Mostly off topic... (gasp, not Disney but Hawaii)

kimmay

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I LOVE my disney trips but it's time for the kids to see a new part of the country :)

I'm hoping to find some tools to help us save money on a trip to Hawaii. We won't be going for well over a year and have time to shop around and save but I'm really not sure where to start. We're planning on staying in Oahu for a few days then possibly staying on another island for a few days with a one day trip to the big island. The kids, who will both be teens when we go, would like to try surfing and want to swim, swim, swim.

The sooner I save for Hawaii the sooner I can get back to Disney :)

What's your best advice for saving in Hawaii?

Thanks!
 
I just got home today from my 5th Hawaiian vacation.

It's not a budget friendly place. You need to budget for food and car rental. Our car rental for this one week (spring break) was $978 and gas was about $5/gallon.

Lunch yesterday: my husband had a fish sandwich. I had sliced tomatoes. Add 2 ice teas and the bill, before tip, was $47.

We do not like Oahu. We've done Hawaii and now our 3rd Maui trip.

The cheapest way to go would be to rent a house or condo and grocery shop.
 
Thats why I will cruise from the west coast and go to hawaii. No airfare, no car rental. And my meals come with my cruise. And they visit 4 or 5 islands. More money for little gifts. Well Pakey I am glad you had a good time.
 
I would look at travel off season, which would mean pulling your children out of school. This will help to get the best price on hotels and airfare. I agree, car rental/gas is expensive there so if you don't need a car don't get one. If you decide to stay in Waikiki/Honolulu you should be able to get around without one, but if you want to see other places... think about what it is you want to see (ie: Pearl Harbor) and shop around for prices (ie: tours that will get you there). If you do decide to rent a car search online for car rental discount codes. We had purchased the Entertainment book and found rental codes in there as well as other coupons that we used during our last trip.

Rooms in Waikiki/Honolulu should be competitive in price as they want your money, it's places on the North Shore that won't be as competitively priced as the competition is few. Although Turtle Bay is a nice place to stay! Food can vary in price too. If in doubt check menus at the podiums prior to sitting down at a table. Our meal costs were all over the place as we dined at a variety of options.

I'm fortunate that my grandparents live on Kauai so we don't need a hotel when we visit, but hotels on Kauai can get pricey, especially if you are more than 4 people. Generally the farther away form the beach you are the cheaper the rooms. However things on Kauai are spread out and a car is nice to have IMO.

In order to budget I would consider:
-looking at hotel costs and save for that. Budget high and if you end up getting a good price, the better!
-Look at dining options and estimate high. You can always call the restaurant to get an idea of the cost.
-Look at tour options and estimate high.
-Look at rental car prices during busy tourist seasons to get an idea of what the cost might be, plus budget $5/gallon on gas, and for hotel parking.
-Souvenirs
-Surfing lessons (since you said your kids were interested in this).
-Airfare during the high season and increase the amount as airfare keeps going up.
 

I would look at staying at Oahu the whole week. If you've never been before, there's lots to do for a week there, no need to Island hop. Island hopping is going to add to your airfare prices. And I would pick Oahu, because there's lots for teenagers, and it's the easiset island to navigate without a car. Rental car, gas, and hotel parking will easily run you $1000 on a 1 wek trip. The buses very easily take you from the Waikiki area, to most of the other areas. And also look at riding the buses vs. a tour group. The tours are expensive, and you can do the same thing, for way cheaper, just using the busses. You can take a bus to diamond head and hike for free. Take the bus to pearl harbor and do the tour ourself. The USS Arizona Memorial is free and the bus is like $3/person each way, but the tours charge $30-$50/person. Take the bus to haunama bay (I know that's spelled wrong, but someone should be able to correct it) and snorkle. Again, the tours go here for much, much more. Take the bus to the Ihilani Palace and do the self guided tour. The self guided tour shows the same exact things and discusses the same things as the guided tour, just allowing you to go at your own pace and save money. Take the bus to Ala Moana Mall and shop. Take the free shuttle to Hilo Hattie and shop. Aside from that, sitting on the beach is free and that's the best part of Hawaii anyways :) Also, on waikiki beach, they have stands where you can rent a surf board, water bikes, kayaks, etc by the hour or day, and they are really reasonable. I think we paid about $10-$12 for 2 hours on those water bike things the last time we were there a year ago.

