Nathaniel’s Wish Trip *NYC Disney Newsies* PTR 10/8/12

I don't know how much extra time you have. Your son might enjoy the atmosphere at Ellen's Stardust Diner which has singing waitstaff that hope to work on Broadway. I don't know the food allergy part of it.

If you are Jewish and the kids don't mind a museum that has parts for younger kids my kids loved the Jewish Children's Museum in Brooklyn. They recently opened a new floor which includes a holocaust exhibit. Some of the exhibits are interesting for all ages and the arts and craft part has some older kid/adult interest items.

If dancing is an interest we also enjoyed the Radio City Music Hall tour. We met a Rockette on the tour. Another place my kids enjoyed was the USS Intrepid. My kids are 8 and 12. My oldest has asked to go to the UN on a future NYC trip.

I hope you have a wonderful and enjoy everything you do.
 
Does anyone know of any restaurants that are good with food allergies or that is gluten free?

It sounds like a dream come true for him--I'm so glad. Newsies is a great deal of fun--very active and full of energy. I'm sure he'll have a great time.

Some of the things you've listed will be more fun than others for a boy of his age. Wall Street, for example, isn't particularly impressive to look at, and it certainly isn't the most vibrant or colorful thing to see.

Some of the best things to do in New York, though, are great for kids of his age. The Natural History Museum is one of my absolute favorite places in the whole city. The top of the Empire State Building is great for views and worth the trip. The Staten Island Ferry will take you all around the harbor, and it's free! (The Statue of Liberty is itself a bit of a letdown inside, but you can see it up close and personal on the ferry.)

Walking around the neighborhoods can be tons of fun. Chinatown can be fantastic and vibrant; and I remember finding Washington Square to be totally hip and grown up.

Central Park is always a winner. Oct is a bit between seasons (too early for ice skating, too late for lazing about with a picnic), but you can always walk around, see the sights, and enjoy the zoo. Another great recent park addition is the New York High Line, that runs down the West Side in midtown.

In terms of other museums, the Children's Museum of Art can be cool (art by and for kids), though it may skew a little young in places. The Tenement Museum is fascinating, especially if he's going to go see Newsies (tenements are where Davy's family would have stayed in the original movie). The Metropolitan Museum of Art can feel pretty grown up, but the Temple of Dendur (a full Egyptian temple in a giant glass-windowed room) is super cool. Finally, the New York Historical Society just opened a giant kids' museum, that lets kids explore the history of New York.

As for transport, don't worry! The subways are pretty straightforward--just get a sense of where you're going before you get on. (Maps aren't great in the station, though they're in every subway car.) The subway stations are grosser than the subway cars themselves--just think of it as part of the charm of New York.

And as for taxis, they're relatively cheap and really easy to navigate. Don't be afraid to just stand on the corner and stick your hand out--when you get in, tell them where you're going, and it really shouldn't be a problem. If you're not going very far, it's usually not much more expensive with three people than taking the subway. (Though, for day to day stuff, you should def do the subway when you can.)

Finally, NYC is the place to be if you have food restrictions--there's a restaurant for everything! Try this: http://www.urbanspoon.com/gt/3/100/1/Manhattan-Gluten-Free-Friendly-New-York-Restaurants . You can sort by neighborhood and by cuisine.

I hope your son has just the best time!
 
Ok first, every station has maps posted but you don't buy a paper subway map to carry around, just ask at any booth in the station, they'll hand you one.

Second, as to the lists... I'm not sure why some of these things are on your lists, like if you have particular attachments. I'm also not sure what some are and I was born on this island, heh.

What is the Federal Hall National Memorial??

Wall Street is just a street, like literally. You'll see it if you're down there - as you seem to have an interest in financial things, you'd probably want to add the bull, he's famous.

"Ground Zero" isn't really a thing. There's the 9-11 memorial but the site itself is a construction site. You can go look at it but it's construction.

Statue of Liberty I'd skip unless you're into it.

What you're missing downtown is the TENEMENT MUSEUM! It's awesome and very NY history, it's not something you'll see anyplace else.

Your midtown list also has some confusing stuff. The Chrysler bldg is just there. It's not like the Empire State where you can go up, it's just pretty. It is, don't get me wrong, beautiful and an iconic NYC thing but... it's just standing there to be gazed upon. It's not a destination.

Also, you have redundancies - I'd do Empire State OR Top of the Rock, no need for both. I prefer the Empire State, but whatever. Same as the Today Show and GMA - unless this is a thing, I wouldn't plan on both. It's just standing around for hours until you get bored and wander off. It's kind of hellaciously boring.

NBC Studio is the same as the tour.

I dunno what Radio is but I'm guessing Radio City? Are you going to a show or taking the backstage tour? Honestly, might be more fun to do the MET Opera house tour, it's more grand stuff and a better house, imo, more history, better productions.

If you're going to B'way shows, you'll see Times Square, don't make a special trip.

