Miserable Stay at Wilderness Lodge!

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vhoffman

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We just came back yesterday from our first Christmas trip to Disney. I picked the WL to stay mainly due to the overwhelming positive comments about it on this board. Well, our stay there was miserable, and I'd like to add my comments about that place.

First, the decorations are not that great. They are very nice, but nothing to plan a trip around. If you're staying there, fine, but I would not schedule a seperate trip over there just to see the decorations, like so many have suggested. My disappointment with WL started when we entered. I was hyping my kids up about how wonderful the decorations were. My dd said, just before we entered, "sometimes people lie". Well, I would call it more of an exageration. I mean, nice, but nothing to go out of your way for.

Check in took so long my kids fell asleep in the little tv viewing area. We were the only ones in line! I thought at one point the CM at the desk was some sort of robot and needed her batteries replaced! She just stood there staring at her computer screen without so much as a comment for minutes at a time. I realize Disney's computer system leaves much to be desired and I'm sometimes stuck waiting an excessive amount of time when trying to use it, but you'd think the system would work better at such a time critical point. We too so darned long to get checked in we missed our PS at Chef Mickeys. We just went later and got seated, but we didn't like starting out with so much stress. And never an apology from the cm for the excessive wait. I really think for such an in convenience we should have gotten something, such as coupons for free breakfast, or at least an apology. Instead, she acted like we came to spend our entire vacation standing at the desk! After we finally had our room assignment and keys, she stood there talking on and on about how to use the keys! Its printed on the envelope! I finally snatched the keys from her and said "I want to get out of here before the sun goes down". Some way to start our stay!!!

On to the room. It was so small it was a joke. They say the rooms are about 340 sq ft. Baloney! There was barely enough room for two queen beds with about a foot of space between the beds and the wall and about 18 inches between the beds. You could sit on the end of the bed and touch the tv amoire. There were three little drawers in the tv amoire, and a small chest of drawers near the closet area. The closet itselt was tiny. That was all the storage for a family of four.

However, the real misery was the location. We were located in the main building, on the sixth floor (I forget the room number, think it was 6082). It looked directly over the lobby below. There's a restaurant on the main floor, Whispering Canyon. That was the most noisy place I've ever heard in my life! There was constant screaming, hollering.clanging, etc. from about 8 am 'till 11 pm. The noise carried right up to the rooms. Its incredible, but we were awakened out of a sound sleep from all that noise on the sixth floor with the door shut. I suppose the rooms located in the buildings away from the lobby are quieter. We had a Woods view, for which we paid extra. We would have been better off with the standard view. The only view we had was of the parking lot and part of the roof below. We also heard buses and beeping from vehicles all night long. We asked to be moved, but were told the hotel was sold out. Our stay was further ruined by housekeeping, who pounded on the door at 8 am, despite the DND sign. I guess they thought that didn't apply to them. Since most of our park activities were at night this time (MVMCP, Osbourne Lights, Candlelight Processional), we did not want to get up at the crack of dawn and hit the parks and be dragging when the main events occured. We wanted to sleep in to about 9-10 am. However, between the hollering from that restaurant and the housekeeping pounding on the door every 20 minutes, we couldn't get any sleep. I asked Housekeeping to please come back later that afternoon, when the DND sign was off. As they walked away, I heard one say to the other "Does she think we have all day?" I had envelopes printed out to leave a tip for Mousekeeping. Instead, the last day, I left a note instead, apologizing to the Mousekeeping staff for not getting out of my room at their convenience. I promised to be a good girl and never come back to their hotel and bother them in such a manner again!
If they're so insistent on making up the rooms at 8 am, why did we have to wait over an hour for our room when we checked in at 4:30 pm? Go figure!

Last but not least, the transportation form this place sucks! Everywhere we went it was at least an hour or more and two busses or bus/boat. We ended up taking taxis (and paying for them) just to get somewhere and not spend our entire trip pi$$ed off in the hotel or riding around and around trying to get somewhere. We only had three days and wanted to make the most of it. I had originally planned to stay at Grand Floridian and I'm sorry now we didn't. We stopped by there to check out the decorations and were quite impressed. Yes, the GF is more expensive, and you do get what you pay for!

