My horrible Biergarten table mates experience

[nliedel]

She allows herself to be treated like that because he has treated her like that and has convinced her that she deserves to be treated like that. She 100% believes that she is in the wrong.

The parents allow it because the child learned it somewhere and my bet is that it was at home. The son is now beginning to teach his baby that treating his mother and someday his wife like that is the norm. It's a horrific situation and the wife probably feels she cannot get out at all.

 

[Micca]

As soon as we were seated the young man threw a fit not wanting us there.


This is when I would have left. Sorry you had such a bad experience.

 

[henrylovespooh]

My best friend is a professional organizer here in NJ, and I would bet this woman was her client. She told us stories about a young couple she did work for, how the husband talked about his wife like she was stupid and fat, and then she met the woman and she is beautful, and smart although terrified of her husband. She thankfully only had to work at the house one day when only the woman and her baby were home.

Congrats to your DH for speaking up. I would have told the guy he was small for treating his wife that way in front of his own family, in a way that would embarrass the parents as well for just sitting there.

Unbelieveable.

 

[luvmarypoppins]

Wow, sorry to hear about your experience. I feel bad for that poor wife too. It took an almost near death experience at the hands of her ex for a friend of ours to finally leave with the kids and get to a shelter.
We are also going to Biergarten in Dec. We are rather quiet and our 3 teen ds can be a bit rowdy at times. I am wondering who we will end up with too.
DH and I did the luau once and the one honeymoon couple by us were mad to be sitting with other and generally ignored everyone and the lady next to me wouldnt stop yaking. I didnt mind but it was my dh and I time alone and it was just shot down the tubes. Hope your next experience turns out better.

 

[LeesyUD]

Oh! Okay, well that would be different. I hope you're right about that.

Well, let's not go too far, there. It isn't restaurant management's place to eject a guest -- that's security's job (or their job to call Orange County Police, if they don't feel that they can eject the guest without being injured). I wouldn't want anyone not sworn to serve and protect to risk messing around with "tossing" anyone.

Actually it is utimately management's job because if there was a situation like that then management should have called security if they could not do anything about it...and I have a hard time believing that they could not find one table for this poor family to sit at...it would have only pushed them 1 table behind. Of course I understand them not wanting to give into the jerk who was whining, but that it is just a horrible situation! I don't see any pheasable excuse why management didn't do anything.

 

[bicker]

Sorry, we'll just have to agree to disagree. IMHO, once management calls security, their responsibility to deal with the cretin is over.

 

[robinb]

That pretty much ruined the rest of my day. I couldn't stop thinking of this about that young wife. Why wouldn't his parents tell their own son to shut up? Why would they allow him to theaten his wife like that in public?

Because they raised him to be the selfish brute that he is. I feel sorry for the wife and baby.

 

[Tinkbell]

How many people can they actually seat at a table there? I've wanted to eat there for years, but have always been apprehensive about the seating. I would love to take my mom there this summer. We are nice people and would make great table mates, but I'm afraid we'd get seated with folks like you did, or some other duds.

 

[IwannaseeMickey]

We had 8 at our table...had very nice table mates, really enjoyed them. We had 2 young children, and they had 2 teens, very nice family.

 

[kathyseb]

I am confused as the last three times we have eaten thene, they tell us up front that we will be seated with strangers and go on to ask if that is OK. Wonder if they did not tell the creep that when they walked in.

Still does not excuse his behavior.

We have eaten there many times and have always had nice table mates.

 

[Dare2Wish]

My family of 3 has eaten here twice. The first time was delightful. We were seated with 2 elderly couples. They were so sweet to DD, who was dancing around the table to the music. The second time, we were seated with a family of 4, who never made eye contact with us. It was obvious that they were uncomfortable with the seating. Some people are just not very social.

 

[Meezers]

I guess I am just plain downright mean.

This situation would have made my DM very uncomfortable....therefore a time and place would have been made to meet her and she would have left. Then my brother and I would have proceeded to make this young man's life a living pain in the butt....nothing obvious....but we sure as heck would not have let his behavior ruin our dinner! And gone out of our way to ruin his. Not Disney behavior I know...but sometimes Karma just comes at you!