The Sony thing is meh and small. It's like wander in and outish.

You're missing... stuff here. Also, I'd swap Macy's, which is just a zoo and a Macy's, for FAO Schwarz, the world's greatest toy store.

Central Park, absolutely! Zoo? No.

Is there a reason you've got Natural History as your museum? You don't even have the Planetarium... and the Met (ropolitan Museum of Art) is much better, though obviously different.

The MOMA is also good, with a good mix and lots of kid-friendly stuff.

You're missing - Cathedral of St. John the divine (better than St. Pat's)

Columbia University (campus is amazing to wander, if you're there on an every other Friday you can attend a kid-friendly astronomy lecture and get to use the observatory telescopes on the roof)

Sporting events?

The Library, which you've already got - worth it, it's amazing. The reading room must be seen.

Staten Island Ferry is fun and free.

See what's happening at BAM when you're here.

The Museum of the Moving Image.

Liberty Science Center is supposed to be cool if you want to go over there...

The food thing I'm not sure but there are plenty of Whole Foods, which have large selections of gluten-free products available.
 
I bet he would like to eat at Planet Hollywood and see the movie stuff there. Call before and see if they can make one of his foods.
 

Oh, it occurred to me, given he enjoys performance himself - you might look into like, a class he could take at Steps or B'way dance - those are two of the better-known dance studios here, that have classes in all manner of dance including theatre.

Also can visit On Stage dancewear, they sell all manner of shoes for all kinds of dance, plus tights, that sort of stuff. Professionals buy from them.

You might also try to get into the Costume Collection that tdf keeps. It's got TONS of stuff that shows no longer needed that they rent out. I bet a call could get you in to see the stuff and he might think that was cool?
 
Here is my opinion of the schedule. I tried to quote you and couldn't so don't know how it'll work out!

China town- this is a vibrant neighborhood to walk through
Federal hall national memorial- Not sure what this is or why you'd see it.
Federal reserve bank- This gets mixed reviews, sounds kinda boring http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti..._Bank_of_New_York-New_York_City_New_York.html
Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island- This is a favorite of ours. Make sure they book you through Statue Cruises so you can get off the ferry at both islands; ALL other companies just do a "drive by." We especially enjoyed the Ellis Island tour- we did that again on a 2nd trip but not the statue again!
Wall street- just a street
Brooklyn bridge- just a bridge
Ground Zero-this is a construction site surrounded by a wall; nothing to see
Tribute WTC Visitor Center-this is supposed to be pretty good
Museum of Jewish, memorial to the holocaust- yes yes yes

ADD the Tenement Museum to this, especially if he's going to see "Newsies"

TripAdvisor has some very good reviews on their site, including ranking each tour or exhibit. Before our first trip to NYC, I got the AAA guide book for the city. It has sections that do a really great job of explaining how the city is laid out so you always know where you are and a good explanation of the subway (which is easy to use now that it's all color-coded). The Unofficial Guide to NYC is also pretty good.
 
I live in Ontario Canada and our weather is pretty simular to NY. In October I would do jeans and hoodies and bring a jacket in case it rains. There are sometimes warm afternoons but even then we're talking jeans and T-shirts. Think January in Florida type of weather.

I'm not sure how the wish works but NYC has a citypass that includes the most popular attractions. Even if you just use it as a guide for the places that are considered must sees by most visitors

http://www.citypass.com/new-york?cr...v_source=rkg&gclid=CLS52uzc-LECFQNrKgodGC4A3w
 
I work in Midtown Manhattan. Worked downtown for years.

So I will agree with others that tell you to skip Wall Street. Unless you know someone to get you inside and on the floor, don't bother. And even then I believe you would have to be a geek like me to enjoy it. :rotfl:

Ground Zero is just a construction site now. They do have the memorial if you'd like to stop there.

Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, you can pre-purchase the tickets and go through their equivalent of a Fast Pass Lane. :thumbsup2 Make sure you are in the right lane though. Ask!! It was rather confusing. oops. I also saw that someone recommended skipping it. This is the Statue of Liberty. Not quite sure how a once in a Life Time trip to NYC is complete without a trip to the Statue.

I noticed that someone mentioned to skip the Central Park Zoo. My DD loves zoos and has been to all the big ones. But she really did enjoy the CP Zoo. It's small but the tie in with the Madagascar movie really excited her. And my DD is 12 also.

Do the tacky touristy things. Have your kids picture done by one of the sketch artists in the park. But don't pay full price. Negotiate it beforehand. My DH always asks and then says "No thanks" and starts walking away. Price always gets changed before he gets too far. ;)

I'll see if they have subway maps anymore that they hand out. If they do, I'll pick one up for you if you'd like. They used to hand them out for free but can't remember if they still do.

My DD loves the Museum of Natural History. The Hayden Planetarium is right there as well. Someone also mentioned the Met and the Moma but if your kids aren't really into art, you have such a short time period that I would contemplate skipping them.