We enjoyed our trip once we were out of the hotel. We are already planning our next year's Christmas trip there. Hopefully it will become a family tradition. However, our schedules only permit us about four nights for the Christmas trip. For such a limited amount of time, I'm planning a hotel that is more conveniently located and more "guest friendly". In my opinion, the WL exists for the enjoyment of the customers of that darned restaurant and the convenience of the housekeeping. The paying guests are just a nuisance for the hotel!!!!
 
Wow. Sorry you didn't like anything at all about the WL, but that was probably the grumpiest post I've ever read here! :earseek:
 
vhoffman said:
However, the real misery was the location. We were located in the main building, on the sixth floor (I forget the room number, think it was 6082).

I'm sorry the hotel was not your cup of tea...however...your room could not have been 6082 because I was in that room on Tuesday night (the 7th) and it was a handicapped-accessible, King bed room...

I didn't hear any of the noise that you heard while in my room but during the day the lobby is quite loud...

Again, sorry to hear you were disappointed. Different strokes for different folks, I guess...

:D
 
Sorry you didn't enjoy your stay at WL. Just remember, though, things like your check-in experience can happen anywhere, as lately I've noticed check-in at all the resorts to take longer than it used to.
 

I have read quite a few posts on here complaining about houskeeping waking people up. I too would be quite grumpy if someone kept pounding on my door while I was trying to sleep! :mad: I am not saying it is in any way your fault, but maybe you should have gone down to the front desk and let them know how, ahem, "unhappy" you were at being awakened. Trust me, if this had happened to me, they would have not wanted to see me coming! pirate:
 
We were awakened by housekeeping too when we were at the Poly in March. It was our only day to sleep in of the whole trip and we also had our DND sign out. DH went to the door and waved the sign at them and said, in a strained whisper, "What do you think this means?!?" Thankfully our kids did not wake up and housekeeping did not come back.
 
I can understand a few things not working out and being upset about it. However, to write off every aspect of a particular lodging is unusual.

I guess I'm one of those lairs because I have loved the WL and wrote about it often. Sorry, if my lying caused you to consider the WL. Please forgive me.
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We didn't like WL either. We stayed there last year. I'll have to say we think the resort is beautiful, and perhaps the best themed. But, again, we didn't like it and wouldn't return unless it was the only thing we could afford. They often offer great rates as low as $139 or so. Anyway, what didn't we like? I totally agree with you on the transportation. We had a car, so we didn't have to pay for a taxi, but I can see where you got frustrated and just forked over the money for one. The boat transportation was so sloooooow. Our check-in wasn't slow, but the CM never once looked up at me until it was time to take my credit card. It was the most anti-climatic, un-Disney check-in we've ever had. Oh, and when we drove up to check-in, the valets just stood there...nobody opened our door and offered to take our bags. We've stayed at other deluxes, YC, BC, Poly, CR, and GF. At all of those, the service was much much better. I also agree with you on the rooms, they are small and DARK. Pool is small. So, I feel your pain. At least now you know it's not your cup of tee. We did like the geyser, and the trail to Fort Wilderness.

About the decorations. We were there for Thanksgiving weekend and I thought their decorations were wonderful. Again, although we weren't happy staying there, we think this is a gorgeous resort. We took the sleigh ride that leaves from out in front of the resort and travels through the woods towards Fort Wilderness. Very nice touch. Nothing to do with WL though.

Just know - WL is probably the most popular resort on these boards so you may get flamed. But, know that you're not alone because we were very disappointed as well. It takes all kinds. I'm glad we don't all like the same resort. If so, I couldn't get a room at the Poly, or YC/BC or the S/D. My faves.

PamNC
 
I am really sorry you had such a tough time! Boy, some trips work out, and some don't. I remember reading some of your posts before your trip, and I was really hoping that all went well. Sounded like you could use it.

We have had trips where the angels seemed to be guiding our every move, and some that seemed controlled by the other side!

I hope you are feeling better, and that the next trip is magical.
 
