Monorail Collision in WDW

i agree. i could harldy watch the clickorlando.com video, i know for sure i wouldnt be able to handle a video or a recording of that. no way.

edit: just a question, but could the family sue disney if it turned out to be his fault? im clueless when it comes to this stuff. >_<
 
i REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that video is not leaked
:sad2:
 
i REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that video is not leaked
:sad2:

theres a video on youtube that was taken by someone in the ttc station, its not very long but its out there. some news sites are using it, so its too late to prevent it from being leaked.
 
i agree. i could harldy watch the clickorlando.com video, i know for sure i wouldnt be able to handle a video or a recording of that. no way.

edit: just a question, but could the family sue disney if it turned out to be his fault? im clueless when it comes to this stuff. >_<

not sure, if it does turn out to be his fault, they will most likely compensate them but trying to sue if it was his fault, probably wouldnt get them very far.
 

theres a video on youtube that was taken by someone in the ttc station, its not very long but its out there. some news sites are using it, so its too late to prevent it from being leaked.

not that video
-i really need to clarify more.-
if Austin did over ride the system and Disney does record it.....THAT video.
because there are people that WOULD do that. Disney or not
 
my CM friend just called from epcot and monorail coral is running on the epcot line.

well, we all knew they were going to get them back up and running as quickly as they could.
 
I heard that the purple train was stationary, and the pink train rammed it. after the collision they somehow pushed both trains into the loading area at ticket and transportation so that the people could get off of the monorail and paramedics could get to it easier. Also I heard that there was no one in the control center, which could explain why two trains were on the same track.
 
edit: just a question, but could the family sue disney if it turned out to be his fault? im clueless when it comes to this stuff. >_<

Probably not. If it was his fault, then it was his fault. But the family may try to come up with as many things as they could to get into court.

i REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that video is not leaked
:sad2:

I'm sure it won't. If it's just a voice recording, it possibly could.
Like 911 calls are ALWAYS leaked, but I've never seen a really graphic video, just heard graphic calls & if you consider the clickorlando video graphic then that too.

not sure, if it does turn out to be his fault, they will most likely compensate them but trying to sue if it was his fault, probably wouldnt get them very far.

Yeahh. They probably would compensate the family.
But I do really think it was Disney's fault because it's rumored that the control center cleared Monorail Pink which led to the collision into Purple.

I heard that the purple train was stationary, and the pink train rammed it. after the collision they somehow pushed both trains into the loading area at ticket and transportation so that the people could get off of the monorail and paramedics could get to it easier. Also I heard that there was no one in the control center, which could explain why two trains were on the same track.

I heard that too. Like I said ^^ they cleared the Monorail & then I heard noone was in there when they were actually moving.
 
I heard that the purple train was stationary, and the pink train rammed it. after the collision they somehow pushed both trains into the loading area at ticket and transportation so that the people could get off of the monorail and paramedics could get to it easier. Also I heard that there was no one in the control center, which could explain why two trains were on the same track.
I think nobody was in the control center, and the pink one was trying to back into the storage area when it rammed into the purple one. But I'm not understanding why they would try to do that, if they knew nobody was in the control center for the track switch?

I'm sure disney will compensate Austin's family. Even if it was his fault.
 
From what I've been reading this is what most likely happened:

It appears that the monorails were approaching the end of their operating day and that Monorail Pink was attempting to reposition itself to go back to the monorail barn for the night. For Epcot monorails, this requires leaving the TTC station and passing a track switch, then backing up to the Magic Kingdom Express monorail station. Once fully on the Magic Kingdom Express beam, the monorail continues in reverse past the Polynesian and Grand Floridian resorts and the front entrance to the Magic Kingdom before it backs up through another track switch that takes it to the monorail barn.

The pilot of Monorail Pink was apparently backing up, thinking that the monorail was heading for an empty Magic Kingdom Express station, but the switch had not moved to transfer it, and so Monorail Pink backed up into the Epcot station that was already occupied by Monorail Purple, which had already loaded and was about to depart the station when Pink slammed backward into it. Since the collision system is reportedly disabled during track switching, there would have been no automated warning. Because the curve on which the Epcot/Magic Kingdom Express switch is located is quite dark at night, and the tracks curve back into the station, it would have been very difficult for the pilot of Monorail Pink to visually notice if he was on the wrong track. There has also been an unconfirmed report that there may have been some miscommunication between the monorail shop and the monorail control center regarding the position of the switch which, if true, could have meant then the monorail control center would have given Monorail Pink the go-ahead to reverse through the switch and back through the station while the switch was still connected to the Epcot loop.

The monorails have a fail-safe system called MaPo that prevents two trains from getting too close to each other, and actually applies emergency brakes if a driver tries to continue through a warning. However, both trains had had to override their MaPo warnings as standard operating procedure for the maneuvers that they were attempting to undertake. In order for Monorail Purple to enter the station while Monorail Pink was still engaging in its switch procedure, Purple would have had to override its MaPo shutdown. In order for Monorail Pink to reverse through the switch, it would also have had to override MaPo, as the track switches automatically cause a MaPo alert. While in override mode, the maximum speed of each monorail is 15 miles per hour, whether moving forward or backward.
 
1) I understand why purple had to override it, but I find it very reckless that this is the same procedure for pink. There has got to be a better way to do this, without overriding the emergency break system. Let's hope Disney finds out a way.

2) Wow, only 15 miles per hour? And it caused THAT much damage?

3) I hope the idiot in the control room is fired. I cannot believe the switches didn't happen and they just let pink go right ahead into the epcot station while another monorail was there!

:(
 
15 mph may not sound that fast but its fast for the monorails. The monorails were pretty much built to not get near each other. They are basically built like egg shells, they are strong but only to a point. The end cabs also don't have any type of a bumper system to protect it if it gets hit.

A large heavy object traveling at 15mph is going to do a lot more damage than a small, light object. It's a matter of momentum. There could easily be that much damage at 15mph or less because the monorail isn't going to just stop on contact. Either the momentum gets transferred to the receiving object in a perfectly elastic collision (which is never the case), deflected (at least partially the case), or absorbed (which is the case).
 
i may just be re-stating, but the news just said that the monorail that slammed into the stationary one had switched into manual drive. something about no one switched the tracks for the monorail to be put away for the night. the monorail that was stationary was still in auto pilot and could not move because monorail coral was still too close ahead on the tracks, resulting in the monorail that was placed in manual drive slamming into the stationary one. (i'm all confused on the colors between pink and purple at this point). but the news guy did say that this was still all speculation.
 
i have asked the driver this question before. he told me if someone were to fall asleep at the head the accelator is spring loaded. if a train were to get too close to another one the spring would go up and automatically stop the train from moving any more.

and Jenny most likely Disney wont release anything about the cause until the FULL investigation is complete. which could take a few days. im just as eager as you are on knowing what happend.

That is true. Like Travis said, MaPo is a system that prevents trains from colliding. If they get too close (150-200 ft) to each other, it will automatically stop. If this happens 3 times to a driver, he/she will be removed from that position.
 
Just read on TPAS that noone's allowed in the front car ever again :(
 





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