And even though I'm a Jersey girl. Skip anything on the other side of the river. Don't bother with the Liberty Science Center. It's not that wonderful. There are much better science centers.

Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll see what I can do for you.

Also, check out the Disney websites for Newsies. I would call them and explain about your trip. Ask if there is anything special your son can do like going back stage after the show to meet the cast. This would save him from being jostled by the crowd at the stage door. Just a thought. Enjoy your planning.
 
Can I just add...

One of our very favorite things to do is ride the open air bus. We go on one of the last tours of the day, so we don't spend our days sitting in a bus in traffic (which happens with the hop-on, hop-off buses if you are using them for transportation... BAD plan). The bus starts out in Times Square and travels all around Manhattan. It takes you over the Manhattan Bridge into Brooklyn, where you can look back at the city. By this time it's dark, and all the lights are on in the city skyline. It's great! The tour guides are usually pretty good and keep up a running commentary. If it's cold you can sit inside, but we bring warm clothes and sit outside, up on top of the bus. You go through Times Square and then see all kinds of things... garment district and Parsons School of Design, Bryant Park, Flatiron Building, Chinatown, Macy's, Ground Zero, Manhattan Bridge, Brooklyn Bridge, Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, Radio City Music Hall, etc. It's fun and a good way to see many of the tourist sites in Midtown and Downtown Manhattan.

ANother fun thing to do is take the Water Taxi. It leaves from Pier 84 at W. 44th St. It's a hop-on, hop-off ride, so you can get off at some of the stopping points... Battery Park and Southstreet Seaport come to mind... but we just stay on the boat. It cruises along the Hudson from Pier 84 down around the southern tip of the island and back, with a loop to cruise close to the Statue of Liberty. It's fun to be out on the water and see the island's skyline. If you get off at Battery Park you can walk to the Holocaust Museum and 9/11 monument, I think. In October this might be weather-dependent, but we've enjoyed it.

We were not crazy about the Museum of Natural History. The Planetarium show was good but it was an additional ticket. We pretty much felt like this museum was like many Natural History museums we'd visited. However, we were VERY happy with the Metropolitan Museum of Art. This is a huge museum, and if you are going I think you should decide on which exhibits to view before you get there. We really enjoyed the Egyptian Tomb and exhibit, the ancient armor (suits of armor, horse armor, weapons... kinda cool), and the "period" rooms (you look into the rooms that are all set up with period pieces so you see what everyday life was like). MOMA was enjoyable, too, and I am not a big art fan, much less modern art, but I'd go back in a heartbeat.

Check out the Discovery Museum and see what's there. We saw the Harry Potter exhibit, which had all the original prop pieces from the movies. I also heard that the Pompeii exhibit at the DM was good, but both of these are gone now. You should check and see what's there, though; they do good displays even though many New Yorkers might dismiss them as "touristy." Well, I'm a tourist!
 
I don't know how much extra time you have. Your son might enjoy the atmosphere at Ellen's Stardust Diner which has singing waitstaff that hope to work on Broadway. I don't know the food allergy part of it.

If you are Jewish and the kids don't mind a museum that has parts for younger kids my kids loved the Jewish Children's Museum in Brooklyn. They recently opened a new floor which includes a holocaust exhibit. Some of the exhibits are interesting for all ages and the arts and craft part has some older kid/adult interest items.

If dancing is an interest we also enjoyed the Radio City Music Hall tour. We met a Rockette on the tour. Another place my kids enjoyed was the USS Intrepid. My kids are 8 and 12. My oldest has asked to go to the UN on a future NYC trip.

I hope you have a wonderful and enjoy everything you do.

Thanks for suggesting Ellens Stardust Diner, I found them online and it looks they have french fries. I'm going to make a call to them to see if they can give me the ingredients.

We are not Jewish, but my 14 year spent about 4 weeks last year learning about the Holocaust and Anne Frank at school. She really wants to learn more and when I saw they have museums in NYC I thought this was perfect. So do you suggest the Jewish Children's Museum or Museum of Jewish, memorial to the holocaust?

I was debating on the Radio City tour, I'll have to look into it.

Thanks
 
It sounds like a dream come true for him--I'm so glad. Newsies is a great deal of fun--very active and full of energy. I'm sure he'll have a great time.

Some of the things you've listed will be more fun than others for a boy of his age. Wall Street, for example, isn't particularly impressive to look at, and it certainly isn't the most vibrant or colorful thing to see.

Some of the best things to do in New York, though, are great for kids of his age. The Natural History Museum is one of my absolute favorite places in the whole city. The top of the Empire State Building is great for views and worth the trip. The Staten Island Ferry will take you all around the harbor, and it's free! (The Statue of Liberty is itself a bit of a letdown inside, but you can see it up close and personal on the ferry.)