Ok I am going to agree with you on some of your post. We had one of the longest checkins ever at the WL this trip, last trip and one trip before. I think they just move in very slow motion there. It bothered me the most the first trip as I had a sick child and this trip. The last trip I could have cared less really. We too paid for a woods view and received 6043 and 6041 I believe. They were facing the lobby/restaurant right behind a staircase. It was veryyyyyyyy loud. Outside it was facing the parking lot overlooking the area that is luggage storage. Not what I would call woodsview at all. We only stayed there one night and transfered over the to villas. My family member stayed there 3 nights. We immediately went back down to the frontdesk and again it took forever. We were told we could move immediately to a better view but we already had our suitcases in there along with a refrigerator stocked with our food. The CM assured us he would put a hold on a better room and that we were to come down to the front desk in the am to get that room. Well wouldn't you know when we came down in the am, by 9:00 am, there was no hold on any room and she was told the hotel was sold out. So much for Jason the CM keeping his word! We didn't yell or make a scene but I was disappointed for my family member. Again it too FOREVER at the desk AGAIN. I again had to checkin as we were in a one bedroom and they were attaching the studio to it after 2 nights so it would become a 2 br. I waited again FOREVER and the CM said "sorry your room is not ready so here is the card and you can call later". I was assured we wouldn't have to move. I asked if the room number was _____ and he said yes. I stated we were already in that room so we didn't have to move. How could he be getting this wrong? Another mistake, another word not said. It took forever and all they had to do was cut new keycards and swipe my visa again. What was the big problem? We called to see if the studio portion was done and they said no. We checked with the housekeeper and she said it had been done for hours. We moved right in without checking again. Again lack of communication. Another night I went to apply my disney reward dollars to my account. They said everything was all taken care of and that my visa was reapplied to the account. Well wouldn't you know it as soon as I got back to the villas there was a phone call that I had to come back down to the desk and give them my visa again. I did it but wasn't happy. They took a long time there and then messed it up. Again I said nothing. I also asked for no housekeeping as we had stripped the sheets and changed out the towels ourselves. Usually when they come in I have everything put away. Well won't you know that they came in and our stuff was all laying out. Nothing was touched, but that wasn't the point. One day we were waiting for the Epcot bus for what started to seem like a long time. The people right next to us said they had been waiting a long time as well. I called on my cell phone inside to the front desk and they transferred me to the transportation department. They said to take the next bus that was dispatched to the Ticket and Transportation Center and then to transfer to the monorail so that could be taken to Epcot. Were they kidding? There were IRRITATE people there and the lady on the other end could hear them. I don't blame them. I asked to be put through to a supervisor and then suddenly a bus appeared. The wait for this bus in all was 60 minutes! That is totally unacceptable. So don't flame the poster too much unless you walked in the poster's shoes. Alot of that post I lived myself, I just chose not to post about it until this poster got flamed and I felt the need to back her up.

Once we got to the villas it was much more relaxed and quiet. Had we been forced to stay in that other room I would have been less than happy. My other family member was placed in a room that was filthy and infested with mosquitoes. You should have seen all the bites on her legs that happened during her sleep. She complained and they came up with a new room, Courtyard view, at no extra cost.

I do have to say I thought the decorations were very pretty so that I will disagree with from the original poster. To each their own though. Have a nice day. :flower1:
 
To dPIc,

I really don't think you're lying about your experiences at WL. Just your opinions, which I'm sure are based on wonderful experiences. We just had the opposite experience there.

I realize that WL is very popular and expect to get some flames. That doesn't bother me a bit. I would just like to give another point of view for others trying to decide on a hotel. And, also, I do need to vent a little.

Rude to the cm at front desk? After that frustrating experience, she was lucky I wasn't screaming at her! After all, there's only so much a person can take. IMO, she deserved worse from me. I realize its not her fault if the computer system is slow, but she could have at least acknowledged the excessive wait with a simple comment to the effect of sorry its taking so long. Our system is very slow today. Instead she just expected us to put up with whatever. The last straw was when she expected us to listen to a 10 minute lecture about how to use the room key. Apparently she was totally obvilious to the situation and how very frustrated we were at that point. She might be stuck at the desk for her entire shift, but we weren't.

I've read many times in reviews of various hotels comments about the check in. I never paid much attention to that, thinking its a trivial matter. That's until I had the experience I did at WL. By the time we got checked in, half of what we had planned for that time was blown and the rest was stressed due to the wasted time. I never really thought of the concierege for that benefit, but I'll seriously consider it in the future. Again, concierege seemed an unecessary expense to me, but I'm beginning to see its value. You're buying time and convenience.

We loved our stay outside od the hotel and and plan to make a Christmas trip a family tradition. If we start saving right now, maybe we can afford the concierege at the GF. It would be worth it. Thanks for the suggestion. Now if I can just figure out how to keep housekeeping from pounding on my door at 8 am!
 
Sorry you didnt enjoy your trip to the WL.

