MVMCP sold out

[PhoenixWright]

I hope the party on the 15th isn't sold out, but I'm already expecting it to be. Gonna get there right at 4 and line up to see Sandy Claws early.

 

[alliecat523]

We have never gone at this time of year. We have been to wdw for Easter and in July/August. Is it much worse than those?

We are usually at the parks during Spring Break. I feel like the party was less crowded than those times.

 

[csjordan]

I'm so nervous that our sold out party on the 18th is gonna be a mob scene. All I want is to be able to see the parade and fireworks without some obnoxious family pushing me out of the way

We will see you at the party! Hoping for no mob scene or rain (the last party we went to it monsooned!)!!

 

[luvmarypoppins]

I hope the party on the 15th isn't sold out, but I'm already expecting it to be. Gonna get there right at 4 and line up to see Sandy Claws early.

I am wondering about this also since rain is predicted for the 17th.

 

[JimmyV]

At our sold out party, we had a hard time moving anywhere in the park, not just the typical clogged spots on busy days. There is no way it is only 25% of actual capacity.

This is a really hard thing to gauge (as anyone who ever played Roller Coaster Tycoon--or helped a child play it--can attest.) There are a lot of moving parts that go in to whether a park is, or seems, crowded, and much of that turns on reduced staffing. When only a portion of CS food stations are open, people are pushed out of the unused buildings and into the public walkways, making the park seem more crowded than it is. When only one loading side of an attraction is open, fewer people are riding that ride, and the rest are pushed into public walkways, making the park seem more crowded. When there are only a few main stages where people are performing, all the guests congregated in those areas, leaving much of the rest of the park unoccupied making the area you are in seem more crowded than the park actually is. When there are a lot of meet-and-greets out in the street instead of inside buildings, people crush into the public walkways making the park seem more crowded than it is. Simply put, when the park runs on "half-power", it can seem way more crowded than it actually is, even if the total number of guests is only 25% of capacity.
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Or...it could be that the park attendance during the party was way more than 25%.

 

[jade1]

We were just down there but did not do the MVMCP. It was open until midnight anyway and we have been lucky to go enough to not care to rush around for rides. We did watch from Trader Sams at the POLY one night-impressive to see the wide fireworks over the water from there.

But I just have no idea what can be done with this.

Countless times we stood (Peppermint Starbucks in hand) on Main Street or in the hub for the shows (Elsa lighting etc) and just had no interest in being anywhere else in the entire real world, esp with the wonderful weather on top of it. Even spots at DHS like O Lights, or EPCOT Illuminations Holiday ending, the ROL is going to be the same feeling.

A tiny good feeling at Hogwarts and Gringotts-but in general just no emotion at all at US/IOA in comparison. Super fun day no doubt-just not near the same esp XMAS wise.

Point is, they have lightning in a bottle and that can be hard to distribute. Christmas (the way they do it) would make it just that much harder.

 

[DebbieB]

I was debating back and forth about last night. I went to BW guest services Monday afternoon to buy a ticket and they told me it sold out on Sunday. Friday is also sold out. Tomorrow was still available on Monday but I decided to pass.

 

[jade1]

Was wondering if the have FP+ during MVMCP?

Or is it all SB.

 

[jade1]

I was debating back and forth about last night. I went to BW guest services Monday afternoon to buy a ticket and they told me it sold out on Sunday. Friday is also sold out. Tomorrow was still available on Monday but I decided to pass.

Love the BW at Christmas-lucky. Weather is still great it appears, have fun.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

Was wondering if the have FP+ during MVMCP?

Or is it all SB.

No FP+ during the party hours. You can enter the MK with your party ticket at 4:00 and use FP+ until 6:30pm, which is the end of the last FP+ window they allow on party nights.

 

[porterbl1]

I went to the party last night. We got in the park about 6:15. My daughter got in line for 7 dwarfs meet about 6:30. I took my youngest and walked on dumbo, carousel, barnstormer. We stood in a 20-30 line for 7 dwarfs pics. After that we walked on Space Mountain 2-3 times, Winnie, Indy, btmr, jingle cruise, splash... Then we sat down for the 10:30 parade at 10:15. We left after it.

I couldn't have asked for a better experience. It was congested, but the rides were all walk ons. I just avoided the worst areas. I'm shocked to hear it was sold out actually.

