need help, childrens IQ test

[Mommy2three]

Hi all! Does anyone know of any sites that offer a free children's IQ test? If so, could you please PM me the site or reply with the web address? Thanks all!

 

[golfgal]

I am sure there are plenty online but I don't know of any off hand. What are you looking for? IQ tests really don't tell you much actually.

 

[Mommy2three]

i am looking for tests that will help me determine if she is where she is supposed to be age wise as far as education goes, just wondering if shes just playing stupid in school to get attention so i want to do some testing at home with her. according to her teacher she is very far behind, can't read or write, or recoginize letters or numbers, or understand lots of things in school. i talked to the school therapist who said they are not planning on holding her back, but geez she is so far behind i'm afraid to move her onto the first grade, so i would like to do some testing online at home with her to see if she is actually that far behind. does that make sense? lol

 

[taximomfor4]

I would recommend finding a psychoeducational professional in your area. Another choice is to request testing at the school, but their interests might interfere...who knows. So find someone reputable in your area, that is the safest bet for more accurate results. HOWEVER -- IQ tests won't necessarily improve the school experiece. My dd's IQ test put her in the Doogie Howser range (according to the psych who tested her) but she does NOT get straight A's, doesn't get supplemental or alternate education at school, etc. And we know not to expect it. We let Katie pursue other interests and read other materials at home. At school she does the often redundant work needed to get through a school day, week, year.

IQ tests will NEVER be accurate online because too many answers require interpretation by a trained professional. In fact, almost everyone I know who does online IQ tests end up geniuses according to the websites. GOod luck with your daughter. And if necessary, supplement at home instead of trying to individualize education in an institutionalized setting. That is a truly uphill battle unless it is a school set up for that.

Beth

 

[golfgal]

Can she do those things at home? She should be able to write all the letters, upper and lower case, count to 100, recognize 8 colors, basic shapes like circle, square, triangle, rectangle. She should be able to write her first and last name as well as recognize her name on a piece of paper. I don't think you are going to get any answers with an online test. What you need to do is ask for an evaluation. They HAVE to give you this within 2-3 weeks. There should be a school psychologist that will administer tests to determine if she is having learning problems or what ever. Contact her teacher today, ask for the evaluation and go from there. If they give you any problems, your district should have someone that is in charge of the Special education for the district, contact that person if necessary.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

children develop at different speeds, especially that young. when I was in 3rd grade my parents had me IQ tested at a local college because my teacher deemed me 'gifted'. then they sent me to a 'gifted' school. it didn't mean anything, most kids all catch up with each other in the end.

work with her and give her a little time. school's new to her, maybe she just doesn't want to do the work right now.

 

[luvmyfam444]

You can look up your states requirements online - what they want your child to know by the end of kindergarten.

As far as the IQ goes I have a friend who's ds tested as gifted & now goes to a gifted program -in 2nd grade-but can't even read!!! : which naturally makes no sense at all to me.....

 

[mcnuss]

Hi all! Does anyone know of any sites that offer a free children's IQ test? If so, could you please PM me the site or reply with the web address? Thanks all!

An IQ test is not a very good predictor of school performance. I don't understand how they can tell you that she can't do any of those things but that they will promote her. I'd start with a meeting with the teacher and the counselor, and possibly the principal, too. You need to net out the issues more than you need to know a score on an IQ test so that you can really help her. Some of the smartest kids out there also have LD's.

 

[Tiffann4k]

according to her teacher she is very far behind, can't read or write, or recoginize letters or numbers, or understand lots of things in school.

So why not sit down and see if she can read or write, if she knows her letters & numbers and then take it from there. You as a mother should know if she knows those things or not... right??

 

[simpilotswife]

Mommy2three send a letter to your school and request that you child be formally evaluated. Send a copy of that letter to the school psychologist, the building principal and the Special Education department head. By law your school district must evaluate your child if the parent puts the request in writing.

Once they have evaluated your child, they will have a meeting with you to discuss the results of the testing. If you do not agree with what they tell you then you can request that the district pay for an outside evaluation.

One other thing, if they get the letter and tell you that the testing does not need to be done insist that they do it anyway. Some schools/districts tell the parents that the kids don't need testing but it is not up to them. By law the district cannot refuse to test her.

 

[Daisy Duck 5]

I just learned about IQ testing in psyc class don't trust any of the tests you see online.