Walking around the neighborhoods can be tons of fun. Chinatown can be fantastic and vibrant; and I remember finding Washington Square to be totally hip and grown up.

Central Park is always a winner. Oct is a bit between seasons (too early for ice skating, too late for lazing about with a picnic), but you can always walk around, see the sights, and enjoy the zoo. Another great recent park addition is the New York High Line, that runs down the West Side in midtown.

In terms of other museums, the Children's Museum of Art can be cool (art by and for kids), though it may skew a little young in places. The Tenement Museum is fascinating, especially if he's going to go see Newsies (tenements are where Davy's family would have stayed in the original movie). The Metropolitan Museum of Art can feel pretty grown up, but the Temple of Dendur (a full Egyptian temple in a giant glass-windowed room) is super cool. Finally, the New York Historical Society just opened a giant kids' museum, that lets kids explore the history of New York.

As for transport, don't worry! The subways are pretty straightforward--just get a sense of where you're going before you get on. (Maps aren't great in the station, though they're in every subway car.) The subway stations are grosser than the subway cars themselves--just think of it as part of the charm of New York.

And as for taxis, they're relatively cheap and really easy to navigate. Don't be afraid to just stand on the corner and stick your hand out--when you get in, tell them where you're going, and it really shouldn't be a problem. If you're not going very far, it's usually not much more expensive with three people than taking the subway. (Though, for day to day stuff, you should def do the subway when you can.)

Finally, NYC is the place to be if you have food restrictions--there's a restaurant for everything! Try this: http://www.urbanspoon.com/gt/3/100/1/Manhattan-Gluten-Free-Friendly-New-York-Restaurants . You can sort by neighborhood and by cuisine.

I hope your son has just the best time!

Thank you for taking time to reply to me. I never heard of The Tenement Museum, found them online and it looks just perfect for us. Now I'm trying to figure out which tour to go on. Nathaniel is really not into art but I think he would love the Egyptian area of the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Thanks for telling me about Urban Spoon, I'll have to make some calls to see if they have anything safe for my son.
 
Thank you so much Jackie for your kind words.

Was the subway confusing? I have a fear we are going to get off the wrong stop. :)

I don't know if any else has mentioned this, but if you have a smart phone there are NYC Subway apps. We used them last summer when we took our kids and they were perfect. I can't remember which exact ones we used, but you can download them now and play around with them. They are even great for putting an address in, and they will find the closest subway entrance to your current location and tell you which trains to take to get to the address. I had first said NO SUBWAYS with our kids (which is crazy) but the subways ended up being one of their favorite attractions, and this was during the record breaking heat wave of 104 last summer!
 
Ok first, every station has maps posted but you don't buy a paper subway map to carry around, just ask at any booth in the station, they'll hand you one.

Second, as to the lists... I'm not sure why some of these things are on your lists, like if you have particular attachments. I'm also not sure what some are and I was born on this island, heh.

What is the Federal Hall National Memorial??

Wall Street is just a street, like literally. You'll see it if you're down there - as you seem to have an interest in financial things, you'd probably want to add the bull, he's famous.

"Ground Zero" isn't really a thing. There's the 9-11 memorial but the site itself is a construction site. You can go look at it but it's construction.

Statue of Liberty I'd skip unless you're into it.

What you're missing downtown is the TENEMENT MUSEUM! It's awesome and very NY history, it's not something you'll see anyplace else.

Your midtown list also has some confusing stuff. The Chrysler bldg is just there. It's not like the Empire State where you can go up, it's just pretty. It is, don't get me wrong, beautiful and an iconic NYC thing but... it's just standing there to be gazed upon. It's not a destination.

Also, you have redundancies - I'd do Empire State OR Top of the Rock, no need for both. I prefer the Empire State, but whatever. Same as the Today Show and GMA - unless this is a thing, I wouldn't plan on both. It's just standing around for hours until you get bored and wander off. It's kind of hellaciously boring.

NBC Studio is the same as the tour.

I dunno what Radio is but I'm guessing Radio City? Are you going to a show or taking the backstage tour? Honestly, might be more fun to do the MET Opera house tour, it's more grand stuff and a better house, imo, more history, better productions.

If you're going to B'way shows, you'll see Times Square, don't make a special trip.

The Sony thing is meh and small. It's like wander in and outish.

You're missing... stuff here. Also, I'd swap Macy's, which is just a zoo and a Macy's, for FAO Schwarz, the world's greatest toy store.

Central Park, absolutely! Zoo? No.

Is there a reason you've got Natural History as your museum? You don't even have the Planetarium... and the Met (ropolitan Museum of Art) is much better, though obviously different.

The MOMA is also good, with a good mix and lots of kid-friendly stuff.

You're missing - Cathedral of St. John the divine (better than St. Pat's)

Columbia University (campus is amazing to wander, if you're there on an every other Friday you can attend a kid-friendly astronomy lecture and get to use the observatory telescopes on the roof)

Sporting events?