On Christmas decorations at the WL. I do think that the Christmas decorations are great at the WL. But we all have different tastes. For myself and the many others who have talked about them on these boards we would have a different view on them than you.

In my several stays at the WL one time I had a room very similar to the room you had. Like yours it was right in the main building and and overlooking the lobby. We loved it. The noise did not get into our room or if it did we didnt notice it but instead enjoyed that part of the atmosphere. However, I do recall others on these boards feeling like you and would rather not have had that aspect of the atmosphere and thought it was too noisy. Again to each his or her own.

On transportation - Again I have stayed at the lodge on several occasions. I have never had waiting times as long as you indicated.

On the size of the room the WL rooms are the industry standard size. I believe all modern resort rooms (unless dexlux size) to be that size and at WDW that is the case for all delux resorts except for the Contemporary and the Poly which were built earlier when the industry standards for rooms were larger. But unless you get a delux room the size of the room at the WL is the same as the GF, BC, YC, BW and AK. If I am incorrect on that perhaps someone can correct me but I beleive that to be the case.
 
Well, I can't say I'm glad to see that others had similar frustrations as I did, but it makes me feel better in a way that I'm not the only one. After our first experience with the front desk, we didn't do anything that would involve them. That included charging to our room. We used our AmEX everywhere instead. We were afraid that if charges were misapplied to our bill we would be standing there arguing the last day and perhaps miss our plane!

One night I called housekeeping and asked for late room cleaning. The lady that answered said sure, no problem. Apparently she doesn't understand English (she had some sort of accent). About 10 minutes later I got a call from someone at front desk, telling me he couldn't honor our request for late check out. I explained we weren't going anywhere for the next two days, just wanted late housekeeping. I really worried then that it would get goofed up somehow and we would be checked out of our room early. We considered calling the manager to clarify the situation, but thought better of it. We felt any communication (?) with management was just another chance to screw things up. Well, the good news is they didn't check us out early, but they still came at 8 am to make up the room, despite the DND sign. Our trip would have been better if we could have just gotten some sleep, but with the noise and housekeeping we averaged about 5 hours sleep per night. Miserable hotel, great experiences in the parks!
 
Well, thanks for the information that GF rooms are about the same size as the WL. That's good to know. Perhaps next time we'll stay at the Polynesian. We stayed there the first time and had a truly magical experience. I just didn't feel it was Christmasy enough for this trip. But that place suited us so well perhaps we'll try it next time. Thanks for all the tips, folks. It helps to analyze what "went wrong" for next time.
 
On transportation, others have also complained about the transportation at the lodge. One reason for your experience may, may be the time of year it is. Personally we always have a car and take a car often so I cant say that I am a good source on that aspect. Many other resorts often get slammed on transportation like the AKL and the values. Its no wonder why the monorail resorts are the most costly, they also have the best transportation system.
 
vhoffman said:
Rude to the cm at front desk? After that frustrating experience, she was lucky I wasn't screaming at her! After all, there's only so much a person can take. IMO, she deserved worse from me. I realize its not her fault if the computer system is slow, but she could have at least acknowledged the excessive wait with a simple comment to the effect of sorry its taking so long. Our system is very slow today. Instead she just expected us to put up with whatever. The last straw was when she expected us to listen to a 10 minute lecture about how to use the room key.

She's probably required to show people how to use the room key. Maybe they get lots of questions about it.

I just don't think there's any reason to be rude to a castmember who wasn't rude to you first. :rolleyes:
 
According to the the Unofficial Guide, GF rooms are 440 square feet and WL room are 340 square feet. Sorry you had the problems you did - so frustrating! Save up for GF CL - we just returned and it was FABULOUS!
 
vhoffman said:
To dPIc,

Rude to the cm at front desk? After that frustrating experience, she was lucky I wasn't screaming at her! After all, there's only so much a person can take. IMO, she deserved worse from me. I realize its not her fault if the computer system is slow, but she could have at least acknowledged the excessive wait with a simple comment to the effect of sorry its taking so long. Our system is very slow today. Instead she just expected us to put up with whatever. The last straw was when she expected us to listen to a 10 minute lecture about how to use the room key. Apparently she was totally obvilious to the situation and how very frustrated we were at that point. She might be stuck at the desk for her entire shift, but we weren't.

So just how long did check in take you? From the time you entered the line until the time you grabbed your keys from the CM's hand and walked off?
 
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