Monkeypox

This is what I'm seeing so far in the data. But it's only a matter of time before this changes. Remember AIDS.

This is a good watch on HBO:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106273/
Or read the book. Check your public library for it in hardcopy or ebook if you'd rather not spend to purchase.
https://www.amazon.com/Band-Played-Politics-Epidemic-20th-Anniversary/dp/0312374631

The author, journalist Randy Shilts, would himself die of AIDS in 1994, though he was unaware of his positive diagnosis while working on the book (he had been tested, but asked his doctor to withhold the results until he finished the book.) One of the things that is helpful about reading the book, particularly the newer editions, is that they have forewords that explain the way the book was received; it was very controversial when it was published in 1985.
 
Or read the book. Check your public library for it in hardcopy or ebook if you'd rather not spend to purchase.
https://www.amazon.com/Band-Played-Politics-Epidemic-20th-Anniversary/dp/0312374631

The author, journalist Randy Shilts, would himself die of AIDS in 1994, though he was unaware of his positive diagnosis while working on the book (he had been tested, but asked his doctor to withhold the results until he finished the book.) One of the things that is helpful about reading the book, particularly the newer editions, is that they have forewords that explain the way the book was received; it was very controversial when it was published in 1985.
The same goes for the Midnight Caller episode about a guy intentionally infecting people with the AIDS virus. Show has never been released on DVD or on a streaming service. But you can find some decent VHS quality eps on YouTube.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_It_Happened

I recently watched this episode, and I don't get the outrage.

There was also a 21 Jump Street episode as well:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0501953/

I miss the 80s.
 
ABC news was saying it is seems to be affecting the LGBTQ community the most at the moment. :confused3
Yeah, I was talking about this with my daughter, who is a nurse. She says Monkeypox is classified as an STD, and while it carries some STD characteristics and can spread like wildfire through sexual contact ... it can be spread other ways too.

She says she attended a training in which they saw pictures of Monkey Pox. She said they saw a picture of a guy's *****, and she could not understand why it wasn't literally falling off. She said it is horrible looking.
Dh and I were born in '68.

We did not receive the smallpox vaccine.
I'm only two years older, and I was vaxxed for smallpox.
I saw this and am utterly astonished people are "frolicking" without using protection, we are 40 years and millions in investment dollars out from HIV so how is this even still a thing? I'm out of patience
Yeah, it's kinda like cigarettes or texting while driving -- it's like willful ignorance. Every one of us KNOWS better, yet some people continue to do these things.
Right now there are 6600 cases in the US, 98% of the cases are gay men.
I did not know it was THAT one-sided.
 
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Yeah, I was talking about this with my daughter, who is a nurse. She says Monkeypox is classified as an STD, and while it carries some STD characteristics and can spread like wildfire through sexual contact ... it can be spread other ways too.

No it isn’t - at least not by the WHO or the CDC. At least, not yet. Experts are looking to see if there is a new mode of transmission (i.e. if there is now a variant that is an STI) but currently, it is not currently so classified.

If you use the “you can get it while having sex” than almost every contagious disease (including COVID-19, colds, flu, measles) would be considered STIs. They are not.
 

I don't know how old you are, but this isn't about political correctness so much as it's about fear of violence. This is because of what happened when people panicked in the 1980s over AIDS, or as it was often referred to at the time, "the Gay Plague." I was in college then, and it was awful; ignorant people would attack people (and families) for being gay &/or for having some evidence of the presence of the disease. Rocks got thrown, even Molotov cocktails a few times. Adults lost jobs, children were hounded out of schools, families were even driven to leave their homes.

Authorities are hesitant to make widespread announcements that the male gay population are at primary risk because they are afraid that lunatics will start attacking gay men over this and that they will be ostracized from society again. It is very unfortunate that that fear of harm is having the effect of not getting the most warnings clearly to the people most at risk, but I understand the official reasoning. Unfortunately, we are now past the point where discretion might help in any way. It's time to start blasting the message out in the gay press, just like then. (The disease that we eventually came to know as AIDS first appeared in the gay community in 1981, but it wasn't until 1986 (in the UK) that government poster campaigns aimed specifically at educating the gay community were done; it took another 3 years before the same kinds of campaigns appeared in the US.)

Like Kaposi's Sarcoma (a skin cancer that often came along with AIDS) Monkeypox is very visible, and when people think they see it they can do nasty things. A couple of weeks ago a woman riding the subway in NYC had a photo taken of her and posted on TikTok speculating that she was out in public with monkeypox, and it circulated around the web so fast that a family member called her about it within minutes. As it happens, she has a skin disease that is not contagious, but that photo will live forever now, and her name is now linked to it, so now she's internet-famous (and not in a good way) for the way that her skin looks.

Conversely, another "viral" photo incident in Spain went another way: this time the photo was taken by a physician who knew it was monkeypox, but when he tried to talk to the man in the photo and to other people who had been in the crowded car about understanding their risk of contagion, he was met with assurances that it would be OK because the disease only affected gays; the government had said so. (Not true, of course; they misunderstood the message.)

See what I mean? The task of public messaging is a minefield no matter how careful one is, and people will react to the message in a lot of unfortunate and unexpected ways. Sure, some people will try to use that for political gain, but that's not the most immediate danger. AIDS killed people wholesale, and Monkeypox isn't as dangerous, but it does often leave behind disfiguring scars, so the fear level is high.
The media’s job is to report the facts not what they think the public can handle. By withholding important information, they create fear and in some cases cause more danger since people at most risk could be taking precautions if they had the truth.
 
The media’s job is to report the facts not what they think the public can handle. By withholding important information, they create fear and in some cases cause more danger since people at most risk could be taking precautions if they had the truth.
I wasn't speaking of the media, per se; but public information sources, such as the WHO, CDC and state/local health departments. They are the ones who have a duty to carefully balance disease control with public safety interests.

When it comes to the commercial media, I'd lay the blame more on money than politics. They are extremely sensitive to the potential of monies lost because of audience outrage.
 
The media’s job is to report the facts not what they think the public can handle. By withholding important information, they create fear and in some cases cause more danger since people at most risk could be taking precautions if they had the truth.
I wasn't speaking of the media, per se; but public information sources, such as the WHO, CDC and state/local health departments. They are the ones who have a duty to carefully balance disease control with public safety interests.

When it comes to the commercial media, I'd lay the blame more on money than politics. They are extremely sensitive to the potential of monies lost because of audience outrage.
By not being completely honest, they also cause trust in public health agencies to erode.
 
Yep. Apparently it can also linger on fabrics for quite a while.
I have a couple of trips planned in the coming months and this is the part that scares me the most. How do I know the bedding was really changed? Should we not sit on the couch in the room, etc?
 
I have a couple of trips planned in the coming months and this is the part that scares me the most. How do I know the bedding was really changed? Should we not sit on the couch in the room, etc?
Or feature pillows and throws that never get wash yuk....
I think though, that as many other viruses it can only live a very short time on fabrics and surfaces, if any at all ...
 
In one study, investigators found a live virus 15 days after a patient’s home was left unoccupied.
Studies show that other closely related orthopoxviruses can survive in an environment similar to a household, for weeks or months.

In fact, the sad news of 2 young children being the first in the US to get MPox,
with at least one of them living in a gay male household,
points directly to this being how they got the disease.

And now there has been the first reported case of human to dog transmission.
 


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