The Library, which you've already got - worth it, it's amazing. The reading room must be seen.

Staten Island Ferry is fun and free.

See what's happening at BAM when you're here.

The Museum of the Moving Image.

Liberty Science Center is supposed to be cool if you want to go over there...

The food thing I'm not sure but there are plenty of Whole Foods, which have large selections of gluten-free products available.

The lists were mostly made by Nathaniel searching the internet for things to do in NYC. This is the Federal Hall National museum website. He thought it looked interesting. Nathaniel loves to learn. http://www.nps.gov/feha/index.htm

TENEMENT MUSEUM is now on our list, thanks. Can you suggest which tour to take? Nate wont be 12 until December so looks like we can only do the younger kids tours.

I heard you can go into the Chrysler bldg and its amazing inside?

We are staying on Times Square so we will walk around there the night be get there and then the day we leave!

I wasn't sure which church was the best one to visit. Thank you for the info, I looked into it and they do tours! The 12 and above tour looks the best so I'm going to call and see if they will let us do it.

As for sporting events, I couldn't find anything but the Jets while we are there. He really wanted to see the Yankee's play but they are done before we are there.

We love Whole foods, I'll have to make a stop there the first day.

Thanks again for all the info
 
Oh, it occurred to me, given he enjoys performance himself - you might look into like, a class he could take at Steps or B'way dance - those are two of the better-known dance studios here, that have classes in all manner of dance including theatre.

Also can visit On Stage dancewear, they sell all manner of shoes for all kinds of dance, plus tights, that sort of stuff. Professionals buy from them.

You might also try to get into the Costume Collection that tdf keeps. It's got TONS of stuff that shows no longer needed that they rent out. I bet a call could get you in to see the stuff and he might think that was cool?

Thank You, Thank you!! I looked up both dance studios and the B'way dance is not very far from our hotel. I'm going to see if maybe Nathaniel can take a tap class while there!!

I think it would be neat for Nathaniel to try on some costumes from past shows. I'm also going to contact them!!
 
Here is my opinion of the schedule. I tried to quote you and couldn't so don't know how it'll work out!

China town- this is a vibrant neighborhood to walk through
Federal hall national memorial- Not sure what this is or why you'd see it.
Federal reserve bank- This gets mixed reviews, sounds kinda boring http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti..._Bank_of_New_York-New_York_City_New_York.html
Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island- This is a favorite of ours. Make sure they book you through Statue Cruises so you can get off the ferry at both islands; ALL other companies just do a "drive by." We especially enjoyed the Ellis Island tour- we did that again on a 2nd trip but not the statue again!
Wall street- just a street
Brooklyn bridge- just a bridge
Ground Zero-this is a construction site surrounded by a wall; nothing to see
Tribute WTC Visitor Center-this is supposed to be pretty good
Museum of Jewish, memorial to the holocaust- yes yes yes

ADD the Tenement Museum to this, especially if he's going to see "Newsies"

TripAdvisor has some very good reviews on their site, including ranking each tour or exhibit. Before our first trip to NYC, I got the AAA guide book for the city. It has sections that do a really great job of explaining how the city is laid out so you always know where you are and a good explanation of the subway (which is easy to use now that it's all color-coded). The Unofficial Guide to NYC is also pretty good.

Thank you-- I added Tenement Museum-- Which tour is best? I'm a AAA member so I'll go down and get a guide book!! I'm glad to hear the Museum of Jewish, memorial to the holocaust is good, this is on my daughters list!
 
I work in Midtown Manhattan. Worked downtown for years.

So I will agree with others that tell you to skip Wall Street. Unless you know someone to get you inside and on the floor, don't bother. And even then I believe you would have to be a geek like me to enjoy it. :rotfl:

Ground Zero is just a construction site now. They do have the memorial if you'd like to stop there.

Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, you can pre-purchase the tickets and go through their equivalent of a Fast Pass Lane. :thumbsup2 Make sure you are in the right lane though. Ask!! It was rather confusing. oops. I also saw that someone recommended skipping it. This is the Statue of Liberty. Not quite sure how a once in a Life Time trip to NYC is complete without a trip to the Statue.

I noticed that someone mentioned to skip the Central Park Zoo. My DD loves zoos and has been to all the big ones. But she really did enjoy the CP Zoo. It's small but the tie in with the Madagascar movie really excited her. And my DD is 12 also.

Do the tacky touristy things. Have your kids picture done by one of the sketch artists in the park. But don't pay full price. Negotiate it beforehand. My DH always asks and then says "No thanks" and starts walking away. Price always gets changed before he gets too far. ;)

I'll see if they have subway maps anymore that they hand out. If they do, I'll pick one up for you if you'd like. They used to hand them out for free but can't remember if they still do.

My DD loves the Museum of Natural History. The Hayden Planetarium is right there as well. Someone also mentioned the Met and the Moma but if your kids aren't really into art, you have such a short time period that I would contemplate skipping them.