Also pick up the little red coupon books on all the corners. They have discount coupons for helicopter rides over the Big Island volcanoes, the catamarran boats, surf lessons, restaurants, etc.

Many people are going to say oh the food is so expensive, but we don't find that to be the case. The prices are a little higher than at home, but not significantly. They still have chain restaurants: California Pizza Kitchen, PF Changs, Red Lobster, Outback, Bucca Di Beppo, etc that are all priced maybe a couple dollars higher than at home (Just mentioning incase your kids aren't adventerous eaters) They also have some really nice, expensive restaurants and eating there would add up and be expensive, but so would eating at an expensive restaurant every night at home... If you're really trying to eat cheap, there are a lot of sushi/noodle bowl/teryaki bowl places. They serve giant bowls of japenese ramen like noodle soups with chicken or beef, teryaki rice bowls or lunch boxes and limited sushi offerings and they're all really, really reasonable. We like the noodle bowl place in Hilton Hawaiian Village and the bowls were around $6 each. Across from Hilton Hawaiian Village is Wailana Coffee house. They have an all you can eat pancake breakfast for $4.99/person. So there are plenty of affordable places to eat, if you look.

Good luck planning, and if you have any other questions or need help, just ask!!!
 
both kauai and maui, i'm not sure I'd do two islands again especially with kids.

One is fine as i'm sure they're all beautiful and one is enough.

I'd also get a couple of new guide books and rent a condo. Food even in supermarkets not cheap, but at least you don't have to eat out several meals a day.
 
When we went, we found it was really helpful to talk to a TA. We normally book trips ourselves, but somehow Hawaii felt different.

We split our time between two hotels, but stayed on Oahu. First North Shore, then Ko Olina. They're pretty different places on the same island so it was nice to do both.

Not everywhere had expensive food. Kua 'Aina is a burger place in Haleiwa (North Shore) that literally has the best burger I've ever had and has reasonable prices.

We stayed at Turtle Bay on some sort of special. The great thing there is that every room has an ocean view :cloud9:

Then we stayed at the Marriott Ihilani, which is in Ko Olina, on a special that included free buffet breakfast for two each morning. You might want to check them out. They're about three feet from the new Disney resort, so I'd imagine that they'll be having some good specials soon.

Hawaii is definitely expensive, but our favorite days were they days we spent lounging on the beach, not really doing anything. I don't think it ended up being any more expensive then going to Disney and staying Deluxe (we're in CA so flights were about the same). Good luck searching and have fun!
 
You will love Hawaii.

When we went to Oahu, we stayed at Wakiki Beach and just rented a car for one day. We had a coupon from the Entertainment book so it was under $50 for the day. Parking is typically an additional cost at most hotels so you most likely won't want to have a car for the whole trip. The bus system is really easy to use and very efficient.

I have also stayed on Kauai, Big Island and Maui. We actually did the Big Island and Maui last May to celebrate my mom being cancer free for 3 years.
How I saved on airfare was I booked each leg of the trip as one way. We flew Calgary to Kona (Big Island) - stayed 6 days then flew on Mokelule (sp??) Air over to Maui (it was a 9 seater plane and they weight you with your carry on so that they can spread the weight evenly over the plane). Then we flew Maui to Calgary - I was able to get our total flight cost for around $600 each. We did rent a car on both islands as you need to - I think that Oahu is the only island where I would recommend only renting for a day so that you can tour the North Shore. I booked our car rental through hotwire.com and got the rentals for $138 for 6 days on Big Island and $126 on Maui for 4 days.

On the Big Island, my son (4 at the time) enjoyed snorkeling with the sea turtles which was totally amazing and tried surfing - he was able to stand 5 times but the waves kept knocking him off so he got a little frustrated. We had brought our own snorkel gear with us and borrowed the surf board from our hotel. They also lent us a beach umbrella, beach chairs and bamboo mats to use at the beach so we did not have to buy any of the those items. Make sure to check with your hotel because they usually have items left from other guests that they just lend out so you don't have to buy them.

We also found that the hotels that we stayed on at the Big Island and Maui had grills around the swimming pool so you could pick up some steaks, chicken or fish to grill - there was Costco on both islands and Safeway. We picked up groceries and saved quite a bit by cooking a lot of our meals in the condo.