 

[EthansMom]

IQ testing isn't a reliable indicator of accedemic aptitude, especially in young children.

I agree with other posters who've recommended that you formally request an educational evaluation by the school. In most states, the school is required to perform an evaluation once you request it.

If this were my child, I would be working on the problem areas at home. I would get flashcards and workbooks and spend a few minutes each evening going over them. DS4 loves to sit in my lap and go over flashcards. We have the alphabet flashcards and a set that are numbers, colors, and shapes. DS also loves the BrainQuest cards that teach a little bit of everything. (While it's possible that this won't help your daughter, it certainly couldn't hurt.)

Also, if my child were severely behind, I would not want him/her promoted to the next grade level. In my opinion, a child would be much better off to be held back at an early age than to be promoted to a grade where he or she is bound to fail.

 

[tw1nsmom]

IQ testing really needs to be done by professionals. It also will not test a child in their reading and writing ability. It will test intelligence, not skills,

 

[WDWAurora]

As a future school psychologist, don't do the online tests. I wouldn't be spending years in school learning how to accurately administer IQ tests if you could just take an online test and have accurate results. MY IQ is high enough to know that would be a waste of my time. Like they said, request she be evaluated. It's not traumatic or scary or anything. One word of advice though-never call it testing. She'll perform better if it's just called "stuff" and "games" that kind of thing. You want her to perform her absolute best so that it is an accurate measure of her current cognitive abilities (and achievement level).

 

[teacherforhi]

One other thing, if they get the letter and tell you that the testing does not need to be done insist that they do it anyway. Some schools/districts tell the parents that the kids don't need testing but it is not up to them. By law the district cannot refuse to test her.

This isn't true. Per IDEA, a parent request must be considered by the school-based committed (which is what it's called here). The committee will meet and decide whether or not further testing is warranted based on interventions done in the regular classroom. The parent, of course, has the right to appeal the decision if they do not agree.

Having said that, if the teacher believes the child has a significant deficiences, why isn't she referring the child to be tested herself? I would be livid that a teacher didn't believe my child had the skills required to advance, but was going to pass the child anyway.

 

[tw1nsmom]

This isn't true. Per IDEA, a parent request must be considered by the school-based committed (which is what it's called here). The committee will meet and decide whether or not further testing is warranted based on interventions done in the regular classroom. The parent, of course, has the right to appeal the decision if they do not agree.

Actually, it's more the opposite. Once a parental referral is made a school district has 60 business days to conduct the evaluation, have the cse or cpse meeting, determine eligibility, and impliment an IEP or 504 is warranted. If during that process the child study team doesn't believe an evaluation is warranted, it is up to them to convince a parent to withdraw the referral. If the referral isn't withdrawn, then the evaluation must occur. The parent also has input as to what tests should be used.

The child study team purpose is to determine what kinds of tests are appropriate for a given child. It isn't legally supposed to be up to them as to whether or not an evaluation occurs. You cannot look at student performance alone when deciding to evaluate a child. A child can be performing at grade level and still have a disability. In this case they would qualify for a 504, but they would still ned to be evaluated.

Many very well meaning educators and school districts (and some not so well meaning ones...not referring to the quoted poster) accidentally or purposefully misenterpret special education law. And yes, I'm a special education advocate.

 

[teacherforhi]

Actually, it's more the opposite. Once a parental referral is made a school district has 60 business days to conduct the evaluation, have the cse or cpse meeting, determine eligibility, and impliment an IEP or 504 is warranted. If during that process the child study team doesn't believe an evaluation is warranted, it is up to them to convince a parent to withdraw the referral. If the referral isn't withdrawn, then the evaluation must occur. The parent also has input as to what tests should be used.

The child study team purpose is to determine what kinds of tests are appropriate for a given child. It isn't legally supposed to be up to them as to whether or not an evaluation occurs. You cannot look at student performance alone when deciding to evaluate a child. A child can be performing at grade level and still have a disability. In this case they would qualify for a 504, but they would still ned to be evaluated.

Many very well meaning educators and school districts (and some not so well meaning ones...not referring to the quoted poster) accidentally or purposefully misenterpret special education law. And yes, I'm a special education advocate.

And I'm a special education teacher. In North Carolina, the school has 90 days from the day of referral to close out a case. If it's a parent referral, the school-based committee has the option to either refer the child for further interventions, refer the child for special education evaluation, or to close out the file. If the committee refers the child for evaluation, the complete evaluation must be done and a decision regarding evaluation must be completed within the same 90-day timeframe.