And even though I'm a Jersey girl. Skip anything on the other side of the river. Don't bother with the Liberty Science Center. It's not that wonderful. There are much better science centers.

Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll see what I can do for you.

Also, check out the Disney websites for Newsies. I would call them and explain about your trip. Ask if there is anything special your son can do like going back stage after the show to meet the cast. This would save him from being jostled by the crowd at the stage door. Just a thought. Enjoy your planning.

Thanks for all your help.. For the Statue of Liberty I'm really debating to just going by on the ferry or getting off. I heard its under construction so you cant go it.

I think the Central Park zoo is a must for us, even if we don't spend much time there we can say be have been there. We have a pretty good zoo here so not really going for the animals. How much time do you think it will take here?

Thanks for the tip on the sketch artist, I would have never thought about trying to negotiate the price.

The Dream Factory is working directly with Newsies to make that part of our trip very special!! They wont even give me all the details since they want the whole family surprised!!
 
Can I just add...

One of our very favorite things to do is ride the open air bus. We go on one of the last tours of the day, so we don't spend our days sitting in a bus in traffic (which happens with the hop-on, hop-off buses if you are using them for transportation... BAD plan). The bus starts out in Times Square and travels all around Manhattan. It takes you over the Manhattan Bridge into Brooklyn, where you can look back at the city. By this time it's dark, and all the lights are on in the city skyline. It's great! The tour guides are usually pretty good and keep up a running commentary. If it's cold you can sit inside, but we bring warm clothes and sit outside, up on top of the bus. You go through Times Square and then see all kinds of things... garment district and Parsons School of Design, Bryant Park, Flatiron Building, Chinatown, Macy's, Ground Zero, Manhattan Bridge, Brooklyn Bridge, Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, Radio City Music Hall, etc. It's fun and a good way to see many of the tourist sites in Midtown and Downtown Manhattan.

ANother fun thing to do is take the Water Taxi. It leaves from Pier 84 at W. 44th St. It's a hop-on, hop-off ride, so you can get off at some of the stopping points... Battery Park and Southstreet Seaport come to mind... but we just stay on the boat. It cruises along the Hudson from Pier 84 down around the southern tip of the island and back, with a loop to cruise close to the Statue of Liberty. It's fun to be out on the water and see the island's skyline. If you get off at Battery Park you can walk to the Holocaust Museum and 9/11 monument, I think. In October this might be weather-dependent, but we've enjoyed it.

We were not crazy about the Museum of Natural History. The Planetarium show was good but it was an additional ticket. We pretty much felt like this museum was like many Natural History museums we'd visited. However, we were VERY happy with the Metropolitan Museum of Art. This is a huge museum, and if you are going I think you should decide on which exhibits to view before you get there. We really enjoyed the Egyptian Tomb and exhibit, the ancient armor (suits of armor, horse armor, weapons... kinda cool), and the "period" rooms (you look into the rooms that are all set up with period pieces so you see what everyday life was like). MOMA was enjoyable, too, and I am not a big art fan, much less modern art, but I'd go back in a heartbeat.

Check out the Discovery Museum and see what's there. We saw the Harry Potter exhibit, which had all the original prop pieces from the movies. I also heard that the Pompeii exhibit at the DM was good, but both of these are gone now. You should check and see what's there, though; they do good displays even though many New Yorkers might dismiss them as "touristy." Well, I'm a tourist!

I think I'm putting the open air tour on our list, that would be a great way to see all the site and do it at night. I didn't really want to be out at night, but this is a good way to do it. We are staying on Times Square so this would work great. Is there a certain company to use?

So many good museums and not a lot of time. I think I'll really have to do some looking into each one. I think Museum of Natural History is top on Nathaniel's list since that is the museum you think about when you talk about NYC. Since this is his Wish trip, we have to go with the flow :-) Thanks
 
I don't know if any else has mentioned this, but if you have a smart phone there are NYC Subway apps. We used them last summer when we took our kids and they were perfect. I can't remember which exact ones we used, but you can download them now and play around with them. They are even great for putting an address in, and they will find the closest subway entrance to your current location and tell you which trains to take to get to the address. I had first said NO SUBWAYS with our kids (which is crazy) but the subways ended up being one of their favorite attractions, and this was during the record breaking heat wave of 104 last summer!

Thank you, I have an Iphone so I'm going to look for some apps!
 
The lists were mostly made by Nathaniel searching the internet for things to do in NYC. This is the Federal Hall National museum website. He thought it looked interesting. Nathaniel loves to learn. http://www.nps.gov/feha/index.htm

TENEMENT MUSEUM is now on our list, thanks. Can you suggest which tour to take? Nate wont be 12 until December so looks like we can only do the younger kids tours.

I heard you can go into the Chrysler bldg and its amazing inside?

We are staying on Times Square so we will walk around there the night be get there and then the day we leave!

