Mulitple resort pt usage on reservation?

[Snurk71]

I have a multi-scenario question about using points from mulitple resorts on a reservation, and a related question thrown in for a bonus. I've heard an answer from MS, but like to check with the DIS experts too.

Scenario 1
Own 100 pts at BLT and 100 pts at OKW. I want to make a reservation at 7 months (no home booking to this scenario) for 135 points. Since I have 200 current year total points for this 135 point stay, can I cover those however I want - say either 100 BLT + 35 OKW or 90 BLT + 45 OKW? I might want the latter to bank the points that way into the next year because I know I'm going to have stays the following year that would best utilize 110 pts at BLT and 145 at OKW and don't want to borrow if I can get around it.

Scenario 2
Own 200 pts at BLT and 200 pts at OKW. I make an 85 pt reservation at 11 months at BLT (leaving me 115 BLT + 200 OKW). At 7 months I modify the reservation, upgrading the room to a point usage of 150. So I have a 65 pt modification to fund. Can I split this 65 pts up how I want - say take 30 from BLT and 35 from OKW (because I know my future vacation plans and this is what works best for keeping my points for 11 month bookings)?

Bonus question
I don't think you can do this, but thought I'd ask anyway. Say I own 200 pts at BLT + 200 pts at OKW. I make a BLT reservation at the 11 month window costing 190 pts, using BLT pts of course. Can I modify the reservation at 7 months or under to switch the point usage over to OKW? I kind of doubt I can do this to subvert the home booking rules, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I have a feeling to make the switch I would have to make a new BLT reservation at 7 months under the OKW pts (if available), and then cancel the BLT pts.

Thanks

 

[RobDoc]

I have a multi-scenario question about using points from mulitple resorts on a reservation, and a related question thrown in for a bonus. I've heard an answer from MS, but like to check with the DIS experts too.

Scenario 1
Own 100 pts at BLT and 100 pts at OKW. I want to make a reservation at 7 months (no home booking to this scenario) for 135 points. Since I have 200 current year total points for this 135 point stay, can I cover those however I want - say either 100 BLT + 35 OKW or 90 BLT + 45 OKW? I might want the latter to bank the points that way into the next year because I know I'm going to have stays the following year that would best utilize 110 pts at BLT and 145 at OKW and don't want to borrow if I can get around it.

Yes, as long as you are reserving whole nights from one account or the other. Without transferring points, you won't be able to use 6 points from one resort account and 6 from the other to reserve on night requiring 12 points.

Scenario 2[/U][/B]
Own 200 pts at BLT and 200 pts at OKW. I make an 85 pt reservation at 11 months at BLT (leaving me 115 BLT + 200 OKW). At 7 months I modify the reservation, upgrading the room to a point usage of 150. So I have a 65 pt modification to fund. Can I split this 65 pts up how I want - say take 30 from BLT and 35 from OKW (because I know my future vacation plans and this is what works best for keeping my points for 11 month bookings)?

If you are upgrading to a different villa type, it will require a cancellation and making a new reservation - so it will be goverened by "Scenario 1" above. If it is simply adding nights to the existing reservation, there should be no problem - based on availability.

Bonus question
I don't think you can do this, but thought I'd ask anyway. Say I own 200 pts at BLT + 200 pts at OKW. I make a BLT reservation at the 11 month window costing 190 pts, using BLT pts of course. Can I modify the reservation at 7 months or under to switch the point usage over to OKW? I kind of doubt I can do this to subvert the home booking rules, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I have a feeling to make the switch I would have to make a new BLT reservation at 7 months under the OKW pts (if available), and then cancel the BLT pts.

Thanks

You can do that only if there is still availability at 7 months since it would require a cancellation/rebooking to use points from the non-home resort. If there is already a wait list for the reservation, you would not likely be able to reallocate non-home points for the reservation made during the Home Resort Priority window.

Usually, you would only be able to reallocate points in that fashion if you had some BLT points from a recently cancelled reservation orsome just transferred into your account.

 

[spiceycat]

scenario 1 and 2 you can do.

just be sure to tell the MS that you want 30 & 35 points before they use them.

bonus question - well if you want to take the chance of your entire reservation being cancelled - you can try to do it.

the problem is that sometimes there is no room left. the only way to change your points is to cancel your reservation and start over. when you cancel a reservation - the points can go to the wait list. that can definitely be a BIG problem if you are going when the resort is sold out. the computer does this- ms has no control over it.

think the MS are told NOT to this.

 

[Snurk71]

Doc, MS told me the opposite of what you described for scenarios 1 and 2.

For scenario 1, they said I had to use all of one resort up and then the balance of the other. I didn't think that was right, but didn't challenge too hard on it. I thought she might have just been looking for the easiest booking for her.