My experience on Oahu was not being in a condo, it was a small hotel room and you did have to eat out all your meals. I found that lots of restaurants had deals if you ate before 5pm and there was one excellent breakfast place that had 2 pancakes, 2 eggs and bacon for $1.99 - we ate there a couple of times. If you do rent a car on Oahu, make sure to head over to the North Shore, as you are driving, you will see a group of trailers/caravans and see signs saying Shrimp Shacks - if you like shrimp, these are amazing, the shrimp were huge and they would cook them in any sauce you desired and the price was quite reasonable. It looks like a dive because the trailers/caravans are quite old but the shrimp is incredible and well worth the stop.

You will have an awesome trip. I had booked our condo on Maui on hotwire.com too and paid about $100 per night - it was a gorgeous view of the ocean from our balcony and the BBQ's at the pool were awesome.
 
Seriously?? :scared1: I had no idea!

We (just hubby & I) were there for 5 days last May. We never once spent that kind of money one a meal.

Nor did we pay an outrageous amount for a rental car.

I know some don't like the travel sites like Expedia etc. but I'll tell you what we paid and you can make your own decision.

It was just the two of us so that will matter I know. We paid right under $2000 for roundtrip airfare from WV to Maui, rental car for 6 days, hotel room (ON the beach -- I have photos) but it wouldn't be big enough for 4 for 5 nights. Oh and we went in May so it wasn't the height of tourist season that make a big difference too.

Once we arrived we went to the grocery store and bought some things for snacks & some meals. We only ate out once a day. They have all those tourist magazines all over the place, there will be coupons in them for restaurants & places, USE them as much as you can.

Obviously we didn't island hop so that would add on too.
We did do a cruise with Pacific Whale Foundation, went to the aquarium, did the road to Hana, went to the top of Halelakula (sp?)and spend our time snorkeling, on the beach, enjoying the ocean.
 
OH there is a book about restaurants on Maui (if you end up there) I'm not sure if there is one for the other islands too.

Along the titles of thrifty & Frugal dining ror something like that. Ach, I can't think of it & can't find it just at the moment or I'd find it for you. Try Molly(i) Jacobson on Amazon it'll probably come up. I bought it, read it & it really helped us think about where we'd like to spend the $$ to eat and where we didn't want to waste our money etc. It tells the cuisine, their rating, prices, hours everything.
 
Flights: Off season is best for flights, but plan on spending a minimum of $500 RT per person from the West Coast, then add however much it takes you to get to the West Coast. If you sign up for Hawaiian Airlines e-mails they do run specials usually about 2 seasons out, but often times if they are running specials its a weak market so United/US Airways/Delta will run something comparable. As for season, I recommend early Dec-Jan-Feb as the whales are here and the weather is cooler (summer's too hot IMHO).

Hotel: If you go to either the Maui News website or the Honolulu Star Advertiser website classified many locals own condos and rent them out privately, usually by the week or month, kind of VRBO style. Often not prime location, but nearby to it (ie. Kihei instead of Wailea) where you'll have access to the beach but not a beach view, if that makes sense. And VRBO is also a good way to go too. This can be much cheaper than renting a hotel by the night plus you get a kitchen and washer/dryer. Also TUG2.net has listings for people who own timeshares but can't use them on a given week and are renting it out for the price of their maintenance fees.

Food: DH and I eat out, oh at least 4 nights a week here because groceries are just that much more expensive than restaurants. If we get a couple of plate lunches (usually involving rice/meat/salad on a single plate), its usually in the range of $15 as opposed to spending $25 by the time we buy meat/vegetables/etc at imported prices. (Think about the fact that milk is $5/gallon on sale here and you'll get the idea - we depend on Costco or we'd never eat at home.) And when we lived in Cali we ate at home every night because we had roadside vegetable farmer's markets, etc, etc and it was cheaper then, so this is not an eating preference so much as what fits into our budget and time frame believe it or not. If you don't want high-end food but stuff that's ridiculously tasty in a styro-foam box, Hawaii is the place to be. Noodle shops, plate lunches, Asian-Pacific food is cheap and plentiful (and not too foreign from the Western experience, its still beef/chicken/pork, just with some unfamiliar sauces and rice instead of potatoes). If you do want to buy groceries, stop at Costco (or Sam's Club if you're on Oahu and that's where your membership is) - there is a Costco on each of the 3 largest islands, plus a Sam's Club and Target on Oahu.