I wasn't sure which church was the best one to visit. Thank you for the info, I looked into it and they do tours! The 12 and above tour looks the best so I'm going to call and see if they will let us do it.

As for sporting events, I couldn't find anything but the Jets while we are there. He really wanted to see the Yankee's play but they are done before we are there.

We love Whole foods, I'll have to make a stop there the first day.

Thanks again for all the info

Oh oh oh Federal Hall, duh, heh. The whole memorial thing threw me - yes, there's an exhibit and stuff there and if you like history. I'm surprised he didn't add Grant's Tomb (he's there, really!).

I'm pretty sure you can do whatever tour appeals at the Tenement Museum. I don't think they like, ask for birth certificates or anything - just say he's 12 (this year) if they ask. I mean you can call and ask too but it's mostly just that the 12+ tours are longer and have discussion and more historical themes and all that younger kids may have a hard time following or not get engaged in and be bored by and possibly disruptive (just because if you're dragging the 6-year-old around for two hours while people talk about treatment of immigrants then and now, they can get whiny and antsy).

If he's mature enough to be interested in Federal Hall, I presume he'd be fine with any tour there.

Same as St. John I'd wager but you can call there too. I'd say he's 12 this year, just a few weeks after the trip or whatever (true) and see what they say but I don't think they ask for proof or anything either at all. If you're obviously lying they might question you but he's old enough to speak for himself articuately so it's not like you're trying to get an 8-year-old to pass, you know?

If you go there, be sure to check out the gardens outside. There be peacocks! :) It's also right by (like a 2-minute walk) Columbia U, which is really an amazing campus. You walk in off Broadway and you're in an entirely different world.

There's also a Five Guys right by there, on B'way and I think...111th (Columbia is on B'way and 116, the Cathedral is like one block over from B'way and on 112 or so. I think Five Guys fries are gluten free and fresh from actual potatoes - they only fry fries in their fryers I *think.* Check their website if you're not familiar. They're AMAZING fries, heh.

As for the Chrysler Bldg. I don't think you can go in? I mean you can go in the lobby, and yes, it's pretty, the elevator thingys and all are deco and there's a mural deal but that's it. I've never heard of a tour or being able to go in the spire or anything.

The Whole Foods closest to where you're staying will be the one in the Time Warner thing at Columbus Circle. It's a NY experience, the place is like Calcutta, heh.

I mean it's fine, it's a Whole Foods, it's in a very snazzy shopping center thing (with the best restaurant in the City in it), but it gets crowds like no Whole Foods you've seen. The lines can be 75 people long, easy, but it moves quickly - they have (literally, they're numbered) 40 registers.

Big selection though, lots of everything. I also tend to see a lot of celebrities in that WF, if that's a thing for you. Recently Ronnie Wood, Howie Mandel and someone else I can't recall when I happened to be in there (at different times).

As for sports, there's also the Rangers.

You may also overlap with Comic Con, if he'd be into that. It's a HUGE event.

I'd definitely call about the dance class and the Costume Collection - taking a class in NY would be really cool I'd think and they'll be really nice I'm sure.

Oh, for stuff going on when you're here - check Time Out NY and NY Mag. They''re both online and both have extensive calendars of everything going on, especially stuff you may not think of, like off-B'way shows, little dance companies, exhibits, galleries, whatever. He can peruse to see if anything wacky catches his eye. There are a lot of free concerts - street fairs - lots of stuff.

There's still Rocky Horror that shows at the Waverly downtown, and movie houses that show classic stuff and fun stuff and etc. Check Time Out.

We just had Clock here, it's an art installation that's a movie that runs 24 hours and shows clips from films that show a clock every minute. So like, a clip where someone looks at their watch at 8:02, then different scenes, with people saying stuff like 'it's 8 o'clock already?!' then a clip panning a clock that says 8:03 - all timed to the actual time. It was silly and odd and just a free thing, you could walk up (and wait on line to get in if it was crowded) and go sit in the theatre and watch til you got bored. There are a lot of things like that.

Oh - someone mentioned the Planetarium having an extra fee - that and Natural History, like the Met Museum (and Cloisters, which is awesome too btw), are donation museums.

They have suggested admission prices, but will let you in for whatever you can give. The suggested donations are like $15 or $20, but if you hand them $5 or $2 or whatever and say 'one please' they will hand you a button showing you paid without comment or question.

The exception is tickets to the movies in the Planetarium and the nature IMAX movies (which are awesome) at Natural History. Those have ticket prices like any movie. Also the MOMA has an admission price, not a suggested donation, that you must pay to get in, though there are free admission evenings every week.
 
Oh oh oh Federal Hall, duh, heh. The whole memorial thing threw me - yes, there's an exhibit and stuff there and if you like history. I'm surprised he didn't add Grant's Tomb (he's there, really!).