For scenario 2, MS told me that changing from a studio to a 1BR (for example) was a modification to a reservation that did not require a cancel of the original. I was leaning with MS on this one because when I did this (upgrade from a studio to a 1BR), the reservation# stayed the same.

I might have to call back under scenario 1 to see if I can get a supervisor to adjust my point usage. Wish me luck.

 

[RobDoc]

Doc, MS told me the opposite of what you described for scenarios 1 and 2.

For scenario 1, they said I had to use all of one resort up and then the balance of the other. I didn't think that was right, but didn't challenge too hard on it. I thought she might have just been looking for the easiest booking for her.

For scenario 2, MS told me that changing from a studio to a 1BR (for example) was a modification to a reservation that did not require a cancel of the original. I was leaning with MS on this one because when I did this (upgrade from a studio to a 1BR), the reservation# stayed the same.

I might have to call back under scenario 1 to see if I can get a supervisor to adjust my point usage. Wish me luck.

I often make reservations using at least 2 different memberships and have never had any problem doing so. In this case you would be making at least 2 different reservations (with a unique reservation #) and MS would link them together. If the points are all from one contract they would still have the same reservation number if made within 7 months.

A "modification" to an existing reservation usually means adding or removing nights for the original reservation - but changing to a different villa type or switching resorts would need a new reservation - and canceling the original reservation would be required (unless you are keeping the studio). I suppose some MS reps are willing/able to just change the room type and keep the same reservation number, but that's never happened in our experience.

One consistent "rule" regarding MS is that they are notoriously inconsistent with how they go about managing some aspects of DVC reservations so in some cases, anything is possible.

Good luck!

 

[Sandisw]

Doc, MS told me the opposite of what you described for scenarios 1 and 2.

For scenario 1, they said I had to use all of one resort up and then the balance of the other. I didn't think that was right, but didn't challenge too hard on it. I thought she might have just been looking for the easiest booking for her.

For scenario 2, MS told me that changing from a studio to a 1BR (for example) was a modification to a reservation that did not require a cancel of the original. I was leaning with MS on this one because when I did this (upgrade from a studio to a 1BR), the reservation# stayed the same.

I might have to call back under scenario 1 to see if I can get a supervisor to adjust my point usage. Wish me luck.

While upgrading rooms is sometimes termed a modification of the reservation, they are still cancelling one room and re-booking another. It can and will leave the reservation number the same in many cases. So, in Scenerio #2, if you had a studio booked and call at 7 months to upgrade to a 1 bedroom, it is still subject to availabilty and thus why it is technically, a cancellation and re-book.

We did that withour SV 1 bedroom. We changed it to a 1 bedroom LV. My reservation stayed the same but they could only do it because there was still a 1 bedroom left.

 

[Snurk71]

While upgrading rooms is sometimes termed a modification of the reservation, they are still cancelling one room and re-booking another. It can and will leave the reservation number the same in many cases. So, in Scenerio #2, if you had a studio booked and call at 7 months to upgrade to a 1 bedroom, it is still subject to availabilty and thus why it is technically, a cancellation and re-book.

We did that withour SV 1 bedroom. We changed it to a 1 bedroom LV. My reservation stayed the same but they could only do it because there was still a 1 bedroom left.

Such are the inconsistencies with MS. I had a rep coach/instruct me on "modifying the reservation" to the 1BR from the studio so the studio would never be in a cancelled state until the 1BR was locked in (then of course the studio would be released). That was my main concern, knowing how availability works and books, that the rep would see a 1BR available - cancel the studio - and before being able to book the 1BR someone else grabs that 1BR, and then while trying to go back to the studio - someone else grabs the studio and there I would sit with no room at all. The MS rep said that if I modified the reservation from a studio to a 1BR that the studio would not cancel/drop until the 1BR was confirmed.

She explained that this would be different for a change in resorts (which is what I did this morning). In that case the rep told me that the studio would have to be cancelled first, and then the 1BR booked (I don't have enough points for both) and there would be that sliver of time where I could be SOL as I described above. It didn't happen to me, but it was possible.

 

[Snurk71]

I often make reservations using at least 2 different memberships and have never had any problem doing so. In this case you would be making at least 2 different reservations (with a unique reservation #) and MS would link them together. If the points are all from one contract they would still have the same reservation number if made within 7 months.

Would that make my case different - my reservation was under the same contract (two resorts, same master contract) instead of two memberships???

It still didn't/doesn't sound right to me. I'm about to do an add-on. I'll see if my rep will fix it (condition on buying now) if I can't get MS to do it.

 

[RobDoc]

Would that make my case different - my reservation was under the same contract (two resorts, same master contract) instead of two memberships???

