My Ph.D. Program

[bcla]

Even if you decide not to return to the program, you may be able to salvage a neutral or positive parting of the ways, which will serve you better in the future, whether you attempt to continue academic studies elsewhere or in the non-academic world. "Have you ever been dismissed" is not a question you want to have to answer "yes" to.

I have an "uncle" (I use that term loosely as he isn't a blood relative) who dropped out of a Ph.D program, although I believe he got his masters while there. He said that his faculty advisor didn't like him. He ended up getting a job where he was pretty successful for a few years. He eventually returned because a different faculty advisor was interested. After his Ph.D he ended up working at the same company for over 30 years before retiring.

 

[Rockbro]

come on dude. I thought you wanted to remain anonymous. and now you post your cv? all we really want to know is did you drive halfway across the country to pick up your wife yesterday, like you told us you were going to? I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say the whole community board is on pins and needles wondering.

I didn't. She cancelled. I posted my CV to prove that I am not making this up. Additionally, remaining anonymous doesn't matter anymore, as I am no longer a student.

I did that to legitimize myself and my story.

 

[UberClaire]

PhD programs are pretty stringently regulated -- I've never seen a student asked to leave without just cause (and typically many, many meetings/interventions prior to dismissal). I hope you get clarification on why you were dismissed, especially if you are hoping to join a different program.

 

[Kestryl]

I found the Graduate Dismissal Form from USF- they require the reason(s) for dismissals to be sent to the student. I’ve never heard of a legitimate school that would dismiss anyone without a reason. (I have a PhD and am tied into the academic world.)

It’s pretty imperative that you find out the reason for dismissal if you plan on going back into academia at any point. If you give no reason, they’ll assume the worst.

Common dismissal reasons are missing grade/exam benchmarks and academic dishonesty (ex plagiarism). I’ve seen a few severe HR violations (like getting involved with an undergraduate student as a TA...). I’ve also seen lack of funding push grad students out, though that’s not really a dismissal on its own.

 

[VandVsmama]

I didn't. She cancelled. I posted my CV to prove that I am not making this up. Additionally, remaining anonymous doesn't matter anymore, as I am no longer a student.

I did that to legitimize myself and my story.

You really really should consider taking down your resume/CV. You know why? Because you've posted on these boards about a lot of your personal problems...big personal issues that ANY employer will now be able to look up with a quick Google search on your name and see. They'll find it because you put your real name on here...and then they'll look up all of the posts on DIS Boards posted by your user name. Then they'll see you posting about how your wife left you, about your PTSD issues, about your addiction issues, and how you talked about relapsing a few times. And like it or not, but those things WILL put you out of the running for a lot of jobs that you might be looking for.

THAT is why you shouldn't disclose those personal issues to potential employers.

Putting your resume on here is REALLY DUMB. Of course, you are not a dumb person. But choosing to do that IS a dumb decision.

You need to remove it.

 

[nw6675]

Rockbro, this thread is a train wreck that everyone can't stop watching. From someone in recovery, do yourself a favor and delete your personal info and CV and don't rely on these boards for help, validation, etc. Check in with your true support system (meeting, sponsor, etc,) because this isn't it and will just make things worse. Saying this as an anonymous internet friend.

 

[FigmentSpark]

My DS is just starting in a Criminology course. He doesn't know what he wants to be, but policing is an option. I'm hoping he'll veer off into law, mind you, but that's a mom's prerogative to hope for.

I'm also assuming he won't need a phd for a job, although, I've been told that even police forces highly encourage a lot of higher education, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Do you mind my asking what are some of the career areas, beyond police work, that are open to a person with that type of degree?

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Ummmmmmmmmm, yikes. I am sorry I said anything about your age which lead to the eventual revelation of much more information than you probably intended, or worse, some people will assume you are somebody specific.

You might want to delete all that.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

The OP has every right to want to protect his/her identity and is under no obligation to give his or her first name, age, or any other info like that.

Honestly the whole "you're 30" thing wasn't trying to dig into info. I had no idea that wasn't true. OP should have listened to @VandVsmama

 

[NFLDERS]

Hey,

At 10:12 AM today, I received an email from my department chair that the department has voted to dismiss me from the program. I was given no rhyme or reason, but I suspect it is because my views were different from theirs. Now, middle-aged, I'm stuck with starting over with who-knows-what-else. The reason I am posting here is because I need to vent and I can't bear to do it to my family this close to Thanksgiving.

