a main character who was so obviously non-PC, it probably wouldn't last very long. (Someone else who's ignoring that this thread was started over half a year ago can feel free to explain it better than that.)





Sadly, there are a lot of people who do behave and speak in the manner depicted in tv/movies/etc. The other day, I was in line to check out at a store, and the girl behind me (maybe early 20s) was talking to a guy she was with. It was f-this and f-that. I think the offensive part is that these words are used so freely. An occassional one peppered here and there would show intense feeling about something. Using them seemingly every other word, though? Unnecessary, and, for some people, it just seems like they really don't know any better or just don't understand why it's not appropriate word choice. (BTW, I love the episode of Spongebob with the "sentence enhancers". That's what it should be if used...and "enhancer" to underscore some feeling as opposed to a companion to the word "the".)





I can't stand those commercials or the fact that there is no declared when-you-can-show-this time. At least the ads for the 1-900 numbers that used to come on USA came on after 10pm. The local radio station that I used to listen to ran ads for a local strip club. What bothered me about the ads was that they were on between 6 and 8 am, when parents (like me) who are driving their kids to school have to listen to them and have their kids listen to them. Yeah, sure...change the station...but if that's your station of choice, turning it every 5-10 minutes so you don't have to hear a 30-60 second ad gets a little ridiculous. (Yes, I listen to a different station or play my Disney CDs now. )

Careful you will be attacked for thinking this way.

 

[rainydayplay]

Society sets the norms. Here is the US if you show a woman's **** on tv people act as if the world is coming to an end. In Europe, it's shown all the time and kids (nor some adults) dont go blind from seeing them.

I am reminded of this commercial (either European or Australian) for an airline service. A husband comes home early and thinks he's going to surprise his wife. He strips down to his bday suit, puts a rose between his teeth, and goes bounding into the room where his wife is...only to find her in there with her parents. Yes, they showed his naked bum in a commercial. It was a humorous commercial, but I can't see it being done here in the US.

 

[JenM]

It takes a village and if the village is having wildly free sex on the streets then its okay? We should just ignore it. If the neighbors are screaming swears outside, it should be ignored? If the cars going by your house are speeding, we should ignore it? If the people are walking through the streets without clothing, that should be okay, and we should ignore it, because we have the ability to close our windows, shut our doors and hide under the covers? Is that what you are saying??

I bet that village would be really popular, though.

 

[Metsfan520]

Just agree, you know you want to.

Sorry, no I don't.

 

[rainydayplay]

Careful you will be attacked for thinking this way.

If someone chooses to tell me my opinion is wrong, I also have the ability to do what I did for the radio station and it's content I didnt like. Move on to something else. We're not all supposed to have the same opinion, but I can see where both sides of this argument are coming from.

You see that, even if you turn off your TV, there are print ads, radio songs, etc., that just aren't that easy to avoid 24-7. I agree. We have the ability to avoid SOME of the horrible things, but not all of it. And even worse when your child starts emulating some of this behavior, and you know he/she didn't come in contact with it in your home but when out with friends and others. (Lesson there: teach your child to understand right/wrong and/or how to make good choices the best you can while you can.)

And on the other side (Bicker, etc.) are those with the opinion that, if you censor one thing, it leads to the possibility that too much can be censored. We were given free will to be able to make our own decisions and to judge right from wrong for ourselves. If we find it offensive, do something about it. You can ask the person speaking offensively around your child to stop (and they often don't realize there is a child there...when we've corrected and said, "please mind your language, there are children present," we've always gotten an apology, and the conversation was either edited or suspended for a moment or two -- until the children were away.) We can also use these moments as "teachable moments" around our children...why it wouldn't be the best idea to talk a certain way or dress a certain way, or act a certain way...whatever. At any rate...it is up to us as human beings to decide for ourselves what is right for us and our families and do the best we can. We won't change the world, and if the tv is offending you....turn it off.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Yesterday on General Hospital, one of the characters said, "Shut up! You want to act like a man but you're acting like a little (female dog)!!"

Daytime soap operas have spent years with characters who murder, have affairs, do drugs, embezzle, etc.

Why was use of the word b*tch the straw that broke the camels back?

 

[FireDancer]

Daytime soap operas have spent years with characters who murder, have affairs, do drugs, embezzle, etc.

Why was use of the word b*tch the straw that broke the camels back?

It is because of the children, obviously. Hearing that word will lead to orgies in the streets across America. It goes like this:

Step 1: Child hears naughty language on the television
Step 2: Something happens (no one really knows what)
Step3: Orgies in the streets.

 

[AshleyW]

I find vegetarians frightening.