 

[jade1]

I went to the party last night. We got in the park about 6:15. My daughter got in line for 7 dwarfs meet about 6:30. I took my youngest and walked on dumbo, carousel, barnstormer. We stood in a 20-30 line for 7 dwarfs pics. After that we walked on Space Mountain 2-3 times, Winnie, Indy, btmr, jingle cruise, splash... Then we sat down for the 10:30 parade at 10:15. We left after it.

I couldn't have asked for a better experience. It was congested, but the rides were all walk ons. I just avoided the worst areas. I'm shocked to hear it was sold out actually.

Nice to hear.

 

[11290]

I wonder if there are any CMs on the board who would be willing to give up the information. I know at EPCOT during morning meeting and then if you read the daily board in our attraction office you would see the forecast numbers for the day. I have to imagine they give MK CMs the same information and that they know what roughly a sold out party is compared to a non-sold out.

Only if they were interested in possibly having their employment terminated.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Good questions. We likely won't ever know. And another question is...Is "Sold Out" in 2015 the same thing as "Sold Out" in 2010? For those who say: "We have been there on Sold Out nights in the past and it wasn't that bad", consider that maybe they only sold 15,000 tickets back then, and maybe they sell 30,000 now. I don't know. But I am sure that they can "up" the ticket count at will.

Pretty sure it's not the same amount of tickets as prior years.

I complained about how packed the first mnsshp was this year. I got a phone call from a guest services cm who said they'd increased the number of tickets because of the hub expansion.

Now, was he just saying that or did he know for sure? Who knows, but it makes sense.

 

[kelleybean]

We went to a sold out MNSSHP this year. We were so frustrated with the crowds for the early parade ... especially since we had gone at almost the same time last year and it was perfect. We were able to go to a lower crowd Christmas party this year (Nov 12) and even though I usually prefer the Halloween party, the low crowds were fantastic. My son really wanted to watch the parade again and we were able to walk up to a decent spot right as the parade was approaching.

I think the impact of the crowds depends on what you want to do as well. My son has no interest in the characters and more interested in the rides. Even on the sold out nights we were easily able to do everything we wanted except Mine Train which had broken down. We are happy to watch the fireworks behind the castle which helps. But character lines looked absolutely crazy to me and I could definitely see how that could take up your whole evening on very crowded party nights.

 

[mom2rtk]

Good questions. We likely won't ever know. And another question is...Is "Sold Out" in 2015 the same thing as "Sold Out" in 2010? For those who say: "We have been there on Sold Out nights in the past and it wasn't that bad", consider that maybe they only sold 15,000 tickets back then, and maybe they sell 30,000 now. I don't know. But I am sure that they can "up" the ticket count at will.

I really think this is the answer. I believe they don't release the number because it's a moving target. Our last parties were in 2012, but reports here seem like it's a lot worse since then. I would imagine for example, that they increased park capacity after New Fantasyland opened, and probably party ticket sales as well. And while some people visit New Fantasyland during the party, they hang mostly hang out on Main Street, which would indeed make it feel a lot worse now.

Additionally, we have no way of knowing how staffing levels have changed as ticket sales have (theoretically) increased. If they increased tickets without a proportional increase in staffing, that would make it feel worse as well.

 

[mom2rtk]

I got a phone call from a guest services cm who said they'd increased the number of tickets because of the hub expansion.

So there you have it.

Hub expansion was not about better traffic flow. It was so they could squeeze in more bodies.

I'm shocked.

Not.

 

[focusondisney]

I am wondering about this also since rain is predicted for the 17th.

Eh, depending what site you look at, rain is predicted almost every day next week to some extent. Week away is too far ahead to be accurate.

 

[tmoo]

If I believed for a minute that they capped the ticket sales at 25% capacity I would buy them. If they capped at 25% and EVERY SINGLE PERSON watched one of the 2 parades there would not be crowding issues. That would only be 12.5% of capacity stretched along the entire parade route.

 

[Elk Grove Chris]

I hope the party on the 15th isn't sold out, but I'm already expecting it to be. Gonna get there right at 4 and line up to see Sandy Claws early.

I checked yesterday and you could still buy tickets for the 15th. We will be there that night also, hoping that any rain would move on quickly if it comes. I am assuming for a paid event like this, it would take some pretty torrential downpours to see the masses exit.