In my early life following our Maternity leave programme a decision was made against my claim because we had moved. I requested an Appeal, long story short I was reinstated with the rules governing our move. Worth a try, an Appeal I mean?

 

[unrequited23]

My DS is just starting in a Criminology course. He doesn't know what he wants to be, but policing is an option. I'm hoping he'll veer off into law, mind you, but that's a mom's prerogative to hope for.

I'm also assuming he won't need a phd for a job, although, I've been told that even police forces highly encourage a lot of higher education, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Do you mind my asking what are some of the career areas, beyond police work, that are open to a person with that type of degree?

Education requirements for policing vary from city to city. From my limited experience, (my SIL is in her 4th yr as a PO) it is easier to be hired and advance in a large metro area that has a larger police force. Cities are actively recruiting to fill police academy classes and it takes less time to be promoted to detective. My SIL lived at police academy for 6 months, had 3 months training supervised by an officer, passed her test and was sworn in. All in, including the application process, it took a year for a complete and total career change.

 

[VandVsmama]

My DH worked for a guy once who said that he also goes onto Twitter & Facebook to look up every job applicant who they're going to interview...and if they have a bunch of public stuff on their profile, they opt NOT to interview the person.

So in addition to deleting your CV here on this thread, you should also consider kind of locking down your social media accounts. For example, on Facebook, you can view your page from a Public view in order to see what a non-friend would be able to see.

 

[NFLDERS]

This made me smile. My friend Aisling's brother's given name is Seanan and he goes by Matt. And for the first year I knew her she had me convinced that in Ireland it was common to shorten Seanan to Matt. And I just ate it, like ... why would I doubt it, they call stuff weird things in Ireland sometimes right?

Ten years or so layer I'm introduced someone named Seanan and I asked him if he goes by Sean or Matt. <crickets> After an uncomfortably long pause I just asked it, "They don't really shorten Seanan to Matt in Ireland ... do they?" ... "No ... we don't."

Turns out, my friend's brother's middle name is ... well you know.

I've been burning with that shame for years now and it's funny to see those names together all of a sudden.

Sorry... Random story break over.

Shorter name explanation here,

My younger brother's name is not Bud or Buddy, but because my dad called him that an error was made in the school registration.

My name is not Jane, but I dis..gress that is the name I answer to here.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

I’ve read all of the OP’s personal threads from the past few months. I’m going to call a spade a spade here. OP, I think you need to seek the help of a mental health professional. Your posts are very erratic, indicating either your addiction is out of control or you are suffering from a mental illness. I’m not judging you for either of those things, just saying get help. I don’t think it is a coincidence that you have admitted to struggling with addiction and then your wife leaves and you got dismissed from your PhD program. Get help. You are young enough to change the trajectory of your life and be happy.

 

[littlejimmy]

Rockbro, this thread is a train wreck that everyone can't stop watching. From someone in recovery, do yourself a favor and delete your personal info and CV and don't rely on these boards for help, validation, etc. Check in with your true support system (meeting, sponsor, etc,) because this isn't it and will just make things worse. Saying this as an anonymous internet friend.

I totally disagree about this thread being a train wreck. I am going on record as saying this is the sanest thread that dude has ever started.

 

[Makmak]

I don’t think you should try to get back into a program that dismissed you because they’ll just make your life hell. Universities are very political and graduate students are not always aware of everything that goes on “behind the scenes” between faculty. They’ll be able to fail you in comps or your committee would just derail your dissertation. You are generally able to transfer a few classes to a new program. I had to do this when I needed to leave my out of state program to return home and take care of my mother who became sick with cancer. I completed my degree at a different university.
edited because autocorrect on my phone is dumb

 

[nw6675]

I totally disagree about this thread being a train wreck. I am going on record as saying this is the sanest thread that dude has ever started.

Point taken

 

[NFLDERS]

I totally disagree about this thread being a train wreck. I am going on record as saying this is the sanest thread that dude has ever started.

OK, so I got taken in... sigh. Maybe, any advice given here will help someone else.

 

[Kitty 34]

OK, so I got taken in... sigh. Maybe, any advice given here will help someone else.

You're fine, Jane......I was arguing or for better words "discussing" on a PP that his age didn't match the year of his HS graduation until I found out he has had a couple of different ages since he has joined the DIS.

 

[Hikergirl]

DId the DIS just turn into linkedin?