It still didn't/doesn't sound right to me. I'm about to do an add-on. I'll see if my rep will fix it (condition on buying now) if I can't get MS to do it.

No, it should not make any difference. You would just need to make X # of nights from one contract and Y # of nights from the other contract. At 7 months, it does not make a difference which contract the points come from. The points are definitely from 2 different contracts under one membership number - .00 and .01 (most likely). You would likely have a different reservation # for any nights reserved under different contract #s, but they can link them together into one seamless reservation.

It is certainly easier for them to make the reservation all from one contract, but that should not matter for reservations within 7 months. If you get a rep unwilling to do so, just ask to speak with a supervisor. At 11 months, there is no question - but if the reservation is being made within 7 months, you can designate which contracts are to be used.

 

[Dean]

I have a multi-scenario question about using points from mulitple resorts on a reservation, and a related question thrown in for a bonus. I've heard an answer from MS, but like to check with the DIS experts too.

Scenario 1
Own 100 pts at BLT and 100 pts at OKW. I want to make a reservation at 7 months (no home booking to this scenario) for 135 points. Since I have 200 current year total points for this 135 point stay, can I cover those however I want - say either 100 BLT + 35 OKW or 90 BLT + 45 OKW? I might want the latter to bank the points that way into the next year because I know I'm going to have stays the following year that would best utilize 110 pts at BLT and 145 at OKW and don't want to borrow if I can get around it.

Scenario 2
Own 200 pts at BLT and 200 pts at OKW. I make an 85 pt reservation at 11 months at BLT (leaving me 115 BLT + 200 OKW). At 7 months I modify the reservation, upgrading the room to a point usage of 150. So I have a 65 pt modification to fund. Can I split this 65 pts up how I want - say take 30 from BLT and 35 from OKW (because I know my future vacation plans and this is what works best for keeping my points for 11 month bookings)?

Bonus question
I don't think you can do this, but thought I'd ask anyway. Say I own 200 pts at BLT + 200 pts at OKW. I make a BLT reservation at the 11 month window costing 190 pts, using BLT pts of course. Can I modify the reservation at 7 months or under to switch the point usage over to OKW? I kind of doubt I can do this to subvert the home booking rules, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I have a feeling to make the switch I would have to make a new BLT reservation at 7 months under the OKW pts (if available), and then cancel the BLT pts.

Thanks

1. Should be yes but DVC has often insisted on using home resort points first even at or after 7 months out. One way around this is to make a separate reservation with the points you don't want to use then make the other changes thus using the non home resort points. Or you can bank the home resort points and use the none home resort points.

2. Essentially the same. It is a cancelation and rebooking. For example, if you had a lockoff 2 BR booked, you couldn't just drop off one side or the other to keep the smaller side.

Bonus - As noted, no but you can book any days available and cancel days out of the original reservation essentially accomplishing the same thing. You can also wait list for days using the OKW points then cancel existing days later that use BLT points, subject to the WL limitations.

 

[amystevekai&bump]

sorry to crash this thread but I just wanted to clarify something which I think I may have misunderstood??

I own 100 pts at BLT & 100 pts at AKV (under the same membership no) - I want to book 2 nights at VB at 7mths and thought I could just combine some points from each place in any combination that I wanted? But now reading this thread it sounds as though I will have to book a whole night using one resorts points and the other night using the other resorts points? - which is correct?

This will make a big difference to me, as I have more than enough points to cover one night from my BLT points, but not enough points on my AKV contract to cover the other night - so in effect if the second statement is correct then I won't be able to make my 2 night booking.

Could someone please confirm which is correct? - many thanks as I am beginning to worry now - many thanks!!

 

[Dean]

sorry to crash this thread but I just wanted to clarify something which I think I may have misunderstood??

I own 100 pts at BLT & 100 pts at AKV (under the same membership no) - I want to book 2 nights at VB at 7mths and thought I could just combine some points from each place in any combination that I wanted? But now reading this thread it sounds as though I will have to book a whole night using one resorts points and the other night using the other resorts points? - which is correct?

This will make a big difference to me, as I have more than enough points to cover one night from my BLT points, but not enough points on my AKV contract to cover the other night - so in effect if the second statement is correct then I won't be able to make my 2 night booking.

Could someone please confirm which is correct? - many thanks as I am beginning to worry now - many thanks!!

As long as they are under one master you can use any combo of these points you want at or after the 7 month window. Just tell them which ones to use if it matters to you. The only issue seems to be when you're reserving home resort points at or after the 7 month window and this is variable.

 

[amystevekai&bump]

As long as they are under one master you can use any combo of these points you want at or after the 7 month window. Just tell them which ones to use if it matters to you. The only issue seems to be when you're reserving home resort points at or after the 7 month window and this is variable.

thanks Dean for explaining - I feel better now!