Rental cars - there is a market for rent-a-wreck sort of things. They are usually farther from the airport, and not wrecks, but older model cars in decent condition (think 4 years or so on average) for cheaper prices, though again it varies by season. They still have airport shuttles (you just have to take a 15 minute drive from the airport instead of walking over with your bags), but cars that are not as nice in slightly less convenient locations.

Island hopping - not recommended for a budget. Since Aloha Airlines went out of business Hawaiian has almost no competition, so flying between islands is expensive. I only fly to Oahu when I have to for grad school, though usually we try to make that into a family weekend and end up spending $600 between plane tickets and hotel. Ouch. What's cheaper is doing different parts of the same island, and really on each island you just go to a different part and its like a completely different place. Different people different sights, so when we want to 'staycation' we go to the West side of the island since we live in Central, or the extreme South. But Oahu and the Big Island are similar in that if you go to another resort town it will feel very different and have different features, so I'd recommend staying on one island per trip personally.

Hawaii is doable on a budget once you get over the sticker shock of the airfare. If you decide to do Maui feel free to PM me. Most of my information on Oahu is kind of outdated since I went to college there in the 90's and telecommute to grad school there now and just get advice from my college buddies when I go ... but the general above tips should apply to Oahu/Maui/Big Island similarly ... Kauai less so since its less developed. Sorry about the novel.
 
The real world is so much better than The World. Seriously. Hawaii is amazing. I don't know anything about Oahu; my husband refuses to go there because of Honolulu being such a big city. He refuses to believe the rest of the island could be remote and peaceful. Kauaii is beautiful. What we did there was switch sides of the island mid way thru the trip. It was like 2 different places. Are doing the same on a different island next

Look at beatofhawaii.com. They have regular announcements of amazing airfares. They are almost always from the west coast. But they put them on Facebook or email them to subscribers. Current find is about $125 from somewhere on west coast.

I can't imagine not having a rental car. There is so much to see. I feel like it would be a waste to travel all that way then limit your exposure to just the resort area.

Vrbo has lots of rental homes available. Local real estate places have listings. Just another option aside from hotels.

Food wise, even groceries are expensive. I think the big island has the only Costco in the state. If you are there, it should be a good option for food and gas. Maybe the chain has expanded it's presence since I was there before.

Don't feel like if a house isn't ocean front then it won't be great. There are so many beaches you'll want to try. It is easy to get in the car and pick a new beach every day. And if it's raining on one, go to the next one on your list-it's probably sunny there :)
 
Ps: I didnt find island "hopping" to be as easy as it sounds. You still have to get to the airport and go thru security. Check in for your domestic flight how ever early the airline recommends. Land and rent your car. Lather rinse repeat. It would not be easy for a day trip. (my opinion)
 
You guys have given me some great ideas. It's helpful to know what other people have tried and either worked or didn't.

Love the condo idea!

Thanks again!!!
 
Look at beatofhawaii.com. They have regular announcements of amazing airfares. They are almost always from the west coast. But they put them on Facebook or email them to subscribers. Current find is about $125 from somewhere on west coast.

Do you have a link to their facebook page? I can't find it :confused3
 
We just got back as well.

It was NOT cheap - although we never had a $47 bill for two for sandwiches. Gas WAS $5 a gallon. Our rental car was $35 a day.

We did island hop. We spent two days on the Big Island (my husband wanted to visit Volcanos National Park, which was very cool) and then six days on Maui. That hop added $1000 to the budget for a family of four.

Rooms weren't too bad. We managed to stay at the Aston Maui Kaanapali Villas right on the beach for an average of $160 a night - with a kitchen which saved a bunch since we had breakfast in our rooms - and a few lunches and dinners too. But four people was $6000 just in airfare, hotel and car rental for nine days - and we tried to stay pretty budget (coming from Minnesota) - then we added tours (whale watching, volcanos), snorkeling, surf lessons and rentals, a luau, plus food - and probably spent $10k.
 














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