I'm pretty sure you can do whatever tour appeals at the Tenement Museum. I don't think they like, ask for birth certificates or anything - just say he's 12 (this year) if they ask. I mean you can call and ask too but it's mostly just that the 12+ tours are longer and have discussion and more historical themes and all that younger kids may have a hard time following or not get engaged in and be bored by and possibly disruptive (just because if you're dragging the 6-year-old around for two hours while people talk about treatment of immigrants then and now, they can get whiny and antsy).

If he's mature enough to be interested in Federal Hall, I presume he'd be fine with any tour there.

Same as St. John I'd wager but you can call there too. I'd say he's 12 this year, just a few weeks after the trip or whatever (true) and see what they say but I don't think they ask for proof or anything either at all. If you're obviously lying they might question you but he's old enough to speak for himself articuately so it's not like you're trying to get an 8-year-old to pass, you know?

If you go there, be sure to check out the gardens outside. There be peacocks! :) It's also right by (like a 2-minute walk) Columbia U, which is really an amazing campus. You walk in off Broadway and you're in an entirely different world.

There's also a Five Guys right by there, on B'way and I think...111th (Columbia is on B'way and 116, the Cathedral is like one block over from B'way and on 112 or so. I think Five Guys fries are gluten free and fresh from actual potatoes - they only fry fries in their fryers I *think.* Check their website if you're not familiar. They're AMAZING fries, heh.

As for the Chrysler Bldg. I don't think you can go in? I mean you can go in the lobby, and yes, it's pretty, the elevator thingys and all are deco and there's a mural deal but that's it. I've never heard of a tour or being able to go in the spire or anything.

The Whole Foods closest to where you're staying will be the one in the Time Warner thing at Columbus Circle. It's a NY experience, the place is like Calcutta, heh.

I mean it's fine, it's a Whole Foods, it's in a very snazzy shopping center thing (with the best restaurant in the City in it), but it gets crowds like no Whole Foods you've seen. The lines can be 75 people long, easy, but it moves quickly - they have (literally, they're numbered) 40 registers.

Big selection though, lots of everything. I also tend to see a lot of celebrities in that WF, if that's a thing for you. Recently Ronnie Wood, Howie Mandel and someone else I can't recall when I happened to be in there (at different times).

As for sports, there's also the Rangers.

You may also overlap with Comic Con, if he'd be into that. It's a HUGE event.

I'd definitely call about the dance class and the Costume Collection - taking a class in NY would be really cool I'd think and they'll be really nice I'm sure.

Oh, for stuff going on when you're here - check Time Out NY and NY Mag. They''re both online and both have extensive calendars of everything going on, especially stuff you may not think of, like off-B'way shows, little dance companies, exhibits, galleries, whatever. He can peruse to see if anything wacky catches his eye. There are a lot of free concerts - street fairs - lots of stuff.

There's still Rocky Horror that shows at the Waverly downtown, and movie houses that show classic stuff and fun stuff and etc. Check Time Out.

We just had Clock here, it's an art installation that's a movie that runs 24 hours and shows clips from films that show a clock every minute. So like, a clip where someone looks at their watch at 8:02, then different scenes, with people saying stuff like 'it's 8 o'clock already?!' then a clip panning a clock that says 8:03 - all timed to the actual time. It was silly and odd and just a free thing, you could walk up (and wait on line to get in if it was crowded) and go sit in the theatre and watch til you got bored. There are a lot of things like that.

Oh - someone mentioned the Planetarium having an extra fee - that and Natural History, like the Met Museum (and Cloisters, which is awesome too btw), are donation museums.

They have suggested admission prices, but will let you in for whatever you can give. The suggested donations are like $15 or $20, but if you hand them $5 or $2 or whatever and say 'one please' they will hand you a button showing you paid without comment or question.

The exception is tickets to the movies in the Planetarium and the nature IMAX movies (which are awesome) at Natural History. Those have ticket prices like any movie. Also the MOMA has an admission price, not a suggested donation, that you must pay to get in, though there are free admission evenings every week.

I just added grants tomb and Columbia U to my look at list.

Thanks for telling me that Five Guys is around there. I just looked them up and it looks like there is about 9 of them around nyc. Their fries are safe for him. I can't tell you how excited about this I am. Around here he can only eat Chick-fil-A, Five guys, and Wendy's fries. Looks like we will be eating Five guys and Wendy's the whole time!

I plan on packing almost a whole suitcase with his safe foods but might pop into WF to get some rice milk and a few things. Sounds like a neat place to visit.

The suggested admission prices sounds good to me. I'm not really sure how much the Dream Factory is going to give us for spending money.

We only have 6 full days and 2 half days. I think 1 day will just be spent with the Newsies and seeing the show. I know we cant fit everything in and I'm sure he is going to get tired so not sure how full our days can get. I'm going to sit down with him over the next few days and have him pick his top choices. I have to remember this is his wish, so we need to do what he wants to do :).

Thanks again for all your help!
 





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