 

[Wendy1953]

What an unfortunate dinner....it's amazing that some people think that it's normal for their spouse to act in such an irrational way...and to impose that on others is even more amazing to me. What amazes me most is that your husband, despite your anxiety, stayed on to eat his meal without you.....please explain why? My husband not only would have insisted on management getting involved, but would have escorted me from that unpleasant situation. I also can't believe someone is commenting on the childs behavior....what you reap is what you sow....and the child (UNDER THE AGE OF 12 - 16) cannot be blamed for the behaviour of his/her parents.

 

[Irishmommyof4]

We had 8 at our table...had very nice table mates, really enjoyed them. We had 2 young children, and they had 2 teens, very nice family.

So... all we need to do have 2 more kiddos and we'll get a table to ourselves!

 

[PusheeKatt]

How ironic...

I was at Biergarten for dinner the last week of August, and observed a similar altercation. An older man (mid 50's) was with a 10 year old girl. He was quite agitated at the hostess stand, and was pacing while waiting for a table. He and the girl were arguing a bit...and then I was quite shocked when he raised a fist...kinda like the "I'm gonna...." to the little girl. She didn't blink an eye. The hostess watched the whole thing...cause she and I made eye contact.

Later...saw them seated down on the lower tier and sure enough...when they seated others at the table he threw another fit. You could hear him half way across the restaurant (no small feat!)

I've seen different parenting techniques...some that I agree with and some that I don't. What is it about that restaurant?

 

[tmanaster]

This is so sad! Sorry your meal was ruined, but so very sorry for this man's wife and especially her baby! At Disney no less! I hope she comes to her senses and puts a stop to this behavior sooner rather than later!

 

[pooh2001]

ABUSE !

If my DH ever lays a hand on me - I am out of the house with my kids and a lawyer in pursuit. I have no problem standing on my own and hold a full time job with benefits.
But - I have a very loving relationship with my DH and my family.
Hugs all around and church every Sunday.

Evryone should be treated with respect. No hitting or extream verbal abuse allowed.

Yes, I would agree - manager/police - but the wife has to press charges and sometimes its hard to prove.
Also the wife has to have enough guts to stick up for herself.

I agree about the husband's parents sitting right there. The father must have been abusive to the mother.

I hope the cycle ends and the wife realizes she is a good person and does not deserve to be treated poorly in public or private home.
I wish the wife and her child the best in life. I hope the husband seeks help for his actions.

 

[Aimeedyan]

How very sad.

Unfortunately, if security had been called and things had further escalated, the young woman would have paid for it all in the end. It amazes me that others (aka his parents) see this abusive behavior and see nothing wrong with it. What a sad life she is leading right now - and eventually their child. One can only hope she convinces herself that she is worth more than that and gets out. That, however, is easier said than done for abused women.

 

[Meezers]

FYI...in most states the STATE presses charges in domestic violence. This keeps the victim from changing their mind....again.....and again....

That said however...depending on the state...there has to be evidence of physical abuse. What is happening to this lady is psychological abuse....been there.

It happens so subtley over a long period of time....you wake up one day 11 years later and realize you are an abused spouse. Ask people who know me....had it been physical abuse I could have dealt with it. By the time I realized I needed out I had no confidence...no self esteem and had been separated from anyone who would help. I was lucky....I had one friend and several co-workers who supported me. And DM and DB to help when I got back to Atlanta. I hope this poor lady gets some friends outside her small family who helps her get whatever help she needs.

 

[Pooh1219]

I work in the legal system, specifically, domestic violence, and problems like this are not resolved easily, especially in the Biergarten in WDW. Whether or not security should or should not have been called would not have resulted in a favorable scenario for the poor woman or her child.

The main fact here is that management of the restaurant should have moved the OP and her family immediately, I don't care how full or overbooked the restaurant was. The situation made them very uncomfortable, and it's too bad that they were busy - make this family happy and move them to another table ASAP. As far as DH remaining to finish his meal while his wife and child left the restaurant just boggles my mind. Your family is so upset that they feel they have no recourse but to leave, and you stay to finish chowing down? YIKES - that seems very sad to me.