Seriously, you said you put him on ignore? Is this going to be the new YAGE, where you tell someone you put them on ignore and then keep responding to them?

 

[plutotek]

How about all the commercials for E.D.? Like I want to know - NOT.

This is the ONLY comment that makes much sense, but only from the perspective that you can add musical feminine product commercials to that list. As for the rest, like the saying goes, you're entitled to your own opinion, no matter how misguided.

 

[MissFitt]

It is because of the children, obviously. Hearing that word will lead to orgies in the streets across America.

Please, will somebody look out for the children!

I want to know who lets their children watch soap operas????

I also want to know who is going to protect my children from this mind numbing thinking..."OMG such attitudes is why we are flooded with illegal aliens, socialistic policies and no money in the budget"

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

I would expect anyone killing their 4th mistress they have had since their last comma which they were in because they were in a car accident while fleeing the state with their kidnapped love child to not use naughty language while doing it of course.

Amazing!!

You can tell I grew up in the age of curse words, skin, sex, and reality tv because nothing phases me on tv anymore lol

 

[tvguy]

Yesterday on General Hospital, one of the characters said, "Shut up! You want to act like a man but you're acting like a little (female dog)!!" I have to say I'm quite shocked that female dog would be used in that context without shame on network TV. Is anyone else shocked? Because I am.

Not to mention that the "female dog" comment is typically reserved for women. So it was a kind of a misogynistic statement.

I stopped watching General Hospital in 1970, but they talked like that then.

 

[bicker]

I find vegetarians frightening.

Must be all those soybeans who are kept in cruel captivity until their lives are snuffed out, so that we may have our tofu.

And on the other side (Bicker, etc.) are those with the opinion that, if you censor one thing, it leads to the possibility that too much can be censored.

It isn't really that, though: I believe in measured censorship. If the program is rated TV-7, and yet still contains repetitious or deliberate cussing, then string the producers up (figuratively), afaic. I just believe, as the US Court of Appeals did, that this censorship we're talking about was unreasonable. Censorship when it is unnecessary (i.e., when the content could be filtered out by v-chip, for example) or when a penalty is assessed for an accidental, fleeting gaff - those are instances of unreasonable censorship. The way that the FCC has been handling the situation, since the Janet Jackson Superbowl incident, has been abominably puritanical, far beyond any reasonable interpretation of the set of consensus societal values.

if the tv is offending you....turn it off.

Absolutely.

 

[rainydayplay]

It isn't really that, though: I believe in measured censorship. If the program is rated TV-7, and yet still contains repetitious or deliberate cussing, then string the producers up (figuratively), afaic. I just believe, as the US Court of Appeals did, that this censorship we're talking about was unreasonable. Censorship when it is unnecessary (i.e., when the content could be filtered out by v-chip, for example) or when a penalty is assessed for an accidental, fleeting gaff - those are instances of unreasonable censorship. The way that the FCC has been handling the situation, since the Janet Jackson Superbowl incident, has been abominably puritanical, far beyond any reasonable interpretation of the set of consensus societal values.

Measured censorship, sure. Just as we should be able to censor ourselves in conversation and make sure what we're saying is appropriate for our audience. (Although, the way I read your earlier statements..or may have been someone else's since I'm not taking the time to go back and quote, it would be better to have no censorship and let each person watch and decide for him/herself than to try to censor everything and hope everyone is appeased and unoffended. I'm not on the bandwagon with total non-censorship, either. Give me enough to either know I need to steer my 6 year old in the other direction, or at least be reasonabe about the hours it's presented.)

But if the appropriate warnings and whatnot are there and the person chooses to complain rather than turn it off, stating that what's there isn't enough...well, we can't please everyone, and it's certainly unreasonable to expect that the filter for everyone should 100% unoffensive to all.

Stuff like this always makes me think about "Harrison Bergeron". It's the extreme example of trying to make everyone happy & equal.

 

[bicker]

Measured censorship, sure. Just as we should be able to censor ourselves in conversation and make sure what we're saying is appropriate for our audience.

And remember that the audience for a television program is who the broadcaster targets. So a television show rated TV-MA DLSV would include content that a television show rated TV-Y would never include.

(Although, the way I read your earlier statements..or may have been someone else's since I'm not taking the time to go back and quote, it would be better to have no censorship and let each person watch and decide for him/herself than to try to censor everything and hope everyone is appeased and unoffended.

That was definitely not me.

I'm not on the bandwagon with total non-censorship, either. Give me enough to either know I need to steer my 6 year old in the other direction, or at least be reasonabe about the hours it's presented.)

Viewers should rely on, and should be able to rely on, the ratings: TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-G, TV-PG, TV-14, TV-MA -- more than enough granularity afaic.