MKOATEYW
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I think we as a society, Disney, and the other amusment park companies need to take a moment and really truely think, is bigger, faster, more, higher, scarier in a attraction really the best thing? The constant pressure "We" put on Immaginears and or other designers to constanly push the envelope and build up on the trill factor is enormious.
Well now we have a ride that is making people sick. Stop for a second and think about it, The Disney Co. a name that is supposed to stand for wholesomeness and family fun has a ride with Barg bags on it. What would Walt say?
Now not to say that the ride is not beautyfully Immagineared, it is. I can't think of a more completely imersive experance. You really do feel like you are going to space in your tiny capsul and feel the G's etc... Reportedly even former astonauts that have ridden it think so to. But not everyone has the training and phyiscal condition to be an astonaut and it is making those people sick, some of them very sick.
Yes, the german lady and the little boys both had health problems that were time bombs waiting for something to happen. Yes, it was their health problem that was fatal. But who knows how long they would have lived they had not ridden M:S. I understand it, it was not the ride itself that killed them it was their health issue, but the ride was still was the catilist that triggered their health issues fatal reaction. And I know that they still would have had a fatal reaction the any time they were in a high stress situation but I still believe they could have potentionaly had longer lives if they had not ridden M:S.
Don't get me wrong I agree the lady was stupid for riding when she knew she had high blood pressure there are clearly signs that say don't ride if you have ..... , And yes the Mom was negligent for taking her way to young for a thrill ride son on, surely if she knew of his condition she would not have brought him on the ride. But how many of us really pay attention to these signs? On M:S it even seems to be part of the theming and build up of the ride. You can't see the motion of the ride so you don't know what to expect in advance, also think of how many other attractions things start out one way then things go "amuck" as part of the story line. Also, although not people here on the DIS, but many clueless people go to Disney that have not done any reasearch before their trip and would expect that Disney would never have a ride that would make you truely ill. Really consider for a moment that there is a warning sign on Goofy's Barnstormer for Motion sickness & Expectant Mothers etc... also clearly these are not the same caliber of rides but they have the similar warnings! I really think "we" need to come up with some new kind of thrill rating system to help people really understand what they are getting into on each ride.
Another point other people injured at disney have clearly been accidents, Those rides were malfuntions M:S is operating Normaly when people are getting sick. For instance people have been compairing to to what happened on Big Thunder, Cali Screaming, The Columbia, etc , those were clearly accidents Some of them Horrible but clearly accidents. Those rides are not opperating as they were supposed to what they did, Train cars are not supposed to crush someone, car are not supposed to crash into the back of a car still stiting in the station, davits are not supposed to be yanked loose from the dock and hit someone.
Also the the number of people sick is not very clear. It is "the number of people who requested medical attention {from disney} after riding the attraction." It is not the number of people go got sick from riding it. I rode it during previews, I am healthy and do not have any health problems, I don't normaly get motion sick, unfortunealy I am one of the people who got sick, (nasous, vomiting, vertigo, migrane not very fun at all). I tried to tuff it out but was to ill to do anything all that day and all of the next also, but because I didn't take that ambulance ride and expensive visit to Celebration Hospital, I and people like me, are not included in that number. I had known how badly off I was and how bad it could potentaly be, believe me I would have gone to the ER.
In all honestly I have to admit I found immaginearing of the ride to be really truly increadable, (execpt the sick part) there is nothing else like it anywhere. The Disney nut in me would not be happy if I had never tried it. But I will NEVER EVER go on it again. Yes many people can ride it with no problems, great for them. I am just not so sure it belongs in its current form in the One Happly Place for Everyone. I am not saying yank it down tommorrow, I just think it needs a little rethinking. Maybe a place to see what really happens to you and what peoples reactions to it before ride, I dont know? Surly the great minds that are in Immaginearing can come up with something that will keep people like me from getting on it and getting sick without dumming it down so badly that it is not enjoyable ride anymore.
Well now we have a ride that is making people sick. Stop for a second and think about it, The Disney Co. a name that is supposed to stand for wholesomeness and family fun has a ride with Barg bags on it. What would Walt say?
Now not to say that the ride is not beautyfully Immagineared, it is. I can't think of a more completely imersive experance. You really do feel like you are going to space in your tiny capsul and feel the G's etc... Reportedly even former astonauts that have ridden it think so to. But not everyone has the training and phyiscal condition to be an astonaut and it is making those people sick, some of them very sick.
Yes, the german lady and the little boys both had health problems that were time bombs waiting for something to happen. Yes, it was their health problem that was fatal. But who knows how long they would have lived they had not ridden M:S. I understand it, it was not the ride itself that killed them it was their health issue, but the ride was still was the catilist that triggered their health issues fatal reaction. And I know that they still would have had a fatal reaction the any time they were in a high stress situation but I still believe they could have potentionaly had longer lives if they had not ridden M:S.
Don't get me wrong I agree the lady was stupid for riding when she knew she had high blood pressure there are clearly signs that say don't ride if you have ..... , And yes the Mom was negligent for taking her way to young for a thrill ride son on, surely if she knew of his condition she would not have brought him on the ride. But how many of us really pay attention to these signs? On M:S it even seems to be part of the theming and build up of the ride. You can't see the motion of the ride so you don't know what to expect in advance, also think of how many other attractions things start out one way then things go "amuck" as part of the story line. Also, although not people here on the DIS, but many clueless people go to Disney that have not done any reasearch before their trip and would expect that Disney would never have a ride that would make you truely ill. Really consider for a moment that there is a warning sign on Goofy's Barnstormer for Motion sickness & Expectant Mothers etc... also clearly these are not the same caliber of rides but they have the similar warnings! I really think "we" need to come up with some new kind of thrill rating system to help people really understand what they are getting into on each ride.
Another point other people injured at disney have clearly been accidents, Those rides were malfuntions M:S is operating Normaly when people are getting sick. For instance people have been compairing to to what happened on Big Thunder, Cali Screaming, The Columbia, etc , those were clearly accidents Some of them Horrible but clearly accidents. Those rides are not opperating as they were supposed to what they did, Train cars are not supposed to crush someone, car are not supposed to crash into the back of a car still stiting in the station, davits are not supposed to be yanked loose from the dock and hit someone.
Also the the number of people sick is not very clear. It is "the number of people who requested medical attention {from disney} after riding the attraction." It is not the number of people go got sick from riding it. I rode it during previews, I am healthy and do not have any health problems, I don't normaly get motion sick, unfortunealy I am one of the people who got sick, (nasous, vomiting, vertigo, migrane not very fun at all). I tried to tuff it out but was to ill to do anything all that day and all of the next also, but because I didn't take that ambulance ride and expensive visit to Celebration Hospital, I and people like me, are not included in that number. I had known how badly off I was and how bad it could potentaly be, believe me I would have gone to the ER.
In all honestly I have to admit I found immaginearing of the ride to be really truly increadable, (execpt the sick part) there is nothing else like it anywhere. The Disney nut in me would not be happy if I had never tried it. But I will NEVER EVER go on it again. Yes many people can ride it with no problems, great for them. I am just not so sure it belongs in its current form in the One Happly Place for Everyone. I am not saying yank it down tommorrow, I just think it needs a little rethinking. Maybe a place to see what really happens to you and what peoples reactions to it before ride, I dont know? Surly the great minds that are in Immaginearing can come up with something that will keep people like me from getting on it and getting sick without dumming it down so badly that it is not enjoyable ride anymore.
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