North Carolina also has very strict guidelines as to what sort of evaluations are required. We don't ask the parent what tests they want. We show them the state regulations and inform them of the evaluations that will be conducted.

And yes, in North Carolina, one of the prevailing items brought up again and again is how is the child performing academically. If the child is performing at grade level, then whatever disability they have is obviously not affecting their educational performance and therefore they would not qualify for special education services.

 

[dbarker]

I don't have any help on testing, but an experience. I did not think my DS7 had progressed enough in K to move to 1st Grade. The teacher let me know he that he met the minimum requrirements to move on to 1st grade. I requested that he be held back. He is now in his 2nd yr of K. He is doing much, much better and is nearly a free-reader now. He is more inquisitive and more willing to learn than he was a year ago. I think we made a very wise decision.

 

[Beca]

If you have a 4yr university near you with an education or psycology department, they can administer tests for you. However, I would not request and IQ test, I would request the Gesell (pronounced like gazelle) readiness test. This test is commonly used by schools all over the US to test children upon entering kindergarten to see if they are ready to learn. One of the GREAT things about this test is that it is truly developmental (i.e. it tests social, verbal, fine motor, and other developmental areas). It rates children on a "developmental" age up to 72 months.

My dd goes to preschool, and the teacher approached me saying that they suspect my dd was not in the "developmental age appropriate" class. They asked if they could test her, and sure enough....she is not similarly developed to kids her own age. She just turned 4, and is just now beginning to read. I didn't know how much to trust this test (how can you test a child accurately who cannot read, and how scary is this going to be for her), but in conference with her teacher....she really seemed to "nail" my daughter's abilities after administering this test.

It is a long story, but my dd doesn't seem to make friendships with kids her own age....they don't "get" each other. My dd has always had close friends a couple of years older than her, but she doesn't seem to relate to kids her own age. After testing with the Gesell test, the results showed that my daughter is developmentally most similar to a 5.5 yr old. The school is moving her to a class of older kids next year to see if she can "fit in" a little better. We are NOT moving her up a grade...I am not at all comfortable with that, but we are giving her a year with older kids to see if she can make friendships.

The test "goes thru back doors" to test the kid's intelligence. It is administered verbally, but asks the kids to write in a series of "getting to know you" games. They also ask the kids to draw a picture of a certain item/person, and compare the detail to the average of kids to see where that might place them. They look at how the child holds a pen/pencil, and many other factors.

I think this is much more helpful than a straight IQ test....that really tests only one area of readiness. Your child could be VERY bright, but have other issues that IQ test would not show. In my case, they thought my daughter had serious socialization issues. They told me before the test that she was "immature" for her age. Now, they are moving her to be with older kids. Now they say that she and the younger students are too different developmentally to "get" each other, and that all 5 years are too socially immature to adapt for those differences, so they think she might benefit by being with older kids for a year.

There are SOO many things they can do to adapt to a child, instead of asking the child to adapt....proper testing is essential to placing your child correctly.

Good luck,



Beca

 

[tw1nsmom]

And I'm a special education teacher. In North Carolina, the school has 90 days from the day of referral to close out a case. If it's a parent referral, the school-based committee has the option to either refer the child for further interventions, refer the child for special education evaluation, or to close out the file. If the committee refers the child for evaluation, the complete evaluation must be done and a decision regarding evaluation must be completed within the same 90-day timeframe.

North Carolina also has very strict guidelines as to what sort of evaluations are required. We don't ask the parent what tests they want. We show them the state regulations and inform them of the evaluations that will be conducted.

And yes, in North Carolina, one of the prevailing items brought up again and again is how is the child performing academically. If the child is performing at grade level, then whatever disability they have is obviously not affecting their educational performance and therefore they would not qualify for special education services.

Then if what you say is true (and I'm sure it is), your school may be in compliance with North Carolina laws, but North Carolina Laws aren't in compliance with federal laws. This is why so many lawsuits clog up the system.

And when I said parents choosing tests. This would most often be interpreted as listening to parent concerns and observations and the school using that information to choose appropriate tests.

Please, don't have the false assumption that just because your school district or state has certain policies that they are actually fallowing the law correctly. Even in New York the state and many school districts have recently been sued, and lost, due to misenterpretations of (or ignoring) the IDEA.